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Old 02-10-2015, 07:40 AM
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Valve cover leak - will switching oil help?

I have a 2003 Max SE with 162K miles on it. I've been using Mobil 1 extended performance synthetic since before I had 100k miles. I add about 3/4 of a quart every month. Mechanic pointed out I have a leak from the valve cover and that switching to a blend might help. My questions are, what oils/treatments are recommended to stop/reduce the leak from the VC? Should I try dino, a blend or Mobil1 makes a synthetic high mileage oil that supposedly prevents leaks in older, high mileage cars. I definitely want to try an oil that will help with the leak and want to get recommendations on which to try.

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Just replace the gasket on your valve cover.
A copy of the FSM is on my sig and that will tell you how to do it.
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JFC. Fix it.

Please, pretty please, lock this.
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get gen 6 valve covers (2004 +)
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Whats an approximate on labor costs to get the front valve cover replaced? Also looking at this product on amazon:
Amazon.com: BlueDevil Oil Stop Leak: Automotive Amazon.com: BlueDevil Oil Stop Leak: Automotive
Anyone have any experience/advice on the product?

My gf's older Corolla also has the same valve cover oil leak issue. I might try the bluedevil product on her car first. But really, would rather replace the gasket first. Any idea on labor costs? ballpark figure.
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Originally Posted by shobuddy
Whats an approximate on labor costs to get the front valve cover replaced? Also looking at this product on amazon: Amazon.com: BlueDevil Oil Stop Leak: Automotive
Anyone have any experience/advice on the product?

My gf's older Corolla also has the same valve cover oil leak issue. I might try the bluedevil product on her car first. But really, would rather replace the gasket first. Any idea on labor costs? ballpark figure.
It's the rear valve cover that is the problem with our Max's. They are prone to leaking and filling up the spark plug wells. Buy a 6th gen cover + gasket and swap it out. Might as well do the rear spark plugs while you are in there.

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The front ones on the Maxima are easy the rear you need to take off the intake manifold but otherwise it's not hard.. Consider replacing ignition coils while you have the manifold off anyhow
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Thanks for the responses. As far as I can tell, mine is leaking from the front VC but I have to take off the engine cover and check the rear one a little better. And yes, I do intend to replace the rear three ignition coils while I'm there. Been getting the cylinder misfire codes for almost three years now. Though the car continues to run ok, I do feel the misfires occasionally. Not sure if the coils are bad or if oil has gotten in there to cause the misfires.
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Originally Posted by shobuddy
Thanks for the responses. As far as I can tell, mine is leaking from the front VC but I have to take off the engine cover and check the rear one a little better. And yes, I do intend to replace the rear three ignition coils while I'm there. Been getting the cylinder misfire codes for almost three years now. Though the car continues to run ok, I do feel the misfires occasionally. Not sure if the coils are bad or if oil has gotten in there to cause the misfires.
It's most definitely the oil getting into the spark plugs & ignition coil boot. Had the same problem couple months ago & found my 5th cyl spark plug drenched in oil
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I agree, all of these are just bad aids aside from actually changing the cover & gasket. Changing the rear VC isn't that bad. Mine is missing right now and I'm blaming it on the cyl #5 due to that oil leaking in there.

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I agree, all of these are just bad aids aside from actually changing the cover & gasket. Changing the rear VC isn't that bad. Mine is missing right now and I'm blaming it on the cyl #5 due to that oil leaking in there.

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Exactly. Once you throw away the IM brackets, you can have it off in 5 mins while wearing a blind fold.

For a design that covers the rear bank, I doubt there's an easier car to do this work on.
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Do it right, do it once. Replace the valve cover gaskets as needed. Easy and cheap job.
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I just replaced my front valve cover, took about 45 minutes. Take engine cover off, remove wiring harness out of the way, remove ignition coils, remove valve cover bolts, clean where the gasket meets, apply silicone in the sharp corners, put new cover and gasket on and thats about it! Good luck!
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That rear gasket is a PITA. Im not going to BS with you. That's why shops charge so much to replace it. It's easy as in, it's just removing bolts and hoses primarily, but I dont want to give you the impression that it's a piece of cake. There's a lot to remove and not a lot of space back there. Changing the actual gasket is easy but it's like surgery removing all that stuff to get to it. Make sure you do it right because you don't want to have to go back there again if you don't have to. Change everything you need to while back there. I'm speaking from experience. Manage your expectations.
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Important side note: DO NOT over tighten the valve cover bolts. I accidentally did this and spent days trying to get them out using various methods (EasyOut, Left-handed drill bit, ect.) It was not fun.
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considering replacing ignition coils and whatnot when you are back there
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Originally Posted by shobuddy
I have a 2003 Max SE with 162K miles on it. I've been using Mobil 1 extended performance synthetic since before I had 100k miles. I add about 3/4 of a quart every month. Mechanic pointed out I have a leak from the valve cover and that switching to a blend might help. My questions are, what oils/treatments are recommended to stop/reduce the leak from the VC? Should I try dino, a blend or Mobil1 makes a synthetic high mileage oil that supposedly prevents leaks in older, high mileage cars. I definitely want to try an oil that will help with the leak and want to get recommendations on which to try.
I'm sure you're burning more than you're leaking!
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Is it necessary/recommended to use RTV as part of the gasket replace job?
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Originally Posted by shobuddy
Is it necessary/recommended to use RTV as part of the gasket replace job?
Yes, most definitely. Follow the procedure in the Factory Service Manual (FSM) to a 'T'. Just don't wing it. And be sure to torque everything down to spec as spelled out in the FSM too.

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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Yes, most definitely. Follow the procedure in the Factory Service Manual (FSM) to a 'T'. Just don't wing it. And be sure to torque everything down to spec as spelled out in the FSM too.

Click link in my sig for a free copy of the FSM.
Thanks, looking at page 18 of EM.pdf, I want to clarify three things.

1. Do I need gasket maker (black tube) or gasket sealer (blue tube)?
http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glu...er/193913_0_0/
http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glu...er/554295_0_0/

2. The RTV gasket is not applied all the way around, just at the two points, correct? I've read conflicting reports so want to clarify.

3. The FSM also say "For bolt holes with * marks (5 locations), apply liquid
gasket outside of the holes."
Does this mean apply it around the holes and then screw in the bolt to seal it?
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Originally Posted by shobuddy
Thanks, looking at page 18 of EM.pdf, I want to clarify three things.

1. Do I need gasket maker (black tube) or gasket sealer (blue tube)?
http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glu...er/193913_0_0/
http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glu...er/554295_0_0/

2. The RTV gasket is not applied all the way around, just at the two points, correct? I've read conflicting reports so want to clarify.

3. The FSM also say "For bolt holes with * marks (5 locations), apply liquid
gasket outside of the holes."
Does this mean apply it around the holes and then screw in the bolt to seal it?
1. Gasket Maker
2. EM 18 is for the oil pan. Look at EM 31, 33, and 45.
3. The 5 locations was oil pan related only.
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