Open Invitation for a race
10-06-2001, 01:10 PM
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Open Invitation for a race
OK, the last racing day of the year here in Colorado is this Weds (Oct. 10th). I'll be up there, along with several friends. (one a maxima owner)
If ANY maxs would like to come up and try to post a better 1/4 mile time than me PLEASE do! I'd like to see some other cars/new people.
And hopefully, we could stop some of the bickering. You Max guys love your cars, we love our GP's. Its like arguing religion, no one is going to convert the other.
Secondly, several of the local Max guys are getting blowers, and I invite them up as well. (If they get them finished in time) If you aren't able to make, then maybe we can work something out later, at a different location around Denver.
FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
Murdock
If ANY maxs would like to come up and try to post a better 1/4 mile time than me PLEASE do! I'd like to see some other cars/new people.
And hopefully, we could stop some of the bickering. You Max guys love your cars, we love our GP's. Its like arguing religion, no one is going to convert the other.
Secondly, several of the local Max guys are getting blowers, and I invite them up as well. (If they get them finished in time) If you aren't able to make, then maybe we can work something out later, at a different location around Denver.
FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
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10-06-2001, 01:25 PM
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Re: Open Invitation for a race
Originally posted by Generic
FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
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FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
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low 17's?
maybe its a maxima body with a GP engine in it
either that is 1 slowwwww track or something fishy is up... never even heard a VG run in the 17s...
10-06-2001, 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by psing23
low 17's?
maybe its a maxima body with a GP engine in it
either that is 1 slowwwww track or something fishy is up... never even heard a VG run in the 17s...
low 17's?
maybe its a maxima body with a GP engine in it
either that is 1 slowwwww track or something fishy is up... never even heard a VG run in the 17s...
2nd, he said 2000 and 2001 Maximas, the VG engine was used in 3rd gen's, not the 5th gen. 5th gen has VQ30DE-k.
10-06-2001, 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
at that altitude, a NA car has no chance against a car that has forced induction....
at that altitude, a NA car has no chance against a car that has forced induction....
FYI Altitude affects Supercharged cars in the same way as NA cars. But, lets not get into that discussion.
Now, any takers?
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10-06-2001, 04:16 PM
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Re: Open Invitation for a race
Originally posted by Generic
FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
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FYI I've seen two Max's run at Bandimere...one is a '00 Auto, and runs low 17's consitant. The other was a 2001 (auto/5 spd, don't know) he also ran low 17's.
Murdock
Btw just in case you didn't realize making BS comments like that is trolling!
10-06-2001, 05:01 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Open Invitation for a race
Originally posted by global_threat
Your post is very confusing. What is a GP engine? Assuming you mean GTP? If that engine was in our car, with a 5-speed, it would haul ***.
2nd, he said 2000 and 2001 Maximas, the VG engine was used in 3rd gen's, not the 5th gen. 5th gen has VQ30DE-k.
Your post is very confusing. What is a GP engine? Assuming you mean GTP? If that engine was in our car, with a 5-speed, it would haul ***.
2nd, he said 2000 and 2001 Maximas, the VG engine was used in 3rd gen's, not the 5th gen. 5th gen has VQ30DE-k.
ok GP engine means Grand Prix and i was talking about either the GT or SE model...
next i was saying i never saw a maxima in the 17s not even a VG because the VG is the 160hp... obviously i know which gen its from.. and the 3rd gen is supposed to be the slowest of us from the modern gens... thats where i got the VG from... basically i was saying that i dont think there are any maximas in the 17s
10-06-2001, 06:34 PM
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Re: Re: Open Invitation for a race
Originally posted by PhatGuy
Btw just in case you didn't realize making BS comments like that is trolling!
Btw just in case you didn't realize making BS comments like that is trolling!
Go check in the West Coast forum and ask the Denver guys what they run.
Don't call BS unless you know, which you do not.
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10-06-2001, 06:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Open Invitation for a race
Either way I really don't care that much. I feel sorry for any Max of any year running 17's.
