5th gen Off Topic Thread (Official Ghustle thread v1)
One thing i can say having a sc'd DE-K is if the motor has been maintained properly throughout its life it won't hurt it. My car being a perfect example. The previous owner of my Max put the blower on at 120k and it has 175k now and doesn't leak or burn any oil. It's not my daily now but up until a few weeks ago i drove it 80 miles a day to and from work and it never skipped a beat. On a Mustang Dyno it made 328whp and 301 tq and had a huge boost leak and the sc belt was slipping from 5700 rpm's on up. It should have made peak at 6400. I wasn't happy about the boost leak and the belt slip but that being said even the guy running the dyno was really impressed with the numbers considering. And i drive this car extremly hard the majority of the time.
Back in my day when we ran the street track everyone had the 3lb maxwellhouse coffee can with 12ft of copper coiled in it attached to the fuel line and when we would track we would fill the can with ice or a chunk of dryice for them extra ponies
well yea man, people still get a bag of ice and ll that, i just wont do it only t the IAT, im too much of a bish i guess lol
The boost motor wouldnt' go in for some time, still need to collect a few more boost items, mainly, the head unit.
So it does make sense to do it as you say for a bit, good sense, thanks kindly for htis idea CJ, it's a great one.
My apologies. The reason I'm not getting a roots system is the noise. they sound AWEFUL. Like shoot me in the face aweful.
If I wanted ***** out power I'd go TT anyways. But reliability, again, plays in.
before i did the 6MT swap, i tried to think past just starting and a fellow female orger was the reason i kinda started, she said just start, once you start you will be so far in that before you know it that project is over... the hardest thing to do is to commit but once you buy the motor, before you know it you have a boosted G,
Normally, you'd be correct though, starting is always the hardest part. For me, it's the easiest. It's finding time to finish that proves impossible
another question?, why not just boost the motor you have now??? @ $2600 you can have a pretty nice start on a boosted setup on your regular motor, ive spoken to a couple of guys who boost those motors and heard otherwise... im not sure what your goal is bro but if its some kind of 500rwhp boosted car ill tell you to save yourself the hassle, if its a reliable 380-420whp boosted G then cool but if its some ground breaking "talked about" G then man more power to you but ill tell people to save the $$$ and invest that in a toyota motor
Again, I already have 2 weak holes.
That, and stock internals just aren't designed for boost, it's a whole different aspect. N/A car's simply aren't made to take it, some do it better than others, some blow with slight boost, the 3.5 seems to fall somewhere in the middle of Bad and Good on boost.
Either way it boils down to an unreliable car unless the internals are built for it.
Also built internals expand my options, tuning, power delivers (rpm range, etc), and allow me to run about 2x the level of boost safely.
I just want a good running factory fresh dd with just the basic mods i might even sell off alot of the unnessary things like do i really do i need headers and a 3" exhaust for a dd maby obx and a modified megan exhaust will do
yea bro just use the $$$ on your motor man, im going to probebly S/C in a few also, after the next couple of small parts to compliment that project, i say just do your own motor up if 350rwhp is the goal
also remember its $2600 + the turbo build... i personally think for your goal you can get all those things you mentioned and a decent tuning device for $2600 if the car being out of commission is what you are worried about then just buy another motor (i take it you know how to swap motors too right???
Then headers and Dual WB's for the Haltech. Might need a MAFS too if I'm going to run much over 10+ psi, unsure what the stock MAFS can handle for boost without peaking out.
It's kind of the threshold for the tranny though.
LS is the common swap for these with huge aftermarket support
Last edited by TunerMaxima3000; Jun 14, 2012 at 07:37 PM.
I's a single dad working full time with a house that is undergoing renovations
Normally, you'd be correct though, starting is always the hardest part. For me, it's the easiest. It's finding time to finish that proves impossible
My main reason for wanting a built engine is reputation. These engines traditionally don't do too well with boost. Many a 3.5 has been roasted due to boost. Hell we roast them N/A. Oil consumption kills them fast, it doesn't take much, and with boost in the mix it is only a matter of time.
Again, I already have 2 weak holes.
That, and stock internals just aren't designed for boost, it's a whole different aspect. N/A car's simply aren't made to take it, some do it better than others, some blow with slight boost, the 3.5 seems to fall somewhere in the middle of Bad and Good on boost.
Either way it boils down to an unreliable car unless the internals are built for it.
