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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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I got everything to work except idle relearn feature on my 00....i click it and it says test NOT OK with engine off ignition on it will do it and says test complete but i dont think im doing it right.
What adapter are you using? This is the latest car gauge pro right?
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 06:30 AM
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Hey Defiance, never found a solution to our problem huh? I also went onto the scantech forums and posted our problem on their as well. I really don't want to buy a different/better obdll dongle if it isn't going to work anyway. I'll post on here if I find out anything new. Thanks.
Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:19 AM
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Hey Defiance, never found a solution to our problem huh? I also went onto the scantech forums and posted our problem on their as well. I really don't want to buy a different/better obdll dongle if it isn't going to work anyway. I'll post on here if I find out anything new. Thanks.
Yes whenever I try Car gauge I get the same java error you get. An error has occurred in sub:java.lang.RuntimeException:Cannot parse: 94...

So im playing the waiting game in hopes a newer version will have better support for our cheaper Elm327 Bluetooth eBay adapters. Strange I never get any issues with Torque Pro, so I know its working well.
Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:45 PM
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Yes whenever I try Car gauge I get the same java error you get. An error has occurred in sub:java.lang.RuntimeException:Cannot parse: 94...

So im playing the waiting game in hopes a newer version will have better support for our cheaper Elm327 Bluetooth eBay adapters. Strange I never get any issues with Torque Pro, so I know its working well.
Just found some great news for us. Issac just got back to me about the java error. He states a new version or update for the app will fix our problem. He didn't say when it was coming out though. I'll keep you posted! Or, you can just go to this url: http://scantech.proboards.com/thread...1&scrollTo=622 ---- Can't wait!
Old Jan 17, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by defiance
What adapter are you using? This is the latest car gauge pro right?
yes the latest one, and i had to send the elm327 back and buy the VGATE for the timing advance to work. everything works except idle relearn.


are you supposed to do it with car running.
Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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yes the latest one, and i had to send the elm327 back and buy the VGATE for the timing advance to work. everything works except idle relearn.


are you supposed to do it with car running.
I thought idle relearn was done with key in on position motor off at operating temperature?
Old Jan 17, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ACee
I thought idle relearn was done with key in on position motor off at operating temperature?
If so mine did go though but i didnt notice a difference in idle though maybe it was Good to begin with.
Old Jan 21, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zachpark17
Just found some great news for us. Issac just got back to me about the java error. He states a new version or update for the app will fix our problem. He didn't say when it was coming out though. I'll keep you posted! Or, you can just go to this url: http://scantech.proboards.com/thread...1&scrollTo=622 ---- Can't wait!
Just got the update for the java error we were having. It fixed the problem perfectly. My phone now syncs perfectly to the ecu and the timing adjustment went smooth as well. I did this with the $10 ebay elm327 so to those of you who are having problems and are blaming it on the ebay elm327, I would advise you to go to the url posted above and give Isaac a shout there, he was a huge help and figured out the java error problem and had it fixed in a couple days.
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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So the timing advance will work on vq30de-k
Old Feb 1, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Finally advanced my timing tonight. V-gate successful.
Old Feb 1, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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Me to with elm 327 mini from eBay this has been my best investment. Thus far thanks org.
Old Feb 2, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vernon8751
So the timing advance will work on vq30de-k
yes......
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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So, my idle air realern stopped working for some reason. That's disappointing since I have new breather mods of the way. I know a lot of you posted that it didn't work to begin with. Oh well, I'll just pedal dance it.
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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So, my idle air realern stopped working for some reason. That's disappointing since I have new breather mods of the way. I know a lot of you posted that it didn't work to begin with. Oh well, I'll just pedal dance it.
Is there any way to confirm it's actually working? I did it through the app with the engine temp up to operating and with the key in "on" position and it said test successful or something like that, but is there a way to know for sure?
Old Feb 9, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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Has anyone comfirmed if the app's idle air relearn works? My check engine light is on for another reason so I don't have the luxory or waiting for the light to blink and come on and off, etc.
Old Feb 11, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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Cheap 327elm mini off eBay and the App, best $17 bucks spent. Woke up my tired 210k engine. Smooth down the road.. Transmission seems to shift like butter now, snaps in after doing this. Would this effect a AT???


Either way big thanks to the op for bringing this to light!!! You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 06:20 AM
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Hi.
I couldn't find any post refereeing to the simplest questions:
Why hasn't Nissan already set the timing position to 15-17? Is there a certain risk of advancing the timing on our own? If it wasn't potentially hazardous to the engine, wouldn't it be like that in the first place??
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoharDV
Hi.
I couldn't find any post refereeing to the simplest questions:
Why hasn't Nissan already set the timing position to 15-17? Is there a certain risk of advancing the timing on our own? If it wasn't potentially hazardous to the engine, wouldn't it be like that in the first place??
If you comprehended what had been written in this post, then you wouldn't have these questions.
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ACee
If you comprehended what had been written in this post, then you wouldn't have these questions.
Enlighten me, please.
Im not patronizing or trying to be sarcastic, just a simple - average Joe - question.