Based on you location the NA max's should race GT's and the GTP should be racing SC Max. Otherwise a lower altitude location for your "Open Invitation" would be more appropriate don't you think?
I know for a fact that a GTP can't even come close to me at 100mph+
Thanks for coming out!
Based on you location the NA max's should race GT's and the GTP should be racing SC Max. Otherwise a lower altitude location for your "Open Invitation" would be more appropriate don't you think?
I know for a fact that a GTP can't even come close to me at 100mph+
Thanks for coming out!
Originally posted by Generic
Would you like me to get some of YOUR member, and some of the other import guys to back that up? That isn't a load of BS, its a straight fact.
Go check in the West Coast forum and ask the Denver guys what they run.
Don't call BS unless you know, which you do not.
Murdock
Would you like me to get some of YOUR member, and some of the other import guys to back that up? That isn't a load of BS, its a straight fact.
Go check in the West Coast forum and ask the Denver guys what they run.
Don't call BS unless you know, which you do not.
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10-06-2001, 08:07 PM
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Again, let me restate:
"Altitude has the same affect on an SC engine as a NA engine"
Also, in my invitation I didn't say it had to be NA, in fact I would prefer it be an SC Max, because then it would be close.
To give you and idea of times at this altitude:
Stock GTP 16 flat
The lowest time for a Max I've seen, low 17's
Stock LS1 (the TA and camaro) mid-high 14's
Brand new vetts-mid-14's
Integra Type R high 15's
Several of the local Max guys are getting blowers, and I am more than happy to race them.
As for your 100+ comment:
1. Who races from 100 on?
2. Where in the hell would you do this? I personally don't feel that comfortable going much over 100 on any road around here
3. Don't doubt our cars so much over 100, they still go, trust me.
We could always start a race from a stop, and see when you pass me.
Murdock
"Altitude has the same affect on an SC engine as a NA engine"
Also, in my invitation I didn't say it had to be NA, in fact I would prefer it be an SC Max, because then it would be close.
To give you and idea of times at this altitude:
Stock GTP 16 flat
The lowest time for a Max I've seen, low 17's
Stock LS1 (the TA and camaro) mid-high 14's
Brand new vetts-mid-14's
Integra Type R high 15's
Several of the local Max guys are getting blowers, and I am more than happy to race them.
As for your 100+ comment:
1. Who races from 100 on?
2. Where in the hell would you do this? I personally don't feel that comfortable going much over 100 on any road around here
3. Don't doubt our cars so much over 100, they still go, trust me.
We could always start a race from a stop, and see when you pass me.
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10-06-2001, 08:08 PM
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Also, I want you all to know, I'm not trying to troll, or start crap. I have a friend with a max, and lots of friends with imports. I respect anything that has some speed to it. I'm just trying to start a friendly race. If a local person steps up, does it, and beats me, I'll come back and post it for them. I lose, i lose, they had a faster car, simple as that. Personally though, I think those chances are slim.
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10-06-2001, 08:37 PM
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OK, I just searched through 13 pages of posts on the 4th gen forum about 1/4 mile times.
Best is a 13.4 out of a SC'd intercooled max, which is a very good time.
There where 3 others in the 13's, the rest in the 14's +
Go check out:
http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp?txtfunc=2
Thats the GTP top 25, without NOS.
Also, a page like that would be very handy for you all, so you can see who's on top, and what they've done.
Murdock
Best is a 13.4 out of a SC'd intercooled max, which is a very good time.
There where 3 others in the 13's, the rest in the 14's +
Go check out:
http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp?txtfunc=2
Thats the GTP top 25, without NOS.
Also, a page like that would be very handy for you all, so you can see who's on top, and what they've done.
Murdock
10-06-2001, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Generic
OK, I just searched through 13 pages of posts on the 4th gen forum about 1/4 mile times.
Best is a 13.4 out of a SC'd intercooled max, which is a very good time.
There where 3 others in the 13's, the rest in the 14's +
Go check out:
http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp?txtfunc=2
Thats the GTP top 25, without NOS.
