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Old 10-29-2001, 04:08 PM
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Uh oh...challenged by a 2K2...

My CL-S friend was talking **** for me to a guy off another ship who's just purchased a 2K2 GLE. From what I've told, my friend's words were something along the lines of "screw your 255hp, my friend's modded 2K will whip you." Apparently the guy wasn't about to back down, even though he's only got 300 miles on it. My friend orchestrated it so we could all go play later tonight. I'm curious to see if every 2K2 is going to be able to beat my *** or if I stand a chance with my mods. For this race at least, I'll have the advantage of him not having his broken in or knowing his car too well, but I don't know if that'll be enough. My last dyno was at 190.1fwhp and 191.2fwtq with the OSCAI, and now that I have the JWT I should be a little higher. I did some math and if the 2k2 auto saps as much as the 2k & 2k1's (25%), that would put him at 191.25fwhp and 184.5fwtq. So are the 2k2 trannies as bad as ours or did Nissan un**** them yet? And most importantly, does anyone think I have a shot?
 
Old 10-29-2001, 04:21 PM
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Yeah I would like to see this one, cause I am about to add just about the same mods you are.
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Old 10-29-2001, 04:23 PM
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Re: Uh oh...challenged by a 2K2...

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My CL-S friend was talking **** for me to a guy off another ship who's just purchased a 2K2 GLE. From what I've told, my friend's words were something along the lines of "screw your 255hp, my friend's modded 2K will whip you." Apparently the guy wasn't about to back down, even though he's only got 300 miles on it. My friend orchestrated it so we could all go play later tonight. I'm curious to see if every 2K2 is going to be able to beat my *** or if I stand a chance with my mods. For this race at least, I'll have the advantage of him not having his broken in or knowing his car too well, but I don't know if that'll be enough. My last dyno was at 190.1fwhp and 191.2fwtq with the OSCAI, and now that I have the JWT I should be a little higher. I did some math and if the 2k2 auto saps as much as the 2k & 2k1's (25%), that would put him at 191.25fwhp and 184.5fwtq. So are the 2k2 trannies as bad as ours or did Nissan un**** them yet? And most importantly, does anyone think I have a shot?
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Old 10-29-2001, 04:42 PM
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oooo..... run him

To say the least, I am interested in the results.... considering that you and I have almost the exact same mods, it should be a good gauge...
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Old 10-29-2001, 04:50 PM
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oooo..... run him

To say the least, I am interested in the results.... considering that you and I have almost the exact same mods, it should be a good gauge...
I'm not sure how good of comparison it'll be between our cars and the 2k2's since he's not even broken in yet. I'm wondering if I should go now, since whether I win or lose, I'm gonna feel the need for more mods...
 
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hmm

Can't wait to hear the results...Wish you had a 5spd doncha
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Old 10-29-2001, 04:58 PM
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I say give it a go ...

It'll look bad if you back off ... what excuse are you going to give?

If you lose ... well .. u honestly tried your best ...

If you win ... well ...

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Re: hmm

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Can't wait to hear the results...Wish you had a 5spd doncha
shooosh....you be quiet. If I lose I can blame it on getting my H&R's bought and installed (car handles awesome & looks great!) instead of getting the VB done. Man, my credit card company is gonna love me....
 
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hehehe... win or lose, you will want more mods.

If you lose, then you will want to beat the guy.
If you win, you will want to beat him even worse
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Old 10-29-2001, 05:09 PM
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hehehe... win or lose, you will want more mods.

If you lose, then you will want to beat the guy.
If you win, you will want to beat him even worse
Ahhh...the horrible, horrible truth.
 
Old 10-29-2001, 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by nc00max


Ahhh...the horrible, horrible truth.
yup....

I raced a guy with a subaru outback this morning from a red light. I let the car shift at 5.5k rpm and the guy was a car length back at 40 mph... I think I should have beat him worse
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I say give it a go! according to the whp you posted you sound just about even with the 2k2, unless the new tranny is a miracle worker.and given the fact that he has 300 miles hees not broken in yet gives you an advantage. does this guy know racing his car w/ out it being broken it yet isnt good? o well I guess thats his problem!
Ill definitly be awaiting the results of THIS race!!!
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Old 10-29-2001, 05:18 PM
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Another ? I have is, do you need to manual shift to get all the goodness out of the auto? If so, it's unlikely he knows about that, and in which case, I'm starting to feel pretty good about it...

As far as the break-in goes, my friend said he's a ****head anyways, and not to worry about it. But I'm not worried about him...I'm worried about that poor Max...
 