Thanks

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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoharDV
Hi.
I couldn't find any post refereeing to the simplest questions:
Why hasn't Nissan already set the timing position to 15-17? Is there a certain risk of advancing the timing on our own? If it wasn't potentially hazardous to the engine, wouldn't it be like that in the first place??


This is probably something for another thread.

In any case, manufactures always heir on the side of conservation. Also, premium fuel is REQUIRED with this advance. Many of us have had our timing advanced for tens of thousands of miles and decades with no ill effects, as long as you use premium fuel.

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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX


This is probably something for another thread.

In any case, manufactures always heir on the side of conservation. Also, premium fuel is REQUIRED with this advance. Many of us have had our timing advanced for tens of thousands of miles and decades with no ill effects, as long as you use premium fuel.
What could be considered as premium fuel?
I use 95 octane. Is it good enough?
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoharDV
What could be considered as premium fuel?
I use 95 octane. Is it good enough?
premium octane fuel is anything 91 or higher (basically the best pump gas you gan get), so yeah, 95 octane is good.
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
premium octane fuel is anything 91 or higher (basically the best pump gas you gan get), so yeah, 95 octane is good.
Whoa! We only have 95 and 98 octane around here (Israel).
Anyways, I have a vq20de 2.0L engine. Gonna' try this timing advance (already have a BT adapter and Car Gauge Pro)

Thanks for the heads-up guys!

Edit: can someone post a step-by-step procedure for doing this? What is the correct procedure for the idle relearn?

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Whoa! We only have 95 and 98 octane around here (Israel).
Anyways, I have a vq20de 2.0L engine. Gonna' try this timing advance (already have a BT adapter and Car Gauge Pro)

Thanks for the heads-up guys!

I'd use 98 if I were you. Reason being, the methodology for determinig octane in the USA is likely not the same as you have. here, it's the RM/2 method.



edit - I just googled and according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating, our method of octane is about 5-8 points lower...so our 87 is your 92...which makes your 95 like our 89.

Which makes my above statement even more true (re: using 98)...also, you've got the 2.0L car...which means you would likely need the better gas anyhow if you're planning on trying the timing advance.





tl;dr - buy the good shiit.

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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
I'd use 98 if I were you. Reason being, the methodology for determinig octane in the USA is likely not the same as you have. here, it's the RM/2 method.
Hmmm.. I can check that out. There supposed to be a stranded published for this.
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Hmmm.. I can check that out. There supposed to be a stranded published for this.

see my edit.

you guys use RON to determine your octane, we don't.
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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Hey I cant seem to get the Idle Relearn to work. I warmed my car up, set key to On..then selected the idle air relearn and it keeps failing. Would the manual using gas pedal method work if my check engine light is on already from other codes?
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Just got me a droid phone. Hmmm. I wonder if this works with the Pathfinder :P
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Can someone post a step-by-step procedure for doing the Timing advance and the Idle relearn?
Thanks
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Just got me a droid phone. Hmmm. I wonder if this works with the Pathfinder :P
Atta boy nmexmax!
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Can someone post a step-by-step procedure for doing the Timing advance and the Idle relearn?
Thanks
http://forums.maxima.org/8810958-post120.html
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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This is odd

I just came back from my car.

I wanted to do whole dance but something's weird...
My ignition timing on idle reads about 7-8. When I step on the gas it rises upto ~40.
These are the idle parameters:


This is a graph of what happens when I step the on gas pedal:


Am I missing something?
Keep in mind that this is a vq20de 2.0L enging!

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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Thoughts anyone?
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What is your base timing? you have a different car so they will have different parameters than the max.
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:28 AM
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I tried Idle Air again after redoing my spacers, (3pc to 5pc). Still a no go with the app. It used to work for me but no dice the past few times I've tried. Car was well above operating temp, in the 185 range. Anyone else try it recently? Might be time for a contact to Issac again.

As for the guy with the Sentra or whatever, no idea what your base timing is or why your trying to advance it. Timing does increase as you go through the rpm range. So that part is normal.
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Originally Posted by SicOne
What is your base timing? you have a different car so they will have different parameters than the max.
Hi. Its not a completely different car, its still a 5th gen Maxima with a VQ engine.
What is the "Base timing?" There are two parameters within Car Gauge that refer to timing: IGNITION TIMING *4 and CORRECTED TIMING (which shows 0° in my car, and can be set to any value between -2° and 2°)
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoharDV
Hi. Its not a completely different car, its still a 5th gen Maxima with a VQ engine.
What is the "Base timing?" There are two parameters within Car Gauge that refer to timing: IGNITION TIMING *4 and CORRECTED TIMING (which shows 0° in my car, and can be set to any value between -2° and 2°)
Those are viewable PIDs, ignition timing *4 simply displays your ignition timing in real time, as it goes up and down etc etc, corrected timing shows what degree advancement you've performed through the self test function
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I'm still hung up on the 2.0 maxima!?!?
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At 0 correction, base ignition timing is 15 degrees at idle on a vq35de, same for vq30dek?
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Originally Posted by CauzinDrama
I'm still hung up on the 2.0 maxima!?!?
Right? That's why I assumed he was doing this on a different car.



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