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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Settling Springs / Progress

How long did it take everyone's springs to settle? I just put my progress springs on this weekend and man it sits up high in the front. When they did settle did the rears go down a little further? Did the fronts go down more than the rears?
Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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I doubt that,... measure from the ground to the wheel well lip it's 26" -26 1/4" depending on your tire size! Did you measure and record the dimension after you installed them and mail off the warranty registration form? Mine have been on for nearly 2 yrs no sagging! Check you tire pressure
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post some pics up
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scarface4522
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Guess Im going to either get some tires with some more meat on them and/or go up a wheel size...Im looking for some nice wheels and tires now any how. But man it looks boatish....Feel a lil boatish also. But for now it will do.

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That's weird, front is noticeably higher. Where the springs new or used? Manual or auto tranny? Maybe these two things combined could have this effect on the ride height?
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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That's weird, front is noticeably higher. Where the springs new or used? Manual or auto tranny? Maybe these two things combined could have this effect on the ride height?
Im a Manual and I got them here on the org
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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The springs won't settle lower over time, at least not enough that it'll be obvious, unless something is wrong with them.

What size tires do you have?

Plenty of pics of Progress drops here:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ed-thread.html

And yours doesn't look quite like them.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
The springs won't settle lower over time, at least not enough that it'll be obvious, unless something is wrong with them.

What size tires do you have?

Plenty of pics of Progress drops here:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ed-thread.html

And yours doesn't look quite like them.
Tell me about it...235/35/19. back to the drawing board. Bc I really dont like how the front looks.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Yeah, Progress are known to be semi- on the 'high' side in front, from a 'looks' POV.
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Any advise or views on cutting half a coil or a coil off???
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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I switched to Sprint up front because I liked 'the look'.

But the ride is pretty rough. S-Techs, IMO, have a bad spring rate considering their drop. And make sure and cut a good bit of your bump stop off if you do decide to go w/ S-Tech.

FYI, I have S-Techs in fronts & Progress in the rear.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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yeah man.. im with you on the progress front being eh,.... on my old max.. i had vogtland springs and the front was def lower than it is now on my progress springs,... mine looks exactly like yours,.. front is higher then i like.....heres my pics http://forums.maxima.org/6907788-post12.html FWIW- im pretty sure the standard tranny is lighter then the auto.. which could affect the height...im going to go measure from the ground to the edge of my fenders...you should do the same so we could compare (obvi) there are alot of variables that will make this different..weight..tires..wheels..tire pressure..level ground ect.. but w/e .. lol...

okay.. got some #'s.. i gotta check the tire pressure because i think its not all even.. and find some more level ground.. i think the ground leans to the drivers side lol.. but hope this helps to figure out if you have anything wrong...also on illuminas set 4f5r

front driver- 26 3/16
front pass- 26 3/4
rear driver- 26 5/16
rear pass- 26 7/8

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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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i have progress also and mine sits higher than I like in the front also, was thinking about going with some s techs up front, I'll post up pics later.
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Maybe it's just my taste, but I liked the Progress drop up front. Mine didn't seem like it looked higher in front. This is with 235/40/18 tires.



Anyway, if you want to go any lower in front, get coilovers. Any lower up front with springs/struts and you have no suspension travel. I thought the Progress was the limit already and I know S-Techs and Sprint are even lower.
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I will take some measurements in a few when i get 2 where my measureing tape is. But it looks so stockish in the front. I mean the ride is cool, but uhhh....foogly. And puppetmaster i do like ur drop in the pic...which further leads me to think if it is effected by any other mods...i have the strut tower brace, and the chasis brace under the car. I know when i did the suspension i had to take off the bolt that connects to the sway bar so that the A arm would drop down lower to get the suspension in. Oh yea and i just took the coil overs off of here.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000MilkedMax
I will take some measurements in a few when i get 2 where my measureing tape is. But it looks so stockish in the front. I mean the ride is cool, but uhhh....foogly. And puppetmaster i do like ur drop in the pic...which further leads me to think if it is effected by any other mods...i have the strut tower brace, and the chasis brace under the car. I know when i did the suspension i had to take off the bolt that connects to the sway bar so that the A arm would drop down lower to get the suspension in. Oh yea and i just took the coil overs off of here.
chasis brace?,.. are you refering to the blhemco lower tie bar? just trying to clear this up...
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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it may not look higher in the front but it is a little, makes the back looks like it kinda sagging. Puppetmaster, I like the way yours looks. maybe I need to get bigger wheels. i have 17's with 235/45/17.


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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Let's end the "my front end is sitting higher than the back end" It isn't sitting higher. The front wheel well is bigger than the rear wheel well. Nissan's, mitsubishi's and a host of other cars have the same thing.

