shobuddy

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Rear brakes on 2003 Max were squeaking so I took it to the shop. They "relined" the brakes ($190). I didn't think shops did that anymore. Is this still common practice? If so, are the quality of relined brakes the same/comparable to new brakes?

Also the rear brakes are disc/rotor, not drum, on all 5th+ gen Maxima's, right?

n3985

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You can't align disc brakes, I think you just got ripped off $190 for someone to apply anti-squeal to your pads

However I hope they actually changed your pads and/or re-surfaced your rotors.

vball_max

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WTF does relined mean???

I am guessing planing the rotors and new pads maybe??? If you can find out the details of what they did, it would be more helpful.

If it was $190 for just planing the rotors, you got

shobuddy

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This is relining: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...e-relining.htm

From the article: "Brake relining just means replacing the friction pads."

Car has 92k miles on it and the rear brakes have never been replaced so I imagine it was time. I just had never heard of "relining".

n3985

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So relining aka change brake pads?

I thought you meant align, as in drum brakes need to be adjusted once in a while.

Either way $190 for pad change is steep.

vball_max

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Ok...so they replaced the pads......

I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for in this thread, but yes you need to change the pads when they get worn. It is common and 92k is a long time for one set of pads.

The quality depends on what kind of pads they replaced them with.

shobuddy

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I would like to know the difference between replacing the pads and "relining" them. And whether relining (vs replacing) the pads is common practice. I had never heard of relining pads till I saw my workorder. Keep in mind these are the rear brakes.

Nelsito65

Looks like there is no difference between replacing tha pads and "relining" them (from the artlicle's 4th paragraph: "Brake relining just means replacing the friction pads"). Looks like a fancy term so you can leave the shop thinking they actually earned those $190.

vball_max

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Thats what it sounds like to me.

mtrai760

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Whole lotta fail up in here.

Relining the pads means that you use the old backing plate, and bond a new friction surface to it. It's not just a brake pad swap. This is typically done in the Trucking industry, which almost exclusively uses drum brakes, but not so much in the automotive industry. It's much cheaper now to just replace the pads, than pay for a shop to reline them. Quality is going to depend on the shop that did the work, and what manufactures friction surface they used, though Raybesto's is common.

Nelsito65

^^I stand corrected. I remember when I used to buy brake shoes, the autopart store would add a core charge that I would get back in exchange for the old shoes. Aparently they could use those same backing plates to add new "linings" and essentially producing new brake shoes for drum brake systems.

fflint_18

Chances are they did not reline them.

They probably just placed new or maybe remanned pads on the calipers and turned in the old ones to be remanned. And that's even a stretch because you don't see remanned disc brakes much.

Chances are that's just the term they used on the bill.

As stated above relining used to happen allot with drum brakes because they would rivet on new friction service. The cost of a curved surface drum brake pad is much higher than a piece of flat metal can can be easily and cheaply shaped for a disc brake.

Most disc pads are bonded with glue and extreme heat to get a bond that will stand up.

shobuddy

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Thanks, this would be the most logical explanation.