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Old 10-29-2011, 12:32 PM
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Difference in LSD 5th gen and 5.5

Is there a difference in the LSD in the 5th compared to the LSD in the 5.5 if so what are they thanks!
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i *think* the 5th gen is a viscous type, where as the 5.5 is a helical and the 5.5 is better..
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2002-03 models only comes in HLSD?
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Originally Posted by locknuts27
2002-03 models only comes in HLSD?
in the 5.5 gen yes, it was also offered in the 6th gen, i think up to 06
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You can get the 2002 2003 without the HLSD of course, if that's what you're asking, but Hotshot is correct, the 2000/2001 LSD is a VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Diff) and the 2002/2003 is a HLSD (Helical Limited Slip Diff), just to confirm.
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
You can get the 2002 2003 without the HLSD of course, if that's what you're asking, but Hotshot is correct, the 2000/2001 LSD is a VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Diff) and the 2002/2003 is a HLSD (Helical Limited Slip Diff), just to confirm.
How can you tell if an 00-01 has VLSD? Is there a specific letter in the trans code that's stamped on the firewall plate?
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So it looks like a V or W after the tranny code denotes the Viscous Differential.
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Can someone fill me in properly as what is the benefit of a LSD transmission?
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Originally Posted by L36
Can someone fill me in properly as what is the benefit of a LSD transmission?
Is that a serious question? I cant tell
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Is that a serious question? I cant tell
If id known i would not ask, this is why such forums exist.

Quit being a smart *** and answer the question.
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
So it looks like a V or W after the tranny code denotes the Viscous Differential.
Mine with it being a manual would have the V if it was LSD, but it's an A. My car is fully loaded minus the LSD
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Originally Posted by L36
If id known i would not ask, this is why such forums exist.

Quit being a smart *** and answer the question.
You can always Google "limited slip differential" and you would get a ton of information. It's good practice to research first, and then ask questions if you still can't find what you're looking for.
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there is a couple threads out there about it and ya the 2000-2001 were only VLSD i cud be wrong about that so dont quote me but the HLSD which i remember just means that when u peel out burn out whatever both of ur front tires will leave the mark instead of the VLSD which will mainly only have one tire mark

forgot to mention HLSD also makes sure when u do peel out your car isnt all over the place and keeps u straight
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Originally Posted by 026spd
there is a couple threads out there about it and ya the 2000-2001 were only VLSD i cud be wrong about that so dont quote me but the HLSD which i remember just means that when u peel out burn out whatever both of ur front tires will leave the mark instead of the VLSD which will mainly only have one tire mark
you are correct that you are wrong
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I don't see any transaxle codes that end with b or w on that list.... Why I am not understanding?
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Originally Posted by colind94
I don't see any transaxle codes that end with b or w on that list.... Why I am not understanding?
Edit* v or w.
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Originally Posted by colind94
I don't see any transaxle codes that end with b or w on that list.... Why I am not understanding?
Psssst. Look at the asterisks.
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Originally Posted by L36
If id known i would not ask, this is why such forums exist.

Quit being a smart *** and answer the question.
Forums like this exists for a variety of reasons.

Spoon-feeding petulant members who can't Google isn't one of them.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:44 AM
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HLSD>VLSD
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
HLSD>VLSD
Where are you getting your info from. Viscous is a much better brand. Even the new z and the 07+ sport g35s also have viscous.
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
Where are you getting your info from. Viscous is a much better brand. Even the new z and the 07+ sport g35s also have viscous.
Incorrect that viscous lsd is better then an helical lsd. Yes lots of the new nissan vehicles use them however majority of the people also swap the vlsd out for a clutch type lsd. Reason being is that the vlsd is speed sensitive where the hlsd is torque based. Once the fluid heats up to a certain point, the vlsd becomes useless. Also the higher the mileage on a vlsd, the more it starts to act like an open diff.

The reason why the HLSD is better especially for a FWD vehicle is due to the nature that it is dependent on torque which helps with torque steer.
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
Incorrect that viscous lsd is better then an helical lsd. Yes lots of the new nissan vehicles use them however majority of the people also swap the vlsd out for a clutch type lsd. Reason being is that the vlsd is speed sensitive where the hlsd is torque based. Once the fluid heats up to a certain point, the vlsd becomes useless. Also the higher the mileage on a vlsd, the more it starts to act like an open diff.

The reason why the HLSD is better especially for a FWD vehicle is due to the nature that it is dependent on torque which helps with torque steer.
The 300zx TT diff was viscous... And those are bullet proof ! This viscous is better for drag racing, maybe for road racing the HLSD might be better..
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
Also the higher the mileage on a vlsd, the more it starts to act like an open diff.
Not saying your wrong, but a friend of mine has a 96 I30 with the vlsd 5MT and he just rolled over 200,000 miles on the odo and the vlsd works just as good as another one with only 40k.
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
Where are you getting your info from. Viscous is a much better brand. Even the new z and the 07+ sport g35s also have viscous.
Just because the new cars come with it, doesn't mean at all that its the better option. Name me a true production sports car that runs a VLSD and I'll believe you. Nor is viscous a "brand", its a type of differential that uses a special fluid which solidifies when in motion (i.e. when one wheel is spinning and the other is not).

The sealed fluid in the viscous differentials is know to lose its "viscosity" after a certain period of time as the car ages, thus redering the LSD portion useless. The only way to fix that is to replace the diff or to have a mechanical type LSD in the first place. This is common on the Mitsubishi Eclipses that came in AWD and are nearing at least 13 years old. They would not perform nearly as well as a similarly aged audi with a quattro system in slippery or snowy conditions.
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
the hlsd is torque based
Is the HLSD made by Torsen or is it similar in design?
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
You can get the 2002 2003 without the HLSD of course, if that's what you're asking, but Hotshot is correct, the 2000/2001 LSD is a VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Diff) and the 2002/2003 is a HLSD (Helical Limited Slip Diff), just to confirm.
My question was based on LSD tranny. Wasn't sure if 02-03 model came either VLSD and or HLSD. But I have my answer now!
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Forums like this exists for a variety of reasons.

Spoon-feeding petulant members who can't Google isn't one of them.
This^

I wasn't trying to be a **** man, but really? LSD is SO OLD, you need to look that up. That's like asking what a spark plug does.

Originally Posted by locknuts27
My question was based on LSD tranny. Wasn't sure if 02-03 model came either VLSD and or HLSD. But I have my answer now!
Glad we could help!















As far as the discussion on VLSD vs. HLSD, I would say the HLSD is the proven technology. VLSD has been experimented with, and is an incredible diff. It has characteristics that make is far superior to HLSD, but as stated, the fluid does deteriorate over time in some applicaitons.

This however, is not due to the VLSD design. It's due to the manufacturers cheaping out on the Viscous fluid coupling. The VLSD is already expensive, and to get a really good one is even more expensive. The VLSD outperforms the HLSD, plain and simple, but it's more expensive to build it properly.

At least, this is what I've come to conclude about the VLSD, and it's ON/OFF use in the car market and racing applications.
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
Is the HLSD made by Torsen or is it similar in design?
I believe the Torsen diff is an HLSD design. The only other HLSD diff design that I know of is the Detroit Tru-Trak. Used in front axles on 4x4 trucks. I put one in my 79 Bronco along with a Detroit-Locker (ratcheting diff) in the rear. All 3 of these are the aftermarket mfr brand names, associated with off road/racing applications. But I think Torsen licenses out their design for OEM use as well.
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