GAB

 

Ryan has a point: GAB is the best bang for the buck.

Or for the price of a coat hanger, if you want to look at it that way.

 

so no one sees any validity or comparison regarding the velocity stack. previous to this article i thought it was here-say and marketing ploys. But velocity stacks have been around in the muscle car world forever and as the article shows, The proof really does exist that 1) the SRI is not the top performer (in all cases) and 2) The velocity stack in addition to the CAI the best mod for intakes.

 

JWT POP has one, and that's why I use it.

 

I don't have anything to add on the velocity stack matter but if you are on the fence about an intake and not sure what to do or what route to take I suggest just doing the GAB. All it requires is a thick style hanger, some cutters, and slight elbow grease (bending that hanger could take a toll on you ). Test it out and see if you like it. The GAB is basically a stepping stone. The minimal gains you get from an actual intake I would say are halved to the GAB(no proof just throwing it out there). If you have a GAB and are needing more get an intake. If you do a GAB and it's just not for you go stock. or just keep it!

 

GAB gave me 9whp.

 

Doesn't the Apexi dry-filter incorporate the air flow principles of a velocity stack by design?

And isn't that why the Apexi is marketed as a couple HP bump over the K&N pop-charger?

 

Over say a Stillen?JWT? Hmm ...

 

I meant that usually because when someone does the GAB they don't replace most of the intake setup leaving the tubes and everything stock. So the gains felt, which I agree there are some, are in between stock and a WAI.

Also, maybe you having the 3.5 and I had the 3.0 had something to do with different gain amounts.

 

so what you total gain? JWT Pop means that Jim wolf filter, right?

 

is this filter any good for a short ram? or compared to a JWT pOp?

 

I went from 210 - 233 with lots of area under the curve with the addition of a POP charger & timing advance (+2º from dealer) only.

Here's the JW/Stillen

 

isn't your MAF sensor going to f up because theres no actual filter?

 

That's just a pic of the stack, the filter sits on top of that.

 

I need to get a velocity stack ASAP...

 

NmexMAX, does the Apexi incorporate the air flow principles of a velocity stack by design? Isn't that what sets it apart from other pop-chargers?

 

And while we are on the subjuct of velocity stacks, whats a good place to get one from? And how big can we go before we get too rediculous.

 

I have no clue on the Apex'i .. I'd say just get Stillen?JWT/Apex'i .. whatever works

 

Can you post a pic with the complete setup?

 

 

the apexi filter only has a small filter , whereas the velocity stack is 6" wide at the bellmouth so theoretically it should work a little better

 

you gained 23hp at the wheels because of the intake + timing or because you tuned it?

I don't believe any intake will net you 23hp at the wheels on a vq35de....

 

injen cold air intake ftw!!!!!
. LMAO!!

 

What do u guys think about the Injen RD Series Cold Air Intake RD1935P??

 

i will give you a pass cause ur only at 10 posts, but searching is still best new youngster, you buy injen moreso for the name as its not a "true" cold air because its behind the radiator (hot air) just make your own or read this thread and see what is out...

 

if you position it correctly it doesn't sit behind the rad fwiw.

 

Got some dyno charts of that?

 

heard injen is bad..i dont know though, I did the GAB on mine.

 

yes

 

<----- misses the good old days with 5th gen was actually moderated...

 

Go with Injen! you cant go wrong for $400 you get like 50hp to the wheels plus they give you a sticker that adds at least another 5! Not to mention it is the best intake if you want to bang out some NOS!

 

Ah, that's what I always thought. I just needed some confirmation with all this talk about velocity stacks.

Puppetmaster pops in every now and then for some cleanup. I think he does a great job when he's around. But overall, I agree the 5th gen forum could benefit from more management. Somebody constant and even-handed... I've been thinking 2slow would be a good candidate.

 

You know me, of course I do. It's in my dyno thread, or one of my dyno threads. Too early for me to be digging them up, since it be a

The GAB was dyno'd on the same day, the JWT was dynoed about 3 months later using th same CF.

I dyno'd the effects of the midpipe too a while back .. 's




No tuning, the only difference was the day, maybe that played into it.

 

you have to admit 23whp is a huge gain...

 

I think that they got a super high, rpm fan that blew alot of air in to the intake for him to gain 23whp. even then.

 

Freaked me out for sure.


Headers in all runs.


Stock airbox~210

GAB ~220

JWT (x2) + 17º BTDC ~230+

 

Did you make that Dyno with Paint or photoshop?
ahahahah

 

I prefer paint, but I just had some coffee so ... yeah..


My KS was being sensitive that day, timing was all over the place.

 

even looking at the dyno sheet, it still doesn't make any sense. in all my years playing with machines, ive never seen an intake net you 23whp. i mean, not even V8's see those gains with an just an intake.
i guess there is a first for everything.

 

whats jwt x2? and you had headers already installed but no intake?