got smoked by an audi a4???????
03-04-2002, 07:53 PM
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got smoked by an audi a4???????
I was coming home tonight and noticed an audi a4 right behind me tailing me for about a mile
I usually don't race so i let it go.... after merging right into on coming traffic i let aside and he punched it hard! i just accelerated through the gears without any downshift.
This was a late 90's model maybe a 98-99.... even if i popped my clutch and gave it my all it would have pulled slowly.......what the hell?
my guess was that he has a supercharger cuz i know their specs and they are nothing to brag about...
a 90's audi 4 banger walking a 2k2 max se 6 speed; humiliating!
bought a zex nos system and then told my boyz at the shop that i am concerned about reliability and to give me store credit but now am re-considering
I usually don't race so i let it go.... after merging right into on coming traffic i let aside and he punched it hard! i just accelerated through the gears without any downshift.
This was a late 90's model maybe a 98-99.... even if i popped my clutch and gave it my all it would have pulled slowly.......what the hell?
my guess was that he has a supercharger cuz i know their specs and they are nothing to brag about...
a 90's audi 4 banger walking a 2k2 max se 6 speed; humiliating!
bought a zex nos system and then told my boyz at the shop that i am concerned about reliability and to give me store credit but now am re-considering
03-04-2002, 08:46 PM
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You didn't mention if it was a 2.8 or 1.8T. The 2.8 you should smoke unless, as you said, he had an SC or NOS. 1.8T's are laughable stock but are EASILY modifiable to mid 14sec cars and can get much quicker yet if they upgrade their turbo!!
03-05-2002, 05:46 AM
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My brother just got a 2k2 SE 6spd, and the lease term was up on his Audi S4! He and his friend went out and raced the two of the cars from all different speeds:
From stop: Audi ( Max wheel hopped and spun)
20mph: Audi ( Max spun tires)
40mph: Max
60mph: Max
To make sure this was not just driver related they swapped cars and performed all 4 races again and got the same results.
From stop: Audi ( Max wheel hopped and spun)
20mph: Audi ( Max spun tires)
40mph: Max
60mph: Max
To make sure this was not just driver related they swapped cars and performed all 4 races again and got the same results.
03-05-2002, 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by silentbuzz
$400 chip upgrade gives it 240hp at the tires.
$400 chip upgrade gives it 240hp at the tires.
He's also looking into a $5000 turbo/intercooler upgrade that will give him 400 hp though.
03-05-2002, 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
My brother just got a 2k2 SE 6spd, and the lease term was up on his Audi S4! He and his friend went out and raced the two of the cars from all different speeds:
From stop: Audi ( Max wheel hopped and spun)
20mph: Audi ( Max spun tires)
40mph: Max
60mph: Max
To make sure this was not just driver related they swapped cars and performed all 4 races again and got the same results.
My brother just got a 2k2 SE 6spd, and the lease term was up on his Audi S4! He and his friend went out and raced the two of the cars from all different speeds:
From stop: Audi ( Max wheel hopped and spun)
20mph: Audi ( Max spun tires)
40mph: Max
60mph: Max
To make sure this was not just driver related they swapped cars and performed all 4 races again and got the same results.
S4 is a damn fast car but its a wannabe Allwheel drive. Its not even 50/50. Its more like 65/35 transfer b/w front and rear. They are Very Fast cars. I don't Know if it would Rape a 02 6Spd but It would be a good race. 00/01 5spd, would have a hard time with it.
03-05-2002, 07:02 AM
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Are you sure about that?-->
Originally posted by PIONEER
Wheel Hopp = HLSD
S4 is a damn fast car but its a wannabe Allwheel drive. Its not even 50/50. Its more like 65/35 transfer b/w front and rear. They are Very Fast cars. I don't Know if it would Rape a 02 6Spd but It would be a good race. 00/01 5spd, would have a hard time with it.
Wheel Hopp = HLSD
S4 is a damn fast car but its a wannabe Allwheel drive. Its not even 50/50. Its more like 65/35 transfer b/w front and rear. They are Very Fast cars. I don't Know if it would Rape a 02 6Spd but It would be a good race. 00/01 5spd, would have a hard time with it.
It has a Torsen center differential, which is one of the best torque-distributing devices you can have in a drivetrain. It doesn't require wheelspin to distribute the power.
