The NWP Engineering Engine Torque Link - Interest Thread
06-05-2009, 10:51 AM
#42
Well the engine compartments of the A33 and A33B are identical in shape and size, so it should fit without an issue (assuming of course the same bolt holes are there, but most likely they are).
If you want to send me a pic of the bolt locations you're using, I can get you some measurements for the A32.
If you want to send me a pic of the bolt locations you're using, I can get you some measurements for the A32.
Thanks for your help. I don't want to rush into the 00-01 Maxima just yet. Once the product is released, I will personally test fit it in the 00-01 Maxima. If it fits to my liking, then I will release it for that vehicle.
I'm still not completely convinced. What mods does the test car have? Like I said, the idea is a good one and of course the bar works but I'm still sure there must be a con side to this.
I would like to see this on a 5.5 gen making 240+whp, and putting down at least low 13 second times. I wanna know the condition of the frame/chassis after 1-2 years, or like 50-100 passes. Instead of an engine tie down, I'd much prefer an engine damper that still allows for some movement or has a shock to absorb the movement.
I would like to see this on a 5.5 gen making 240+whp, and putting down at least low 13 second times. I wanna know the condition of the frame/chassis after 1-2 years, or like 50-100 passes. Instead of an engine tie down, I'd much prefer an engine damper that still allows for some movement or has a shock to absorb the movement.
The 02 Maxima 6spd test vehicle is probably not laying down 240whp though. It has the following modifications:
Intake
NWP Spacers
Fidanza Flywheel
Testpipe
2.5" Catback Exhaust
350z HR Clutch
05 Sentra SpecV transmission gearset and final drive
It has been tested for several hundred hard driven miles on the street though. We plan to test this even further to make sure the Torque Link can hold up well with higher HP engines (350+HP). It won't be hard to find another test vehicle. But with all the testing we have conducted over the past several months, the only con would be a small increase in vibrations, which is expected. There have been absolutely no frame damage what so ever. And of course, I am keeping a close eye on this because I will always do everything I can to make sure every single customer is happy with the product and design quality.
06-05-2009, 11:05 AM
#43
Hmm i am certainly liking it more after seeing where is attaches. One more question Aaron92SE. The old car I was speaking of was a 00-05 Celica btw, and the other problem the rod caused was while it wouldn't let the engine move forward or backward it would actually cause the engine and tranny to twist sideways in the engine bay. Is there a hint of this at all when installed on 5.5 gens?? Your right about the solid mounting point though, that area on the car is beefy.
On my 92 Maxima 3.5 Swap, my stock transmission mounts are filled with PU as well as the 4th gen Maxima engine mounts I am using. The front mount on the timing cover is a solid metal bracket. The engine does still twist and I need to design another torque link for my particular engine swap. The swap was completed just about a month ago. So I'm still working on tuning the engine. But as soon as I can, I will need to make some kind of torque link for my setup. My old VE has two different style torque links that worked great. One was a REALLY tight ratchet strap connecting the AC compressor mounting bracket to the front tow anchor point. And the other was a beefy strip of metal connecting the engine to a bolt on the crossmember. I have seen 3rd gen crossmembers break due to excessive torque and wheel hop, so that was not a good design for the 5.5 gen. That is why I decided to mount it straight to the engine bay frame. Must more solid!
06-05-2009, 01:28 PM
#44
06-05-2009, 01:58 PM
#45
It's ok. All I can do is test this as much as it possibly can be tested in the current test vehicle. And we also plan to test this further in much higher HP engines. But having no engine movement is best for performance as long as the mounting locations are strong enough, which is your main concern.
The 02 Maxima 6spd test vehicle is probably not laying down 240whp though. It has the following modifications:
Intake
NWP Spacers
Fidanza Flywheel
Testpipe
2.5" Catback Exhaust
350z HR Clutch
05 Sentra SpecV transmission gearset and final drive
It has been tested for several hundred hard driven miles on the street though. We plan to test this even further to make sure the Torque Link can hold up well with higher HP engines (350+HP). It won't be hard to find another test vehicle. But with all the testing we have conducted over the past several months, the only con would be a small increase in vibrations, which is expected. There have been absolutely no frame damage what so ever. And of course, I am keeping a close eye on this because I will always do everything I can to make sure every single customer is happy with the product and design quality.
