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Old May 15, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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For those that wanted to know and all that good stuff here is the updated thread about what happened and dyno proof.

http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-discus...sis-fixed.html
Old May 15, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Wait.. I'm confused. Did you put the canister back on as well? Or just the sensor? Because I've run without the canister when I had the 350Z I/M on the first time and it ran just fine.

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Old May 16, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Old May 24, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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UPDATE please read page 3.....



Ok so they had a dyno day today at a local shop. I knew I wasn't going to run great numbers because I knew something is wrong with my car.
This is the other thread that someone started about how it feels and what could possibly be wrong.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...03-maxima.html

Anyway here is the dyno..flaming may happen, but I would rather get some constructive input in this matter. My mods are listed in my Sig.. It looks like I'm running pretty lean. However how would this give me 30-50 HP and TQ less than other Maximas with the same mods.....?



OBTW...I kept getting it called the Maxi-Pad (before the run) and "Hey the car is backwards, and the engine is sideways".....fun stuff...mustangers
Were would you go to get your numbers tested?
Old May 24, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Were would you go to get your numbers tested?
See your local dealer mechanic...
Old May 24, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Although I doubt this factor would throw it off by that much, what kind of dyno was it? I've heard that mustang dyno's give out the lowest numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong?
Old May 24, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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It was a dynojet (shown in image)
He went back after it was fixed and pulled a 212hp.




Old May 25, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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My bad. Obviously, I didn't take the extra time to see that before opening my mouth. Anyway, at least it's taken care of.
Old May 25, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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My bad. Obviously, I didn't take the extra time to see that before opening my mouth. Anyway, at least it's taken care of.
lol.
Its amazing he picked up that much more power. And, I've heard the same things about those mustang dynos.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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I know...last dyno after fixing was 214hp and 236tq....woot
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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That dyno sheet is just Scary...For a 5.5 gen.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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That dyno sheet is just Scary...For a 5.5 gen.

Well I'm glad I got it resolved. I just got another dyno done.

Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Were you still planning on running Emanage Ultimate?
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
Were you still planning on running Emanage Ultimate?
If the price is right....as of right now, I have an uninstalled SAFC2
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Emanage Ultimate doesn't work really well on the 5.5 gen, since it cannot take advantage of the CVTC. Look into the TurboXS UTEC. It's more powerful and handles all the newer features of the VQ35DE.
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
Emanage Ultimate doesn't work really well on the 5.5 gen, since it cannot take advantage of the CVTC. Look into the TurboXS UTEC. It's more powerful and handles all the newer features of the VQ35DE.
I've heard about the UTEC....however I know the EU is awesome as well.....as of right now, with what I got, I'm going to use the SAFCII and what not then go from there....
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Nicee!!!! Now that looks better haha
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Thanks man...and yeah thats untuned....lulz
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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When you planning on Tuning it?
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Originally Posted by Mu_036sp
When you planning on Tuning it?

Well I got to get 350z injectors, install headers, and install my NX....once I do that...I will take it and get her tuned and get tuned dyno and nx dyno
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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...Most important..Video haha please post. i wanna see it run lol.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcMycipNrI

There is a video of my last dyno....the squeak at the end is...i dunno
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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This is crazy doesnt the directions tell you to remove these things I just put mine back on Ill have to see if I feel a difference. I never noticed a huge power loss though.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nismowolfe
This is crazy doesnt the directions tell you to remove these things I just put mine back on Ill have to see if I feel a difference. I never noticed a huge power loss though.

Originally Posted by Stormzusmc
they took out they following

Thats how its supposed to look...the instructions need to be read carefully.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Hey, my second dyno pull back in 2005 with my 2003 auto and only an Injen intake put down 210Hp/213Tq, I guess it's time to check it out with I/H/E and many other bolt-ons
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Just looked up directions on NWPs website maybe I was just thinking I could delete the canister and actuator because I read on here thats what everyone else was doing. I still dont really understand what the canister would be doing without the vias.
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Hey, my second dyno pull back in 2005 with my 2003 auto and only an Injen intake put down 210Hp/213Tq, I guess it's time to check it out with I/H/E and many other bolt-ons

I don't really have much more besides- VIAS plate, spacers, injen, and custom catback exhaust....
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nismowolfe
Just looked up directions on NWPs website maybe I was just thinking I could delete the canister and actuator because I read on here thats what everyone else was doing. I still dont really understand what the canister would be doing without the vias.
Thats a vacuum canister, which you need vacuum in an engine for it to perform properly.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormzusmc
Thats a vacuum canister, which you need vacuum in an engine for it to perform properly.
The vacuum canister is useless with the blockoff plate.

The only reason it is there is to assure there is a vac source to open up the VIAS plate. Without it, at WOT at the RPM the plate opens/closes, you would be producing no vacuum.

It's not like there's an issue with it being there, but you could just as well put a vacuum cap on the nipple on the UIM and remove the solenoid, lines, and canister. The only problem with removing the solenoid is you'll likely throw a code.

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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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The vacuum canister is useless with the blockoff plate.

The only reason it is there is to assure there is a vac source to open up the VIAS plate. Without it, at WOT at the RPM the plate opens/closes, you would be producing no vacuum.

It's not like there's an issue with it being there, but you could just as well put a vacuum cap on the nipple on the UIM and remove the solenoid, lines, and canister. The only problem with removing the solenoid is you'll likely throw a code.
Very well, thank you for chiming in as usual!

How come I was making such ****ty numbers with those parts taken off, and only a pending code no CEL?
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Originally Posted by Stormzusmc
Very well, thank you for chiming in as usual!

How come I was making such ****ty numbers with those parts taken off, and only a pending code no CEL?


As long as you had the vac nipple on the UIM capped and the solenoid plugged in, there should've been absolutely zero driveability issues or codes.

Should. Cars don't always follow the logical path, IME.
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Everything circled in red was taken out by the shop that did this (I had other work done at the same time valve cover rplc, spark plugs, spacers). The part on the left where the vacuum line is connected to the UIM was capped off. However the electrical plug was just dangling by the fuel rails unplugged and the canister was off....
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormzusmc

Everything circled in red was taken out by the shop that did this (I had other work done at the same time valve cover rplc, spark plugs, spacers). The part on the left where the vacuum line is connected to the UIM was capped off. However the electrical plug was just dangling by the fuel rails unplugged and the canister was off....
We ran Merlyn's 5.5 like that, and another combination or two while at the track messing around, never had an issue.

But all of that equipment is doing exactly the same thing now as it would laying on the floor, with the UIM capped off.

Well actually now it's purging the vacuum from the canister at the two crossover points for the VIAS plate due to the open nipple on the solenoid, but it's all the same.

Odd that it caused such issues for you.
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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I know - I was told to check vacuum...I did - and I did not have any..I check for leaks...none..once I put this shiz on then i dynoed and the outcome was from 175 to 215....
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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Yeah, makes no sense. I removed that crap when I put on the spacers (already had block off plate), it made zero difference. I just plugged the vac line.

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question... was this auto or 6spd???
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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hmmm, I thought the canister was just a charcoal canister. Back when I had my accident the body shop didn't notice that one of the nipples on the canister was snapped off. I noticed right away when I got in the car and my wideband was running 15.5. I popped th hood and heard the leak. They ordered me a new canister, but in the mean time I just broke off the other nipple and used it as a splice to hook the two hoses together for no leaks. The car ran like a champ.
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