You are correct, a stock S4 wouldn't kill a 02 6 spd on a roll, from a standstill it probabaly would. On a roll, I would expect the Max to edge it out with just a lot o' HP and light weight. On the big end of the dial, I think the S4 would pull the Max with the advantage being the S4's gearing. (say from 100 on up) S4 has perfect gearing in gears 3-6, that will pull it past many cars with high HP numbers. (GS400 is one that comes to mind)
03-05-2002, 07:42 AM
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BTW, read this, but only if you're really interested in a very technical desrcription
Originally posted by PIONEER
Wheel Hopp = HLSD
S4 is a damn fast car but its a wannabe Allwheel drive. Its not even 50/50. Its more like 65/35 transfer b/w front and rear. They are Very Fast cars. I don't Know if it would Rape a 02 6Spd but It would be a good race. 00/01 5spd, would have a hard time with it.
Wheel Hopp = HLSD
S4 is a damn fast car but its a wannabe Allwheel drive. Its not even 50/50. Its more like 65/35 transfer b/w front and rear. They are Very Fast cars. I don't Know if it would Rape a 02 6Spd but It would be a good race. 00/01 5spd, would have a hard time with it.
http://www.sonic.net/garyg/zonc/Tech...ferential.html
03-05-2002, 07:49 AM
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Re: Stock S4 =250hp; just chip it and it goes to
Originally posted by Galo
300 hp...it will eat Maxes and even the new 333hp M3s for breakfast, lunch & dinner
300 hp...it will eat Maxes and even the new 333hp M3s for breakfast, lunch & dinner
03-05-2002, 07:59 AM
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Re: Stock S4 =250hp; just chip it and it goes to
Originally posted by Galo
300 hp...it will eat Maxes and even the new 333hp M3s for breakfast, lunch & dinner
300 hp...it will eat Maxes and even the new 333hp M3s for breakfast, lunch & dinner
1995 Supra Turbo
320Hp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 3415
1995 Mazda RX-7
255hHp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 2826
So you think The Supra Rapes a RX-7
Better Yet, Do you think the 02Maxima with 255Hp can take the RX-7 with 255Hp
03-05-2002, 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
I have seen my cousin GS 400 walk an S4 hard..
I have seen dmbmaxima run door to door with my cousin GS 400
I have raced an S4 on colder plugs and no nitrous.. we were even upto 70 mph where he started walking away..
I have seen dmbmaxima anihalate me on colder plugs
I have seen my cousin anihalate me on colder plugs
you do the math..
03-05-2002, 08:02 AM
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Re: Stock S4s regularly clocking 5.8 secs 0-60,
Originally posted by Galo
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
03-05-2002, 08:07 AM
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Re: Stock S4s regularly clocking 5.8 secs 0-60,
Originally posted by Galo
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
if a 2k2 max is runnign 14.2 bone stock.. a chipped S4 is not eating anything.. one thing you have to know with turbo cars.. if they have small turbos (usually stock turbos) they have little top end.. such as the S4 / 1.8T / WRX .. blah blah blah
03-05-2002, 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
Even with an excellent max driver vs a good s4 the max could come out ahead from a dead stop unless the guy wants to ruin his tranny with a high rpm clutch drop. Stock for stock my money is on the max on a roll.
03-05-2002, 09:37 AM
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Re: Are you sure about that?-->
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
Far as I know, the torque split is 50-50 under normal conditions. It can vary as far as 70/30 (or 65/35) according to AoA specs when conditions require.
It has a Torsen center differential, which is one of the best torque-distributing devices you can have in a drivetrain. It doesn't require wheelspin to distribute the power.
You are correct, a stock S4 wouldn't kill a 02 6 spd on a roll, from a standstill it probabaly would. On a roll, I would expect the Max to edge it out with just a lot o' HP and light weight. On the big end of the dial, I think the S4 would pull the Max with the advantage being the S4's gearing. (say from 100 on up) S4 has perfect gearing in gears 3-6, that will pull it past many cars with high HP numbers. (GS400 is one that comes to mind)
Far as I know, the torque split is 50-50 under normal conditions. It can vary as far as 70/30 (or 65/35) according to AoA specs when conditions require.
It has a Torsen center differential, which is one of the best torque-distributing devices you can have in a drivetrain. It doesn't require wheelspin to distribute the power.