The 02 Maxima 6spd test vehicle is probably not laying down 240whp though. It has the following modifications:
Intake
NWP Spacers
Fidanza Flywheel
Testpipe
2.5" Catback Exhaust
350z HR Clutch
05 Sentra SpecV transmission gearset and final drive
It has been tested for several hundred hard driven miles on the street though. We plan to test this even further to make sure the Torque Link can hold up well with higher HP engines (350+HP). It won't be hard to find another test vehicle. But with all the testing we have conducted over the past several months, the only con would be a small increase in vibrations, which is expected. There have been absolutely no frame damage what so ever. And of course, I am keeping a close eye on this because I will always do everything I can to make sure every single customer is happy with the product and design quality.
06-05-2009, 03:31 PM
#47
Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Most autos do not suffer from wheel hop, but they do still have traction issues.
06-06-2009, 02:54 PM
#50
thank you aaron for answering not only my ?'s but everyones...as always you run your buisness in a very professional way... that being said... is there a total number being produced?or a running list or ..? either way... i guess ill start it.. if it doesnt belong here then mods can delete my post 
1.Mist Max2000
1.Mist Max2000
06-06-2009, 05:16 PM
#51
thank you aaron for answering not only my ?'s but everyones...as always you run your buisness in a very professional way... that being said... is there a total number being produced?or a running list or ..? either way... i guess ill start it.. if it doesnt belong here then mods can delete my post
1.Mist Max2000
1.Mist Max2000
06-06-2009, 09:13 PM
#52
Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
1) I have had my engine in my 3rd gen (VE30DE) locked down 100% of the time for the past 5+ years. So if you like how it drives on the street, then yes, you can leave it connected.
2) For those people out there that really do not want increased vibrations, then you will probably need to disconnect the torque link on the street. But the test vehicle owner (SurraTT), was barely able to notice increased vibrations even when he really tightened the engine down. This was tested on an 02 Maxima 6spd.
3) Yes, full installation instructions with pictures will be included in every kit.
4) I will see if I can dig up a reference pic of the torque link installed. It will just be a very rough prototype, but it will give you an idea how it bolts up.
5) No modifications needed AT ALL. You simply bolt up and go.
2) For those people out there that really do not want increased vibrations, then you will probably need to disconnect the torque link on the street. But the test vehicle owner (SurraTT), was barely able to notice increased vibrations even when he really tightened the engine down. This was tested on an 02 Maxima 6spd.
3) Yes, full installation instructions with pictures will be included in every kit.
4) I will see if I can dig up a reference pic of the torque link installed. It will just be a very rough prototype, but it will give you an idea how it bolts up.
5) No modifications needed AT ALL. You simply bolt up and go.
06-07-2009, 05:15 AM
#56
You know if you ever move your shop to florida and come back down this way, I'd be more then happy to be your test vehicle
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On a good note, like others have said its nice to see someone putting effort into our cars. Nice work. I'm still awaiting to get the block plate and spacers, not I'll await the word on these as well. The picture looks like thats a good spot to have that torque end link.
. On a good note, like others have said its nice to see someone putting effort into our cars. Nice work. I'm still awaiting to get the block plate and spacers, not I'll await the word on these as well. The picture looks like thats a good spot to have that torque end link.
06-07-2009, 08:54 PM
#60
Vibrations with the ES mounts aren't as bad as people imagine. It is still stiff without this mod, but this would make the motor even more firm. Does it really matter though when all you have to do is undo 1 bolt to not have it attached? Track purposes is what my main use will be. If it's not devastating, then I'll probably run it permanently.
06-08-2009, 08:33 AM
#62
The benefits of the ES mounts are undeniable.
Mine's a daily driver, so I'll just lurk here waiting for feedback on the ETL's effect on vibration. If the overall consensus describes vibration as a minor compromise, I'll be on-board too.
Mine's a daily driver, so I'll just lurk here waiting for feedback on the ETL's effect on vibration. If the overall consensus describes vibration as a minor compromise, I'll be on-board too.