Also built internals expand my options, tuning, power delivers (rpm range, etc), and allow me to run about 2x the level of boost safely.
Normally, you'd be correct though, starting is always the hardest part. For me, it's the easiest. It's finding time to finish that proves impossible
My main reason for wanting a built engine is reputation. These engines traditionally don't do too well with boost. Many a 3.5 has been roasted due to boost. Hell we roast them N/A. Oil consumption kills them fast, it doesn't take much, and with boost in the mix it is only a matter of time.
Again, I already have 2 weak holes.
That, and stock internals just aren't designed for boost, it's a whole different aspect. N/A car's simply aren't made to take it, some do it better than others, some blow with slight boost, the 3.5 seems to fall somewhere in the middle of Bad and Good on boost.
Either way it boils down to an unreliable car unless the internals are built for it.
Also built internals expand my options, tuning, power delivers (rpm range, etc), and allow me to run about 2x the level of boost safely.
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Nah not enough room to play really. Too much work. And I don't need a 550 WHP street cruiser, that's just silly.
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
Back when i i had the 87 iroc my first try was with a 6-71 double screw and dual doms that factory 350 with iron heads that engine screamed i killed after about 5 runs against a hemi cuda after that came a 572 fully worked and man 3mpg was killer
Nah not enough room to play really. Too much work. And I don't need a 550 WHP street cruiser, that's just silly.
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
Nah not enough room to play really. Too much work. And I don't need a 550 WHP street cruiser, that's just silly.
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
I WANT a twin turbo setup, I much prefer turbo over sc, but given the application and costs, time, reliability, etc, a SC build has way more Checks in the "PRO" column than the Turbo does.
The DE-K is one of those engines that takes boost no problem. That freaking engine is so phenominal it never ceases to amaze me. Nissan killed it with that one. The 3.5 is awesome but reliability/build quality doesn't even come close.
If the Maxima wasn't so crappy of a platform (IMO) and was Manual, I'd have a boosted DE-K right now without a doubt.
Actually I stil lhave the Maxima, I drove it Tuesday. It was aweful
I love the 3.5 and the DE-K, Im not one of those o i have a DE-K and think the DE's are junk kind of guys. I loved my old 3.5
Not for me, nope.
i was just kicking it with my friend who owned a 350z now he owns a 335i him and the owner of a shop who just got rid of a bosted 350z said those motors even if you build them still can handle boost, given that you only want 350rwhp (now) i guess you would be fine... go for it
lol. Yeah if so he's right the heads aren't the best at disipating heat and are prone to 'hot spots' when you really push them. One of the reasons a brand new WP is a must, but still, hard issue to really fix without putting on a different head.
And 300-450 on that head without a problem, those issues don't arrise until much higher/harder running.
OH FUAK!!! That reminds me, I want meth injection too...... dammit this is getting expensive.
I detailed a bone stock 2013 GT 500 last week, Never been so in love with a Mustang since the release of the 03 Cobra or one of my old blown Fox body's. Car bone stock on a Dyno Dynamics made 558 @ the wheel. Crazy
You mean to say can't handle boost, right
lol. Yeah if so he's right the heads aren't the best at disipating heat and are prone to 'hot spots' when you really push them. One of the reasons a brand new WP is a must, but still, hard issue to really fix without putting on a different head.
And 300-450 on that head without a problem, those issues don't arrise until much higher/harder running.
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same.... the 2013 is my fiances fav car lol.... she dont know it as the GT500 she calls it "the mustang with the snake in the grill" lol... at least she know its a mustang, big step lol
Carbon ceramic rotors ?!?!?!? 
dayyyyum.
Can you imagine the cost to do brakes n that thing? guessing like $20,000?
Yuuuup
Same here. Loved that DE-K though it was gutless (for me), love the 3.5 more. But if they had a RWD DE-K I'd be tempted to put it in and boost that. Just a way stronger engine all around.
dayyyyum.
Can you imagine the cost to do brakes n that thing? guessing like $20,000?
Yuuuup
Same here. Loved that DE-K though it was gutless (for me), love the 3.5 more. But if they had a RWD DE-K I'd be tempted to put it in and boost that. Just a way stronger engine all around.
mmmmm i wont say i "loved" the 3.5 but for NA i liked it, got the job done in most cases now the 3.5HR lol... the HR is the motor that took over the #1 spot for the DEK (outside of the skyline motors)