You are correct, a stock S4 wouldn't kill a 02 6 spd on a roll, from a standstill it probabaly would. On a roll, I would expect the Max to edge it out with just a lot o' HP and light weight. On the big end of the dial, I think the S4 would pull the Max with the advantage being the S4's gearing. (say from 100 on up) S4 has perfect gearing in gears 3-6, that will pull it past many cars with high HP numbers. (GS400 is one that comes to mind)
There are some Max 6spd owners that go up to the NY area like Steve. You should race him at highways speeds to see how fast your car is? Just an idea?
03-05-2002, 09:46 AM
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no fugging way can a S4 beat a GS 400 on the highway.. muhahah.. maybe if the GS isn't in power mode..
i have been in over 6 races with 4 people in the GS 400 and 2 passengers in the S4 and all the S4's got toasted highway speeds.. only one came close and it was chipped i assume.. dude we have pulled a 540i 6spd from 2 car lenghts and put 3 on it from 70 mph to 145 mph ..
i don't know many cars that can run a GS top end.. cars i have seen go down to GS 4 .. Z28, S4, 540, Lightning.. the GS is so damn areo dynamic it isn't funny.. the higher up in mph you go.. the faster it gets.. its a highway beast.. unless you are driving in power mode and without E - Shift maybe the S4 will have a chance.. or maybe the guy was in snow mode
i have been in over 6 races with 4 people in the GS 400 and 2 passengers in the S4 and all the S4's got toasted highway speeds.. only one came close and it was chipped i assume.. dude we have pulled a 540i 6spd from 2 car lenghts and put 3 on it from 70 mph to 145 mph ..
i don't know many cars that can run a GS top end.. cars i have seen go down to GS 4 .. Z28, S4, 540, Lightning.. the GS is so damn areo dynamic it isn't funny.. the higher up in mph you go.. the faster it gets.. its a highway beast.. unless you are driving in power mode and without E - Shift maybe the S4 will have a chance.. or maybe the guy was in snow mode
03-05-2002, 10:35 AM
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Last year at my track a blue S4 showed up. It was clearly chipped seeing that he was running 13.2@105mph. It was a beast off the line, spinning all 4 tires. I don't see ANY GS400 hanging with this car when it's chipped, from a stop or from a roll. You can tell if the car is a "topend" machine by simply looking at the trap speed.
As for the GS400, I don't consider it a huge threat to my Maxima. On the first weekend of the racing season, I got to run a GS400 twice at my track. I ran two 14.7s@96mph to his 14.8-.9@95mph. He was running stock 16s and an intake. From the 1/8 mile on, neither of us was pulling on each other. I would have thought from 70mph to over 100mph, I would have seen this "massive" topend the GS400 supposedly has.
Dave
As for the GS400, I don't consider it a huge threat to my Maxima. On the first weekend of the racing season, I got to run a GS400 twice at my track. I ran two 14.7s@96mph to his 14.8-.9@95mph. He was running stock 16s and an intake. From the 1/8 mile on, neither of us was pulling on each other. I would have thought from 70mph to over 100mph, I would have seen this "massive" topend the GS400 supposedly has.
Dave
03-05-2002, 11:18 AM
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I disagree, but this isn't the first time-->
Originally posted by SprintMax
no fugging way can a S4 beat a GS 400 on the highway.. muhahah.. maybe if the GS isn't in power mode..
i have been in over 6 races with 4 people in the GS 400 and 2 passengers in the S4 and all the S4's got toasted highway speeds.. only one came close and it was chipped i assume.. dude we have pulled a 540i 6spd from 2 car lenghts and put 3 on it from 70 mph to 145 mph ..
i don't know many cars that can run a GS top end.. cars i have seen go down to GS 4 .. Z28, S4, 540, Lightning.. the GS is so damn areo dynamic it isn't funny.. the higher up in mph you go.. the faster it gets.. its a highway beast.. unless you are driving in power mode and without E - Shift maybe the S4 will have a chance.. or maybe the guy was in snow mode
no fugging way can a S4 beat a GS 400 on the highway.. muhahah.. maybe if the GS isn't in power mode..
i have been in over 6 races with 4 people in the GS 400 and 2 passengers in the S4 and all the S4's got toasted highway speeds.. only one came close and it was chipped i assume.. dude we have pulled a 540i 6spd from 2 car lenghts and put 3 on it from 70 mph to 145 mph ..
i don't know many cars that can run a GS top end.. cars i have seen go down to GS 4 .. Z28, S4, 540, Lightning.. the GS is so damn areo dynamic it isn't funny.. the higher up in mph you go.. the faster it gets.. its a highway beast.. unless you are driving in power mode and without E - Shift maybe the S4 will have a chance.. or maybe the guy was in snow mode
I'm not getting into an arguement over this. You think so, I don't. You've seen one thing, I've seen another.