06-08-2009, 09:10 AM
#63
You realize you are talking about a difference of about 20 whp between a 240 whp car and the test vehicle...that is not going to change much of anything. If you were talking about 50+whp then maybe, 100+ whp then definitely, but 20 whp is not going to change anything..
06-08-2009, 10:28 AM
#64
Haha. Sorry. I think you will have to fab up something on your own on that VQ35 Sentra!
Yes, 20-50whp isn't going to make much of a difference. I would like to personally test this on a 400+whp turbocharged or nitrous 6spd. It's the harsh shifts into the next gear and when boost kicks in or when nitrous get sprayed when the engine wants to jump out of the engine bay!
125 shot here......
06-08-2009, 11:16 AM
#66
That's why we designed it so easy to unbolt. Takes only a few seconds. All you will need is a 19mm or 3/4" open ended wrench to loosen the lock nuts, remove tension on the torque link by turning it a few times, then remove the safety clip and then the pin holding the torque link to the bracket. It should only take about 20 seconds to remove the torque link.
Haha. Sorry. I think you will have to fab up something on your own on that VQ35 Sentra!
Yes, 20-50whp isn't going to make much of a difference. I would like to personally test this on a 400+whp turbocharged or nitrous 6spd. It's the harsh shifts into the next gear and when boost kicks in or when nitrous get sprayed when the engine wants to jump out of the engine bay!
Haha. Sorry. I think you will have to fab up something on your own on that VQ35 Sentra!
Yes, 20-50whp isn't going to make much of a difference. I would like to personally test this on a 400+whp turbocharged or nitrous 6spd. It's the harsh shifts into the next gear and when boost kicks in or when nitrous get sprayed when the engine wants to jump out of the engine bay!
06-08-2009, 03:26 PM
#69
Booo 
Unfortunately not. I won't be able to be there this year for numerous reasons. Car's not done, lease is up, and moving that weekend. Maybe we should do a Maxus 09.5......... Sorry, hope to see you there next year. I still need to come up and check out that beast of yours brotha!
Unfortunately not. I won't be able to be there this year for numerous reasons. Car's not done, lease is up, and moving that weekend. Maybe we should do a Maxus 09.5......... Sorry, hope to see you there next year. I still need to come up and check out that beast of yours brotha!
06-09-2009, 08:35 AM
#72
Booo
Unfortunately not. I won't be able to be there this year for numerous reasons. Car's not done, lease is up, and moving that weekend. Maybe we should do a Maxus 09.5......... Sorry, hope to see you there next year. I still need to come up and check out that beast of yours brotha!
Unfortunately not. I won't be able to be there this year for numerous reasons. Car's not done, lease is up, and moving that weekend. Maybe we should do a Maxus 09.5......... Sorry, hope to see you there next year. I still need to come up and check out that beast of yours brotha!
Any chance this could possibly fit a 02-04 Altima? If so, I'm all in!
Took some pictures:
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Guess not.
If so, I'm all in!Took some pictures:
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Guess not.
Thanks for the pics though!
06-09-2009, 08:58 AM
#73
Absolutely, I look forward to it. Should be a good time. I'm sure I'll make it to The Rock this year. Hope to see you there.
06-09-2009, 12:57 PM
#75
Gotcha. Didn't know how far away you were from there. I'm about an hour and a half away myself. Either way, we'll make it work.
06-09-2009, 03:59 PM
#77
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That's why we designed it so easy to unbolt. Takes only a few seconds. All you will need is a 19mm or 3/4" open ended wrench to loosen the lock nuts, remove tension on the torque link by turning it a few times, then remove the safety clip and then the pin holding the torque link to the bracket. It should only take about 20 seconds to remove the torque link.
06-10-2009, 12:06 PM
#79
It's kind of silly, I have been sketching some bracket to lock my 2k1 engine. Back in the old time we use to chain the engine so it doesn't moved and I was thinking of doing it for the max but the chain look hideous so I have started sketching some bracket in 3ds max. If your kit work for my 2k1, then count me in and my bolted bracket will never take life. Lol
06-10-2009, 12:53 PM
#80
I'm giving consideration to this ETL because of the improvements realized by solid poly mounts. More of that would be nice.
(I'm all for improved shifting... now if you could magically make the infamous 3rd-gear-crunch go away, then you'd really have something!)