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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Best Rotors and pads for 6th gen Calipers

Hey guys, I'm going to be doing the 6th gen "BBK" on my 00 max (front only)

I purchased calipers from an 04 maxima so now I'm looking for rotors/pads

I have heard a lot of good things about rotorpros and RTP and obviously brembo for rotors


and for pads either hawk HPS or EBC red stuff

I would liked to get the rotors dimpled (so they don't crack.. I've seen way too many pics of that!)

So which pads/rotor combinations would you recommend?

Also is it possible to use the 6th gen calipers on the 5th gen with the 13" cobra rotors?

Or maybe someone can recommend a good 2 piece rotor for the 6th gen calipers (preferably not using any brackets to move caliper over)

Thanks
Old May 25, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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just do some slotted rotors and ceramics...ceramics especially if this car is just going to be your DD car and you have no plans to put it on the track or auto-x. personally i run ceramics DD and when i track i'm going to get HP+ pads..but im still on my 5th gen fronts, but when i do the 6th gen upgrade i'm doing slotted rotors and ceramics until i get on the track or auto-x, then i'm having Hawk HP+ for that.
Old May 25, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by godlyone
Hey guys, I'm going to be doing the 6th gen "BBK" on my 00 max (front only)

I purchased calipers from an 04 maxima so now I'm looking for rotors/pads

I have heard a lot of good things about rotorpros and RTP and obviously brembo for rotors


and for pads either hawk HPS or EBC red stuff

I would liked to get the rotors dimpled (so they don't crack.. I've seen way too many pics of that!)

So which pads/rotor combinations would you recommend?

Also is it possible to use the 6th gen calipers on the 5th gen with the 13" cobra rotors?

Or maybe someone can recommend a good 2 piece rotor for the 6th gen calipers (preferably not using any brackets to move caliper over)

Thanks
Are you running the stock 5th gen SE rims? If so, the 6th gen BBK doesn't fit under them.
Old May 25, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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I have the powerslot slotted rotors and hawk HPS pads, It's great...



It looks so weird now that the front is so big and the back is so small lol...
Old May 25, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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I have aftermarket 18s, so everything should fit.

I don't really want to get slotted because I don't feel like changing brake pads more often so it's either blanks or dimpled.

Anyone else have any input?
Old May 25, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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eww dimpled....yuck...Go blanks then and I don't change my pads often at all, Don't know who said slotted rotors means more wear on pads but I haven't experienced it...
Old May 25, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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lol why "yuck"? They look the same as crossdrilled, minus the cracking.
And we all know that on a street vehicle xdrilled is just for looks anyway
Old May 26, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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I went with the RTP rotors from the GD section. Slotted and zinc coated. As far as pads are concerned, I went with Hawk HPS. Good luck on your decision.
Old May 26, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I would liked to get the rotors dimpled (so they don't crack.. I've seen way too many pics of that!)

I've been running these same 12.6 Stillen x-drilled Oem's front rotors/Hawk HPS (6yrs) as well as x-drilled rear Stillen Oem rotors (9yrs)hawk HPS and not one cracked yet! So I'm not not sure what you've seen but normal and spirited street driving won't ever crack these, only regular visits to a road course or auto-x course! Or none radius'd holes or sorry a** pads during spirited driving!

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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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for hawk hps pads
Old May 27, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizike
I went with the RTP rotors from the GD section. Slotted and zinc coated. As far as pads are concerned, I went with Hawk HPS. Good luck on your decision.
Same, but my RTP rotors are blanks. It's a nice set-up.

I also just got some Cryo-Stop rear rotors that I'm looking to try out with Hawk HPS pads. I know, that has nothing to do with a 6th Gen set-up, just saying is all.
Old May 27, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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how much are a pair 6th gen Hawk HPS Pads ?
Old May 28, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by viperboy
Are you running the stock 5th gen SE rims? If so, the 6th gen BBK doesn't fit under them.
with spacers, its said that it will
Old May 28, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Forget Hawk HPS pads, almost all the people who I talked to when i was looking for brakes fro my 3000GT VR-4 said that hawks were over rated. I was looking for a pad that could handle spirited street driving and occasional track day. I ended up getting Porterfield R4-S's and some slotted rotors, my other option was Carbotech Bobcat pads. This was for my VR-4, but on my 01 Maxima I just run premium Raybestos pads and rotors on all four corners since its just my DD and doesnt get worked all that hard.