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03-05-2002, 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
S4 would still rape the 2k2 6speed.
GC
S4 = 250 bhp w/ turbo Max = 255 w/ One of the best V6 in the world!
hard to say in my eyes... id like to see the race myself.
its how fast either car gets to 60!
03-05-2002, 01:09 PM
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Re: Re: Stock S4 =250hp; just chip it and it goes to
I am really not trying to start an arguement, but I know the Supra would take the RX-7. I had that 1995 Supra TT w/ 6 speed for 3 1/2 years. My Supra was stock except for HKS intake and SuperDragger exhaust...good for about 370hp. I never lost a race to anything but a crotch-rocket bike and that was really just for fun. I raced many a modded RX-7, newer Vette, SS, Cobra, 911, etc and never lost a single race to any car. I can't even recall how many thumbs up I got from people that challenged my car. I really didn't even have to go out looking for races as everyone with the racier versions of their cars (including Neon R/T's) wanted to race.
The RX-7 is a great car and was a consideration when I was looking to get the Supra. The thing that scared me is that everyone that had more than 40K miles on their car boasted things like new turbos or new engine. That is scary! The Supra is a typical Toyota and virtually bulletproof.
The RX-7 is a great car and was a consideration when I was looking to get the Supra. The thing that scared me is that everyone that had more than 40K miles on their car boasted things like new turbos or new engine. That is scary! The Supra is a typical Toyota and virtually bulletproof.
Originally posted by PIONEER
Further more. Look at these 2 cars..
1995 Supra Turbo
320Hp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 3415
1995 Mazda RX-7
255hHp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 2826
So you think The Supra Rapes a RX-7
Better Yet, Do you think the 02Maxima with 255Hp can take the RX-7 with 255Hp
Further more. Look at these 2 cars..
1995 Supra Turbo
320Hp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 3415
1995 Mazda RX-7
255hHp @ 5600Rpm
Weight, 2826
So you think The Supra Rapes a RX-7
Better Yet, Do you think the 02Maxima with 255Hp can take the RX-7 with 255Hp
03-05-2002, 01:52 PM
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Re: I disagree, but this isn't the first time-->
its not what i think.. its what i know.. like i said.. i have been IN the GS with MULTIPLE races.. and as i said before.. you don't know if the GS owner was using power mode or not.. i can tell you personally a GS off power mode can put only 2 cars on my 97 5spd from 60 - 100 mph.. with power mode on .. the car puts about 6 - 7 cars on me.. unless you were sitting in the GS and saw the power mode on.. you don't know what the hell the owner was doing.. i have walked A6 2.7T's on the highway without nitrous .. the GS in power mode would slaughter that car..
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
I've seen many a car beat a GS400 on a roll. It's not as fast as you might think. I have never seen a late model Z28 that would lose to an unmodified GS400. I too have pulled a 540i 6 spd in my car, but when I mentioned that, there were many doubters. S4's, 540's and Z28's all have plenty of power and the ability to roast a GS400 from the low end and the high end.
I'm not getting into an arguement over this. You think so, I don't. You've seen one thing, I've seen another.
I
I've seen many a car beat a GS400 on a roll. It's not as fast as you might think. I have never seen a late model Z28 that would lose to an unmodified GS400. I too have pulled a 540i 6 spd in my car, but when I mentioned that, there were many doubters. S4's, 540's and Z28's all have plenty of power and the ability to roast a GS400 from the low end and the high end.
I'm not getting into an arguement over this. You think so, I don't. You've seen one thing, I've seen another.
I
03-05-2002, 01:54 PM
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Dave .. the meat of the GS is above 80 mph.. the car is a f'ing terror..
my friends chipped GTI that runs 15.0 at the track can stay door to door with my cousin's GS from 0 - 70 mph.. if we are all racing on the highway.. its no competion.. you just see those bright blue lights .. they come up.. and they just zoom right by you.. its no competition at high speeds..
you can't compare the 1/4 mile of the GS as to it racing on the highway..
my friends chipped GTI that runs 15.0 at the track can stay door to door with my cousin's GS from 0 - 70 mph.. if we are all racing on the highway.. its no competion.. you just see those bright blue lights .. they come up.. and they just zoom right by you.. its no competition at high speeds..
you can't compare the 1/4 mile of the GS as to it racing on the highway..