Old 10-29-2001, 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by nc00max
Another ? I have is, do you need to manual shift to get all the goodness out of the auto? If so, it's unlikely he knows about that, and in which case, I'm starting to feel pretty good about it...
for you, you should definitely manually shift... I don't know if the 2k2 trannies shift at redline or not... if they don't and he doesn't know this, then I say you have a pretty good chance
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for you, you should definitely manually shift... I don't know if the 2k2 trannies shift at redline or not... if they don't and he doesn't know this, then I say you have a pretty good chance
I test drove one when my mom was visiting, and it didn't shift at redline either, but I thought maybe the powerband was different and it didn't need to. We rode around for 10 minutes in the 2k2, and after my mom told the salesman mine felt stronger, we all rode around a bit in mine and he agreed. Then he was like "but think what you could do if you modified the 2002!" He may still be right, but we'll see...
 
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Originally posted by nc00max


I test drove one when my mom was visiting, and it didn't shift at redline either, but I thought maybe the powerband was different and it didn't need to. We rode around for 10 minutes in the 2k2, and after my mom told the salesman mine felt stronger, we all rode around a bit in mine and he agreed. Then he was like "but think what you could do if you modified the 2002!" He may still be right, but we'll see...
Uh OH!! now if your own mom says yours feels stronger than the 2k2 thats a good sign..and I bet the 2k2 guy wont shift manually and since you will....looks like the odds are in your favor!!!
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Uh OH!! now if your own mom says yours feels stronger than the 2k2 thats a good sign..and I bet the 2k2 guy wont shift manually and since you will....looks like the odds are in your favor!!!
At first I figured mom was just being nice, since she's, ya know, mom. That's why we took the salesman for a ride in my car. Damn, I'm starting to get hyped now...I'm still gonna kick my friend's *** though for "volunteering" me. He's curious to see what his CL-S will do against the new Max after losing to me on the highway (after my TL-S almost-kill he wanted to see what he could do). That should be a good race too. His CL-S is sweeeeet, but I'm wondering what it'll do against the new max too.
 
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Re: Uh oh...challenged by a 2K2...

Originally posted by nc00max
My last dyno was at 190.1fwhp and 191.2fwtq with the OSCAI, and now that I have the JWT I should be a little higher. I did some math and if the 2k2 auto saps as much as the 2k & 2k1's (25%), that would put him at 191.25fwhp and 184.5fwtq. So are the 2k2 trannies as bad as ours or did Nissan un**** them yet? And most importantly, does anyone think I have a shot?
I/Y-pipe/UDP really add up to 25hp and 28 ft./lbs to the wheels? Thats awesome.
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Old 10-29-2001, 05:49 PM
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As long as you brake torque and manual shift your car properly you should win!
 
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It sounds like it will be a good race. I think if the guys knows how to brake TQ and shift he will beat you though. BTW although you have simalar peak HP #'s to a 02 Auto you have to remember that the 02's peak #'s are a bit earlier in the power band. He also has a lot of extra TQ down low and a improved tranny{or so I here}. Go out and race him and let us know!
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It sounds like it will be a good race. I think if the guys knows how to brake TQ and shift he will beat you though. BTW although you have simalar peak HP #'s to a 02 Auto you have to remember that the 02's peak #'s are a bit earlier in the power band. He also has a lot of extra TQ down low and a improved tranny{or so I here}. Go out and race him and let us know!
Does the tranny sap 25% of torque as well, or is it a different #? If so, I should have a little more torque than him, although it may be in a different area of the powerband. Anyways, I gotta go now. Should be fun!
 
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Does the tranny sap 25% of torque as well, or is it a different #? If so, I should have a little more torque than him, although it may be in a different area of the powerband. Anyways, I gotta go now. Should be fun!
No one has seen a dyno chart of a stock 2K2 yet so who knows for sure???
 
Old 10-29-2001, 06:11 PM
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Let's not forget also that a fully broken-in motor can put out a little more horsepower than a brand new one.
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Did you race yet?
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Did you race yet?
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Yes, I saw.

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WELL??

Comon already!!!
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Re: WELL??

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Comon already!!!
Here you go:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=75105
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So wha'happon??? Did I miss the race?
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He proabably won't have the b@&&s to wind it up with 300 miles on it. You should be fine.
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yeah

Kev's such a good moderator Too bad he won't dyno his car or run it. Ya big Dork
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Re: yeah

Originally posted by DeaZaL
Kev's such a good moderator :kiss Too bad he won't dyno his car or run it. Ya big Dork:shy
What's that brown stuff on your nose? j/k

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i'll give you a cookie if you go dyno
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
i'll give you a cookie if you go dyno
Cookie first.
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