mist max2000

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Hey im in the market for a wideband,.. and looking for the best bang for the buck,..hopefully in the 200 dollar range,.. and im going to be using this with an SAFCII cattman headers, and a 2.5" custom exhaust with a test pipe..

i remember someone , either sparks or knightz ,.. said there is a good one that isnt the most accurate but you can data log on it and its reasonable,... which is huge for me...

so.. please let me know what your using and how you like it,..also where you mounted it,.. i think i might weld it in the test pipe just for the ease of installation...

rroderiques77

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I like my Innovate. I don't have the RPM harness, therefore, I can't datalog. However, it is very accurate.

essential1

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Where's Monceff?

shadyonedeath

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I also have innovate LC-1. Accurate, does the job, but no data logging.

MoncefA33

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Right here

I've got an AEM that's hooked up to my piggyback controller for datalogging.

Since you're running an SAFC2 (no datalogging/wideband interaface), I suggest running the Zeitronix ZT-2. It's a touch over $200, reasonably accurate and can datalog to your laptop, and log RPM as well so you can tune yourself (without any accessories). http://www.zeitronix.com/ for moar info.

An alternative option is the Innovate Motorsports LM-1 with RPM converter, but this is around $385 last time I checked.

tedo007

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I got AEM UEGO for 180 shipped from ebay.

mist max2000

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thanks for the fast response everyone...

great info.. im going to go do some reading on the ZT-2,.. the selling point for me is the datalog/rpm..thanks..



does the uego datalog to a laptop with no additional parts? persay.. also.. im not a huge fan of the gauge they use with the light that goes back and forth that looks like something doc would have put in the back to the future car,..

mist max2000

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sounds good to me...

now sorry in advance for the dumb Q's monacf ...

I dont NEED the gauge.. if im going to be data logging on my comp and tuning off the charts i make,..is that right? because its 400 with the gauge.. ehhhh ...

do you think any digital a/f gauge would be able to be tapped in or only their product...

also.. any scare in looking for a used one? or should i just lay out the 280 and buy it new w/o the gauage..

tonedef

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Innovate Motorsports FTW!

tedo007

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There is cable you can make for like 4 bucks and log it. There is How To's on google.

MoncefA33

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1) You don't need the gauge, if you're gonna do that. In fact when I tune I read the AFR datalog on my laptop.

2) AFR gauges aren't universal. AEM UEGO and Innovate LC-1 harnesses/connectors are different, for example.

3) I bought mine used, they're just hard to find used.

NmexMAX

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PLX R-300. Fairly sweet. You can hook a shatload of different shat to it and monitor in real time.

Not exactly cheap, and IIRC, they've replaced it with something else, newer/cooler.

ZT-2 for you I would think

knight_yyz

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+1 for the zeitronix

jowo9

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Ok, I'm gonna bump this cuz I have a question (somewhat noobish) about the Zeitronix ZT-2 wideband. I want a WB that I can datalog with. I was thinking Innovate LC-1, but I don't want to have to tether a bunch of other crap to it (auxbox or whatever) to get the datalogging capabilities. So I'm considering the ZT-2 instead... now here's my question: with the ZT-2 do you simply have to splice into the RPM wire of the ECU (the same as with my VAFC II) to get RPM vs. AFR datalogging? Basically what I'm asking is: how does the ZT-2 get the RPM signal from the car? Thanks for helping me out ... I've had all my bolt-ons for a while, and I'm just getting into tuning, and want to be able to street tune it myself, and not JUST get it done at the dyno place

knight_yyz

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yup, just splice into the tach wire behind the cluster. the software with the zt-2 will log rpm vs afr for you. Very simple.

jowo9

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Behind the cluster? Wouldn't it be the same to splice into the tach wire that you splice into for the VAFC off the ECU? Like into the wire on pin #34 in this diagram? Would that work too or do I have to splice into the wire behind the gauges? Thanks.

knight_yyz

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cluster is a hell of a lot easier to get at than the ECU, your choice though

NmexMAX

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And tapping more than 1 signal from the same ECU wire usually doesn't make things very happy. I've noticed this with the ever so sensitive TPS.

Go with the tach wire behind the cluster.

jowo9

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Ok which one is the tach wire behind the gauges? Do you have a diagram?

Chris Gregg

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Just throwing my .02 cents out there. Avoid PLX. My personal experience has been they are crap. Their customer service is even worse. Felt it needed to be said.

tonedef

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innovate motorsports by miles... check out ebay...

jowo9

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Anyone? Knight or NmexMAX? D'you know which wire behind the cluster is the Tach wire?
Oh, and I think I'm gonna go the Zeitronix Zt-2 route. I like that it has rpm-sensing and datalogging capabilities without buying the extra stuff (auxbox, etc).
Orrr... Let's say I get the Innovate LC-1. Can I just get the SSI-4 and have rpm datalogging capabilities?

jowo9

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HA! I found it. So, I'm gonna post it, just in case anyone else is wondering how to wire up the Tach wire on their WB behind the gauges instead of near the ECU. I downloaded a copy of the 2002 FSM, and found out that the Tach signal wire is Pin #16 in the following diagram from the FSM (just in case anyone ever wants to know... now the info is at least out there)

NmexMAX

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I will add this to the VAFC sticky .. thanks JaeDouble yoo.

jowo9

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No problem

jowo9

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I have a question regarding my Zeitronix WB. Where is the best place to splice the power & ground wires? I emailed Zeitronix and they said to splice into the ECU's power and ground, but I'm a bit reluctant to do that because I'm wiring up my VAFCII to the ECU. Anyone have any suggestions? Where did you wire your WBs to?