Originally posted by Dave B
Last year at my track a blue S4 showed up. It was clearly chipped seeing that he was running 13.2@105mph. It was a beast off the line, spinning all 4 tires. I don't see ANY GS400 hanging with this car when it's chipped, from a stop or from a roll. You can tell if the car is a "topend" machine by simply looking at the trap speed.
As for the GS400, I don't consider it a huge threat to my Maxima. On the first weekend of the racing season, I got to run a GS400 twice at my track. I ran two 14.7s@96mph to his 14.8-.9@95mph. He was running stock 16s and an intake. From the 1/8 mile on, neither of us was pulling on each other. I would have thought from 70mph to over 100mph, I would have seen this "massive" topend the GS400 supposedly has.
Dave
Last year at my track a blue S4 showed up. It was clearly chipped seeing that he was running 13.2@105mph. It was a beast off the line, spinning all 4 tires. I don't see ANY GS400 hanging with this car when it's chipped, from a stop or from a roll. You can tell if the car is a "topend" machine by simply looking at the trap speed.
As for the GS400, I don't consider it a huge threat to my Maxima. On the first weekend of the racing season, I got to run a GS400 twice at my track. I ran two 14.7s@96mph to his 14.8-.9@95mph. He was running stock 16s and an intake. From the 1/8 mile on, neither of us was pulling on each other. I would have thought from 70mph to over 100mph, I would have seen this "massive" topend the GS400 supposedly has.
Dave
03-05-2002, 02:52 PM
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Re: Stock S4s regularly clocking 5.8 secs 0-60,
Originally posted by Galo
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
03-05-2002, 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
Dave .. the meat of the GS is above 80 mph.. the car is a f'ing terror..
my friends chipped GTI that runs 15.0 at the track can stay door to door with my cousin's GS from 0 - 70 mph.. if we are all racing on the highway.. its no competion.. you just see those bright blue lights .. they come up.. and they just zoom right by you.. its no competition at high speeds..
you can't compare the 1/4 mile of the GS as to it racing on the highway..
Dave .. the meat of the GS is above 80 mph.. the car is a f'ing terror..
my friends chipped GTI that runs 15.0 at the track can stay door to door with my cousin's GS from 0 - 70 mph.. if we are all racing on the highway.. its no competion.. you just see those bright blue lights .. they come up.. and they just zoom right by you.. its no competition at high speeds..
you can't compare the 1/4 mile of the GS as to it racing on the highway..
03-05-2002, 03:08 PM
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Re: Stock S4s regularly clocking 5.8 secs 0-60,
Originally posted by Galo
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
modded with the 300 hp chip they are regularly clocking 5.3 to 5.4 secs...like I said, will eat Maxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner
03-05-2002, 04:09 PM
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So you KNOW that the 2.7t you walked on the highway was a 6 spd?
Originally posted by SprintMax
its not what i think.. its what i know.. like i said.. i have been IN the GS with MULTIPLE races.. and as i said before.. you don't know if the GS owner was using power mode or not.. i can tell you personally a GS off power mode can put only 2 cars on my 97 5spd from 60 - 100 mph.. with power mode on .. the car puts about 6 - 7 cars on me.. unless you were sitting in the GS and saw the power mode on.. you don't know what the hell the owner was doing.. i have walked A6 2.7T's on the highway without nitrous .. the GS in power mode would slaughter that car..
its not what i think.. its what i know.. like i said.. i have been IN the GS with MULTIPLE races.. and as i said before.. you don't know if the GS owner was using power mode or not.. i can tell you personally a GS off power mode can put only 2 cars on my 97 5spd from 60 - 100 mph.. with power mode on .. the car puts about 6 - 7 cars on me.. unless you were sitting in the GS and saw the power mode on.. you don't know what the hell the owner was doing.. i have walked A6 2.7T's on the highway without nitrous .. the GS in power mode would slaughter that car..
I personally have never been walked by a 4th gen with the mods you listed.
I know what I've seen also, and been a part of. I know what races I've had on the street, and I know what races I've won, and I too have friends with faster cars than mine also. I know that a 6 spd Z28 will waste all the GS400's I've ever seen. On a standstill, on a roll, wherever.
