Few questions regarding Exhaust..
#1
Few questions regarding Exhaust..
Ok, well my baffles inside my muffler and rattling around, so i want to replace my exhaust with a cat back system but do NOT want that ricey sound,i prefer using a flowmaster or magnaflow muffler, but do they sell an aftermarket pipe between the cat and muffler? If so who makes it and what would the increases in sound and power be? Also a hi flow cat decently priced would be nice to get also,preferably one with a spot for an o2 sensor already.Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
#2
Ok, well my baffles inside my muffler and rattling around, so i want to replace my exhaust with a cat back system but do NOT want that ricey sound,i prefer using a flowmaster or magnaflow muffler, but do they sell an aftermarket pipe between the cat and muffler? If so who makes it and what would the increases in sound and power be? Also a hi flow cat decently priced would be nice to get also,preferably one with a spot for an o2 sensor already.Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
#3
You have a number of choices you could buy a whole catback system from Cattman. You can look up cattman on you tube and hear how it sounds and then follow suit by going to the groupbuy section and locating the thread for cattman stuff. That is IMO the quietest sounding exhaust. The other options are Megan, HKS, Greddy but they are louder IMO.
you second choice is to buy a universal flowmaster or magnaflow muffler on ebay (50-100) and a resonator (30) and take it to an exhaust shop to have them weld it in for you (80-200).
as for a hiflow cat isnt worth it as it won't yield any gains for you, todays cats are pretty free flow as it is, a stock cat is just fine.
IBbutdaveyoujustorderedahiflowcat and to that I say thats because of what I am building.
you second choice is to buy a universal flowmaster or magnaflow muffler on ebay (50-100) and a resonator (30) and take it to an exhaust shop to have them weld it in for you (80-200).
as for a hiflow cat isnt worth it as it won't yield any gains for you, todays cats are pretty free flow as it is, a stock cat is just fine.
IBbutdaveyoujustorderedahiflowcat and to that I say thats because of what I am building.
#4
yes magnaflow and flowmaster lower end mufflers are loud, IE the 40 series muffler but the 60 and 80 series mufflers are quiet nice...In fact it is what I bought for my next setup with a 3" exhaust
#6
exhaust doesnt do anything as far as power goes(from what ive read here) Its just for sound. Keep it stock if you have Automagic. Sometimes I wish I did, like ive said before, that drone on a flowmaster can be a **** sometimes.
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#8
A turbo style muffler will give you a deeper idle and only be a little louder than stock-provided you also have a resonator. Try to find a muffler shop than can mandrel bend a system for you-still, there is only a few hp to be made with the exhaust so I wouldn't go nuts $$$-wise.
#9
I bought a universal muffler off of ebay a couple months ago and got it welded on. The muffler was only like $30 plus shipping, and it sounds great! It has a low deep growl to it, and that's it. No raspiness, no bees in a can sound, just a very low deep growl. And it's very quiet, honestly I wanted it to be a little louder...
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#11
I just ordered a Vibrant muffler. http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...ae118c0f0dcb53
Looks very stealthy and nobody here has it so thought I'd try something different. Looks kinda like a black Cattman.
Looks very stealthy and nobody here has it so thought I'd try something different. Looks kinda like a black Cattman.
#14
depends on the shop though, you might be able to put a whole system together and installed for 250-300
as a side note, I'll have an electric exhaust cutout for those times I want to be loud. I looked them up the other day though $250 for one.
Last edited by DrunkieTheBear; 07-23-2008 at 08:58 PM.
#15
To the OP: I think someone is/was selling an OEM muffler in the 5th gen classifieds... I'm sure that's the cheapest way to go, unless you really want a different sound.
#16
What Flowmaster do you have? 40 Series Delta Flow, maybe? I think they sound good (from the outside), and am considering one. But I don't want it to drone horribly at speed. I'm hoping to pick out my own muffler and have a shop make a custom B-pipe and attach it all.
To the OP: I think someone is/was selling an OEM muffler in the 5th gen classifieds... I'm sure that's the cheapest way to go, unless you really want a different sound.
To the OP: I think someone is/was selling an OEM muffler in the 5th gen classifieds... I'm sure that's the cheapest way to go, unless you really want a different sound.
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#20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoeaiT_kS2o
BTW reving this exhaust does it no justice it sounds 10x better on the road
Here is the cheapest place to get it + free shipping be prepared to wait for it but it's well worth it
http://sportcompactwarehouse.com/meg.../i-175855.aspx
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#21
[quote=SilverGLE;6534537]What Flowmaster do you have? 40 Series Delta Flow, maybe? I think they sound good (from the outside), and am considering one. But I don't want it to drone horribly at speed. I'm hoping to pick out my own muffler and have a shop make a custom B-pipe and attach it all.quote]
I have the 40 series. with no resonator. Even though Ive been told that no resonator doesnt do much either, im running straight pipe after the cat. i like it, its not ricey, IMO
I have the 40 series. with no resonator. Even though Ive been told that no resonator doesnt do much either, im running straight pipe after the cat. i like it, its not ricey, IMO
#22
What Flowmaster do you have? 40 Series Delta Flow, maybe? I think they sound good (from the outside), and am considering one. But I don't want it to drone horribly at speed. I'm hoping to pick out my own muffler and have a shop make a custom B-pipe and attach it all.