Also, a page like that would be very handy for you all, so you can see who's on top, and what they've done.
Murdock
OK, I just searched through 13 pages of posts on the 4th gen forum about 1/4 mile times.
Best is a 13.4 out of a SC'd intercooled max, which is a very good time.
There where 3 others in the 13's, the rest in the 14's +
Go check out:
http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp?txtfunc=2
Thats the GTP top 25, without NOS.
Also, a page like that would be very handy for you all, so you can see who's on top, and what they've done.
Murdock
we have a 4th gen running mid 12s here. 
10-07-2001, 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
You seem like a good person. Not trying to start anything. we have a 4th gen running mid 12s here.
You seem like a good person. Not trying to start anything.
we have a 4th gen running mid 12s here.
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10-07-2001, 01:04 PM
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You seem obessed with this corners thing. Do you think that we don't have cornering ability or what? We have several very serious AutoX people and they do very well in the races. I personally have my car setup for road racing vs. drag racing. What makes you think GP's don't handle?
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
10-07-2001, 01:11 PM
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Re: Re: Open Invitation for a race
Originally posted by psing23
low 17's?
maybe its a maxima body with a GP engine in it
either that is 1 slowwwww track or something fishy is up... never even heard a VG run in the 17s...
low 17's?
maybe its a maxima body with a GP engine in it
either that is 1 slowwwww track or something fishy is up... never even heard a VG run in the 17s...
that was before he was powered by an ooglie
10-07-2001, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Generic
You seem obessed with this corners thing. Do you think that we don't have cornering ability or what? We have several very serious AutoX people and they do very well in the races. I personally have my car setup for road racing vs. drag racing. What makes you think GP's don't handle?
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
You seem obessed with this corners thing. Do you think that we don't have cornering ability or what? We have several very serious AutoX people and they do very well in the races. I personally have my car setup for road racing vs. drag racing. What makes you think GP's don't handle?
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
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10-07-2001, 03:45 PM
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I wouldn't know my skid pad? I have a rear sway bar, front strut tower brace, 225/17" and springs. I'm sure it is better than any mag data.
Originally posted by Generic
You seem obessed with this corners thing. Do you think that we don't have cornering ability or what? We have several very serious AutoX people and they do very well in the races. I personally have my car setup for road racing vs. drag racing. What makes you think GP's don't handle?
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
You seem obessed with this corners thing. Do you think that we don't have cornering ability or what? We have several very serious AutoX people and they do very well in the races. I personally have my car setup for road racing vs. drag racing. What makes you think GP's don't handle?
I'm curious, I did a quick search, but didn't see it, whats the skidpad rating for a SE?
Murdock
10-07-2001, 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
I wouldn't know my skid pad? I have a rear sway bar, front strut tower brace, 225/17" and springs. I'm sure it is better than any mag data.
I wouldn't know my skid pad? I have a rear sway bar, front strut tower brace, 225/17" and springs. I'm sure it is better than any mag data.
10-07-2001, 06:53 PM
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So .80G from the factory?
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
10-07-2001, 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Generic
So .80G from the factory?
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
So .80G from the factory?
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
10-07-2001, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by BlackSE
Dude, you may beat us in the QTR but you'll get your a$$ handed to you in the twistys.
Dude, you may beat us in the QTR but you'll get your a$$ handed to you in the twistys.
10-07-2001, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
lets not be cls people. he'll hand me my a$$ if he raced me in the twisties. stock se vs. aftermarket suspension?
lets not be cls people. he'll hand me my a$$ if he raced me in the twisties. stock se vs. aftermarket suspension?
10-07-2001, 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Generic
So .80G from the factory?
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
So .80G from the factory?
GP's are .79 my god, what a HUGE different that you speak of
As for me, I have:
Eibachs
Front and rear strut tower braces
Rear sway bar
Front bushings and endlinks
245/45/R17's
And Magna Steer
So, its not exactly a slouch either.
Murdock
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