Here's the proof straight from the manual

Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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If it makes you feel better, I had the same problem with H&R's on my car. And I'm an auto. I think if I play with the tire size, it'll fill in a little, but otherwise, I think I'm doomed unless I go with something more aggressive. Like knight says, it doesn't help the wheel well up front is larger. What is totally messed up is my car is clearly lowered, I tend to scrap the bottom of the car on larger speed bumps that weren't a problem with the stock suspension.

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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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You might just need a higher profile tire
heres progress with 225/45 all around
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yeahp the bigger wheel well isnt allways nice looking.




get more beef or look at coil overs if you really concerned with a better looking stance
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
yeahp the bigger wheel well isnt allways nice looking.




get more beef or look at coil overs if you really concerned with a better looking stance
Looking good Colin. Definitely have to give you a call and drop by with 3rd gen once most of the work is finished.

Hope all is good though bro.

Sorry to go ot. lol
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Have you measured from the front and rear of the side skirts? That will give you a better indication of if the car is level or not. Alot of cars have a higher, not bigger front wheel well arch BMWs for example. But because of their wedge shape it doesn't look akward like on our cars.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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To clear all this up, you arent going crazy at all. the progress sits lower in the rear and more gap up front. lower profile up front or not. I think i'm gonna get S. Techs up front to solve that problem. or you could just go coilovers
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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I'm extremely pleased with my Progress springs(w/Illuminas) visually and comfort wise! The stance is racked downward from back to front the wheel well lips are equal in height. I couldn't get my thumb between my tire and the fender lip before I installed ES coil spring isolators now just barely a thumb definitely not 2 fingers. I feel like if you wanna go sled style, an investment into coilovers would be your proper path!
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The Progress drop is 1.7" in front and 1.5" in the rear, while the Nissan diagram posted above shows that on average, the front fender is approx. 0.5" higher than the rear. Even with a Progress drop, you have a front that is about 0.3" higher. Blame it on Progress if you want, but just remember that these cars came with a higher/bigger front gap to begin with.

Another thing to note is what you're carrying in your trunk. All those with a big sub in the back will probably have some sag back there too. In the picture I posted, my trunk is empty except for the spare. I was on a road trip but even then I tend to leave my bags in the back seat and not the trunk.
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Another thing to note is what you're carrying in your trunk. All those with a big sub in the back will probably have some sag back there too. In the picture I posted, my trunk is empty except for the spare. I was on a road trip but even then I tend to leave my bags in the back seat and not the trunk.
Yes that is a good note...I literally do the same thing...and try and pack it all in the seating area and not the trunk. another reason why i dont have ne subs in the back.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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I' haven't Noticed any sagging or *** down syndrone and my wife packs like were moving to Louisiana everytime we make that 250 mile trip, you would never know that the trunk is even loaded!
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Originally Posted by mist max2000
chasis brace?,.. are you refering to the blhemco lower tie bar? just trying to clear this up...
Yes, I was replying on the fly from my phone and couldn't recall the name.... Stage 2
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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When I took the pic my trunk was totally empty. And I finally got around to measuring the distance from the ground to the fender and the fronts are 26 1/2 and the rears are 25 1/2. Im thinking my next set of tires will be 245/45/19. Ill hope it wont rub. But it should fill it in nicely. But I am aware that the natural stance of a maxima is to have the front up higher. Which is probably why progress deliver such a great ride. Im going to put the factory wheels back on and see how it looks and rides.
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Originally Posted by 2000MilkedMax
When I took the pic my trunk was totally empty. And I finally got around to measuring the distance from the ground to the fender and the fronts are 26 1/2 and the rears are 25 1/2. Im thinking my next set of tires will be 245/45/19. Ill hope it wont rub. But it should fill it in nicely. But I am aware that the natural stance of a maxima is to have the front up higher. Which is probably why progress deliver such a great ride. Im going to put the factory wheels back on and see how it looks and rides.
That's weird! My measurement are 26.25" Fr/26.25"R they were 26" F/R but I installed some ES polyurethane coil isolators and they're on the thick side. Sure you installed the front and rears assemblies correct with all the associated parts??? I wearing 18" wheels w/245/40/18 Nitto Extremes
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
That's weird! My measurement are 26.25" Fr/26.25"R they were 26" F/R but I installed some ES polyurethane coil isolators and they're on the thick side. Sure you installed the front and rears assemblies correct with all the associated parts??? I wearing 18" wheels w/245/40/18 Nitto Extremes
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I used all the hardware that came off the top of the old suspension. And I noticed on my alignment sheet my rear toe is way off. Im at a total loss. The top of the wheel is more in toward the car.

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000MilkedMax
I used all the hardware that came off the top of the old suspension. And I noticed on my alignment sheet my rear toe is way off. Im at a total loss. The top of the wheel is more in toward the car.
Call Progress and have them send you anther set if you think everything is installed correctly....Seems awfully low in the rear! Sure your upper spring seats (rear) are there or in good condition? What kinda rear struts are you using?
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Yea, they looked good. And im running tokico illumina struts.
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