To the OP: I think someone is/was selling an OEM muffler in the 5th gen classifieds... I'm sure that's the cheapest way to go, unless you really want a different sound.
To the OP: I think someone is/was selling an OEM muffler in the 5th gen classifieds... I'm sure that's the cheapest way to go, unless you really want a different sound.
I partialy agree I don't think its the exhaust that does increase the power but the pipe that bends up over the axel is the major cuperit in power loss it is a small non-mandrel bent pipe that totaly restricts the flow. I have the megan setup and I love it it's not too loud but deffinatly noticable and yes I did get a signifigent power gain. I read someone else had fitment issues which I also had however they were slight and easily resolved issue 1: one of the flanges didn't line up fix: heated it up and bent it to fit, issue 2: banging resolved by having a hanger welded onto where the pipe crosses to the passengers side this stopped the pipe from shifting side to side and banging into the factory hanger post, issue 3: leaks fixed by replacing their sh*** gaskets with heavy duty gaskets. All in all I would definatly recomend the megan catback in total it cost me $490 shipped and installed with the second hanger I believe that the cost of the system is comperable to using a universal muffler with custom bent piping. However it is not an easy product to get it took me over a month before I got mine but it was worth the wait. Here is a sound clip and sorry for the long post but I hope it helps you out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoeaiT_kS2o
BTW reving this exhaust does it no justice it sounds 10x better on the road
Here is the cheapest place to get it + free shipping be prepared to wait for it but it's well worth it
http://sportcompactwarehouse.com/meg.../i-175855.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoeaiT_kS2o
BTW reving this exhaust does it no justice it sounds 10x better on the road
Here is the cheapest place to get it + free shipping be prepared to wait for it but it's well worth it
http://sportcompactwarehouse.com/meg.../i-175855.aspx
hmm good advice....i debating if i should get the megan cat back or a flowmaster 40 series delta flow with a muffler shop customizing my cat back with 3' piping? cuz the price for the megan cat back is alot considering i just purchased a stillen y-pipe (got it yesterday) and im waiting to put it all together
#23
I would just pick up the muffler of your choice and have a reputable shop bend up a catback for you, stock exhaust is perfectly fine if you want it to sound, well, stock and boring...Pick up an aftermarket muffler if you'd like some tone and a increased volume, it doesn't have to be too loud if you don't want it to be.
#24
i don't know about flowmaster, but i have to disagree about the magnaflow.. compared to the honda fart cans, megan catback, and stillen catback that i've all heard in person, the magnaflow street series is much quieter.. a buddy of mine has a 6th gen with 2 magnaflow mufflers and a stock catback, and you wouldn't even know he had an exhaust unless he was really on the throttle.. from the outside, it's barely audible upon startup, and cruising behind him and beside him i can't even hear it.. when he's racing though, that's when you hear it... and it sounds nice..
#25
too compare the megan with headers to frankencar/megan with headers:
Not even full throttle (megan):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVTUh9-LQAo
Frankencar/megan mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzEJPZcj0L8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0YDyO4uDwQ
I like my frankencar sound, the video camera does not capture the deep sound.
God I can't wait till the next autox season, i backed out this season because I'm having an issue with my LCA/balljoints so I decided not to push on it till I replace it in december....full torque at low RPMs FTW
Not even full throttle (megan):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVTUh9-LQAo
Frankencar/megan mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzEJPZcj0L8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0YDyO4uDwQ
I like my frankencar sound, the video camera does not capture the deep sound.
God I can't wait till the next autox season, i backed out this season because I'm having an issue with my LCA/balljoints so I decided not to push on it till I replace it in december....full torque at low RPMs FTW
Last edited by DrunkieTheBear; 07-24-2008 at 08:41 PM.
#27
I have an entire Cattman Exhaust, Y-pipe, warpspeed Metallic cat and Cattman catback...I love it! It's a really nice sound but there's no stealthier muffler than the stock, it really runs super quiet at idle and part throttle and flow well too! Very crisp throttle response...
#29
Based on the research I did long ago, the general consensus (sp?) is that new a b-pipe and muffler is fine, but if you play on headers and/or y-pipe, keep the stock muffler as aftermarket can be too loud. Personally, I'll likley replace the b-pipe and use a Flowmaster 40 Series Delta Flow muffler.
#30
Based on the research I did long ago, the general consensus (sp?) is that new a b-pipe and muffler is fine, but if you play on headers and/or y-pipe, keep the stock muffler as aftermarket can be too loud. Personally, I'll likley replace the b-pipe and use a Flowmaster 40 Series Delta Flow muffler.
#33
That would be why it was so quiet. Those of us with a full exhaust like to keep it toned down, when you using a 40 series muffler with a setup like mine, it proves to be quiet loud. Thats why i got ride of the megan, once you go headers with the megan it becomes too loud IMO
#35
I found that it gave me a noticable performance boost it's much quicker now and would say it is deffinatly worth it. I'm gonna dyno it next weekend so I will post the results.
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#40
If what you mean by "big impact on performance" is a significant increase in power, apart from headers or nitrous, nothing else is really going to do that for these cars.