Originally Posted by Stardust

So how do you think we would go about finding the answer?I'll give you a hint... SEARCH

Originally Posted by upstatemax

You do know that once you find a thread that could hold your answer you can open that thread and search in ONLY that thread for your answer...It's the button that says "Search this thread"...

Originally Posted by ptviperz

I don't know, I've yet to see you give an answer. I've answered several questions in brake threads....more than I've seen you do.

Originally Posted by ptviperz

I hadn't noticed that button. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Puppetmaster

My three cents:

This is a gray area. I've always moderated based on both the tone and direction of the thread, even if there is so called flaming going on, because sometimes even when there are hostile responses, there is some useful information and the discussion actually remains constructive. It is rare, but it happens.

And like Matt and Prince posted, new members can't be so sensitive nor should vets jump at everyone's throat about a repost, but there is a fine line between a reminder for people to do their part before posting a new thread and flaming. BOTH parties need to realize that this is still just the internet.

Also, for people who have issues with the way the moderators do things around here, please feel free to email/PM/IM us with comments. I can't promise that we'll execute all your suggestions, but they will be considered seriously. If you have issues with a post or a thread, please use the report bad post button. Just because we're not on here everyday posting/locking doesn't mean that we're letting this forum go to the dogs.

Originally Posted by Colonel

I only have one beef about some posts. When you come into a forum asking for help, it would be nice to not type in "IM speak". You are asking vets to take time to help you solve your issue, take the time to at LEAST type in plain English. It doesnt take any longer, makes the post much easier to read and will probably get you a usable response quicker.

If you are to lazy to type, I am to lazy to help.

Originally Posted by maximo-SE

one thing about this site is that people dont know how to search. we should make it clear to all noobs or vets or passer byers how to search. that will make things much easier to deal with.

i never flame.... i just sarcastically criticize you...

btw the urbandictionary rules.

Originally Posted by Rydicule

Wow, this thread went hostile...

I think some people are a little confused about this, or at least how I interpret it. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem that hard to me...

The rule isn't saying you should spoonfeed new members and give them their answers to any and every thread they post. It's not a kick in the nuts to the veterans.

There are threads on here where someone with a whopping 20 posts under their belt asks a question about something that people who have been here for 6 months new there was a single elaborate thread about. The responses that ensue in this scenario from some of the veterans in this thread are downright nasty, degrading and insulting people. It seems really unnecessary MOST OF THE TIME.


However, there are also what I call "The Sooner Responses". VERY rarely have I found these responses to be overkill like some of the others, even though they are generally sarcastic. They get the point across firmly without being insulting. Posting "Ask yourself: Does this topic REALLY need a new thread?" is not degrading or flaming at all in my book, and I don't think a response like this or many of the other Sooner Responses would violate a rule like this. Irish gave good examples of the kinds of things that would be a violation early in the thread, utilizing profanity and personal insults. I agree that these responses should not be tolerated, they are not constructive in any way.



On a side note, A LOT of the OGs and Veterans here harp on and on about searching and all the available information that has been discussed on here, however, if a newbie goes and actually does search, finds a thread that's over a year old, and posts a relevent question pertaining to the topic of that thread, the vice squad is there to harp on about bringing threads back from the grave. If the information that is in the grave is for read-only purposes, and you can't post a new thread with a question about that topic, well, what's the point in searching them? (By the way, I'm not talking about the leeches bringing back 6 year old threads with stupid pointless "That's cool" type posts to get up to 15)

There was actually an old 2003 thread I was reading discussing (or rather arguing) the pros and potential cons of a modification that would adjust the clutch engagement point on a 6 speed. The thread ended with two factions strongly for or against the mod, and had no distinct conclusion. Given that the information was 4 years old, I was curious if anyone had any new information or ideas on the point, and considered posting in the thread, but backed off due to the consequences of bumping a 4 year old thread. I also considered a new thread on the subject, but then again, the thread I had just read was like 9 pages long and I didn't want to get all the "REPOST OMG!!! THIS DOESN'T NEED A NEW THREAD!!!!" crap either. So I just let it go. True story.

I realize now that there are ways to bring old threads back or start new topics like this that would be appropriate, but I was fairly new at the time and didn't want to risk some of the flame fest I saw in other threads.



I also have to say, being someone who does get an occasional moment to read at work I do go through old threads. I am actually shocked at how knowledgeable some of the Veterans are, and I think it's genuinely sad that if someone were to track the last 1000 posts (by two veterans in this thread particularly), I'd bet that at least 970+ of them would just be flamefest or OT posts. But oh well, to each their own.

Originally Posted by raidwolf

I think what might be the problem is that the Discussion forums are poorly organized. There are no sub-sections within each forum. A lot of threads here are "I have a problem" thread. It might be a better idea to divide sub-sections within each generation into things like "appearance/lighting/body kits," "suspension/braking," "engine/hp&tq mods," "mechanical/installation help," and so forth. We already have threads and stickies discussing various intakes, headers/exhausts, spring/strut combos, but all this info is jumbled up into one big subsection of this forum, which may seem daunting for newer members to try searching. I understand that would be a great undertaking, especially since there are so many generations of the maxima, but on a few other forums to which I belong and lurk, that's the general idea of how they're structured. And hardly any of its members are as angry at each other as we are.

Originally Posted by Dust N Bones

That really seems to be the underlying problem I mean I know some are just lazy but I do believe some people actually do attempt to search. Has fixing the search function or even making it available to everyone ever been discussed?
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Originally Posted by upstatemax

Donation = Good

It's only $20... Don't tell me this site has not saved nearly everyone on this forum well over $20.

Originally Posted by ZIPPIN

What does this thread have to do with this?

We’re pleased to announce that Maxima.org has been acquired by Internet Brands, Inc., which operates leading automotive web sites such as CarsDirect.com and NewCarTestDrive. Internet Brands plans to keep Maxima.org a separate, thriving site as we continue to expand our content, community and traffic.

The main benefit of the acquisition be more infrastructure and technology resources behind the site. Better servers and hardware will mean better performance for the site. And more technology resources will mean faster bug-fixes, quicker turnaround on site changes and more frequent updates in site software. You’ll still access the site as you always have with your existing username and password.

We're excited about the upgrades the acquisition will bring, and hope you are too.

Originally Posted by Stardust

then SEARCH, you'll find plenty. I answer intelligent questions that take time & thought...

Stupid threads get stupid answers.

Originally Posted by Stardust

Thats because you don't search, you just start threads.IFMB

Originally Posted by The Law

Dear <insertusernamehere>,

Thank you for visiting Maxima.org! Your stay here will be longer, more productive and infinitely more enjoyable for all involved if you learn to use the “search” feature.

If you donate, a world of delicious and nutritious search options are available to you!
https://maxima.org/index.php?pageid=Donations

Don’t want to donate? Learn to use Google to its fullest!
To search The Org for answers about how often to change your blinker fluid, go to www.google.com and try:
blinker+fluid+change site:http://forums.maxima.org

Remember, search first, post second!

Thank you! Come again!

Originally Posted by irish44j

stupid threads should be ignored, then they'll be locked and/or sink to the bottom and fall off the page into internet forum nowhereland....

Originally Posted by 00SEMAX19

And Mr Soon, havn't you posted that same crap about 5 times in this thread. Everybody gets your point.

Originally Posted by soonerfan

but the OP and others wont realize the mistake

Originally Posted by soonerfan

obviously everyone hasnt since people continue to blame the "lack of a good search"