Heres the link to Porterfield R4-S's for 6th Gen brakes. If you are intent on spending a decent amount of money on pads then get the Porterfields.
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pr...productID=3715

As for Rotors get slotted or blanks and nothing else. Dimpled rotors may not crack the way drilled however they still lose a LOT of pad contact area, and pad contact area is the only thing that actually stops your car.
Old May 28, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
how much are a pair 6th gen Hawk HPS Pads ?
Depending on where you go $60-75! check pepboys thy're clearing out their Hawk brake inventory and you can get them for $28.00 or half price! Houston pepboys are depleted!
Old May 28, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Heres what happened to a member on 3si.org with his Hawk HPS pads http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/just-did...brakes-460875/

Long story short he replaced about $600 worth of parts thinking that they were the cause of his poor braking performance (he couldnt lock up his tires) only to find out that his HPS pads had gotten hard and no longer would bed in and no longer had a decent coefficient of friction. Threw some cheap *** $19 pads on and fixed all his problems.
Old May 28, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Anyone that finds the need to be able to lock up his tires 70mph is just asking for trouble. Ragging on your brakes like that over time will eventually glaze the pads over, which will lead to poor braking performance as that guy described. This this will happen to practically any pad you can buy OE or OE upgrade. I'm very happy with my hawk brake pads, but I'm sure if I ragged on them like that guy on 3si.org, I would have problems too. He could of instantly solved his problem as well by sanding down the pads to remove the glazing and re-bedding them. This isn't a case of bad design, but more of a case of someone being too cocky and pushing the design beyond it's capability. I don't feel the least bit sorry the guy spent $600 on stuff he didn't need to. You should pay for your stupidity...I know I have for mine.

To the OP, my original vote is for brembo blanks and Hawk HPS pads. On my previous car I had slotted/x-drilled. Over time the slots will just eat up the pads, the x-drill could crack. I'm not so sure about dimples. I really don't see what they would buy you other than the cosmetics.

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Old May 29, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Anyone that finds the need to be able to lock up his tires 70mph is just asking for trouble. Ragging on your brakes like that over time will eventually glaze the pads over, which will lead to poor braking performance as that guy described. This this will happen to practically any pad you can buy OE or OE upgrade. I'm very happy with my hawk brake pads, but I'm sure if I ragged on them like that guy on 3si.org, I would have problems too. He could of instantly solved his problem as well by sanding down the pads to remove the glazing and re-bedding them. This isn't a case of bad design, but more of a case of someone being too cocky and pushing the design beyond it's capability. I don't feel the least bit sorry the guy spent $600 on stuff he didn't need to. You should pay for your stupidity...I know I have for mine.

To the OP, my original vote is for brembo blanks and Hawk HPS pads. On my previous car I had slotted/x-drilled. Over time the slots will just eat up the pads, the x-drill could crack. I'm not so sure about dimples. I really don't see what they would buy you other than the cosmetics.

S
Well i dont recommend randomly stomping on your brakes for the hell of it, but getting on your brakes hard on multiple occasions is kind of part of 'spirited driving.' Simply put a true 'quality pad' WOULD NOT GLAZE over under heavy use. Hawk glaze over and are therefore NOT a quality pad IMO, and that's the opinion of my friends who spend a decent amount of time on the track.

I also stood on my VR-4's brakes damned hard at 120mph many times in one day i guess that means i was askin for 'trouble...' (Open track day at Thunderhill Raceway before anyone gets all preachy about speeding on the street)

My point is this...If you are looking for a decent pad that will support abuse of canyon runs, autocross and even light use on a track, Hawk HPS doesnt perform as well as the competition (Porterfield, or carbotech for example).

If you are looking for a decent pad for your daily driver that wont really ever see much beyond an occasional jaunt on some back roads Hawk HPS is a wast of money pure and simple...in fact any 'performance pad' is. Thats why I run performance pads on my VR-4 and Raybesots pads on my Maxima.
Old May 29, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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That's cool, and I can respect your opinion. I honestly disagree that they aren't a quality pad, because I've had a good experience with these pads. To be honest, you're the first person I've seen that doesn't like them. However I do agree that when you start talking about auto-x, or running laps around the track...these pads are probably not a very good choice and there is certainly better.

Though the reference to that guy....that was horrid man! Just reading some of that just had all sort of stupid written on it. Definitely not a good choice of example to use in an argument!

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Old May 29, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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I've seen similar threads on evolutionm.net about Hawk HPS pads glazing over as well, but it seems that most people with Maximas seem to have had decent experience with their HPS pads, whether it is for daily driving or occasional auto-x or track day. I know I really like my HPS in my daily driving. Is it overkill for daily street driving? Most likely. Then again so are most performance mods we choose right? All in all, everyone has different preferences and purposes, so I think we can all agree to disagree on certain things.
Old May 29, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maximase86
To the OP, my original vote is for brembo blanks and Hawk HPS pads. On my previous car I had slotted/x-drilled. Over time the slots will just eat up the pads, the x-drill could crack. I'm not so sure about dimples. I really don't see what they would buy you other than the cosmetics.

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got the calipers in the mail... damn these things are big! now i have to clean and paint them.

I would love to get brembo blanks, but they are discontinued for the 6th gen fronts.

2 options now are either blanks or dimpled (probably rotorpros as he gave best price and longest warranty)
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