You're looking at a car with a 1/4 mile time of 13.5-13.7 seconds at a trap speed of 100-102 mph vs one that does 14.4-14.6 at 96-97 mph.
Having driven a Z28 6 spd, there is no way that a stock GS400 is going to outrun it on the highway, not if the driver of the Z bothers to downshift. Either your cousins car is far stronger than the most, or the Z you raced and beat wasn't trying.
03-05-2002, 04:39 PM
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Re: So you KNOW that the 2.7t you walked on the highway was a 6 spd?
i don't know if its a factory freak.. but i know its a beast.. i was in the car when the Z28 got walked.. it was from 80 - 140 and it got 3 cars put on it.. most of these races i told you about usually happend when we are coming back from the club at 3 - 4 am in the morning.. i also saw the anihallation of a BMW 850 .. i saw the v12 sign as we passed by
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
and you KNOW that he was trying, and you KNOW that he knew how to drive it? Unless you have been behind the wheel of the 6spd 2.7 you don't know what the He** the driver was doing.
I personally have never been walked by a 4th gen with the mods you listed.
I know what I've seen also, and been a part of. I know what races I've had on the street, and I know what races I've won, and I too have friends with faster cars than mine also. I know that a 6 spd Z28 will waste all the GS400's I've ever seen. On a standstill, on a roll, wherever.
You're looking at a car with a 1/4 mile time of 13.5-13.7 seconds at a trap speed of 100-102 mph vs one that does 14.4-14.6 at 96-97 mph.
Having driven a Z28 6 spd, there is no way that a stock GS400 is going to outrun it on the highway, not if the driver of the Z bothers to downshift. Either your cousins car is far stronger than the most, or the Z you raced and beat wasn't trying.
and you KNOW that he was trying, and you KNOW that he knew how to drive it? Unless you have been behind the wheel of the 6spd 2.7 you don't know what the He** the driver was doing.
I personally have never been walked by a 4th gen with the mods you listed.
I know what I've seen also, and been a part of. I know what races I've had on the street, and I know what races I've won, and I too have friends with faster cars than mine also. I know that a 6 spd Z28 will waste all the GS400's I've ever seen. On a standstill, on a roll, wherever.
You're looking at a car with a 1/4 mile time of 13.5-13.7 seconds at a trap speed of 100-102 mph vs one that does 14.4-14.6 at 96-97 mph.
Having driven a Z28 6 spd, there is no way that a stock GS400 is going to outrun it on the highway, not if the driver of the Z bothers to downshift. Either your cousins car is far stronger than the most, or the Z you raced and beat wasn't trying.
03-05-2002, 07:59 PM
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well my ego was burned and i do not take that mildly
Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
It was modded and had a chip in it most likely!
It was modded and had a chip in it most likely!
My zex NOS system is going in on tuesday. And my kamikaze body kit gets installed the following week.
My boy knows this guy who has the audi and said he installed a turbo upgrade and chip ! )- he has an s4... his input was valuable and my nos punch will be an extra 75hp ........I'M GONNA KILL THAT MAN!
STAY TUNED... i have money i just hope he does...........
rob
03-05-2002, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Neo Max
You didn't mention if it was a 2.8 or 1.8T. The 2.8 you should smoke unless, as you said, he had an SC or NOS. 1.8T's are laughable stock but are EASILY modifiable to mid 14sec cars and can get much quicker yet if they upgrade their turbo!!
You didn't mention if it was a 2.8 or 1.8T. The 2.8 you should smoke unless, as you said, he had an SC or NOS. 1.8T's are laughable stock but are EASILY modifiable to mid 14sec cars and can get much quicker yet if they upgrade their turbo!!
03-05-2002, 10:28 PM
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Re: So you KNOW that the 2.7t you walked on the highway was a 6 spd?
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
and you KNOW that he was trying, and you KNOW that he knew how to drive it? Unless you have been behind the wheel of the 6spd 2.7 you don't know what the He** the driver was doing.
I personally have never been walked by a 4th gen with the mods you listed.
I know what I've seen also, and been a part of. I know what races I've had on the street, and I know what races I've won, and I too have friends with faster cars than mine also. I know that a 6 spd Z28 will waste all the GS400's I've ever seen. On a standstill, on a roll, wherever.
You're looking at a car with a 1/4 mile time of 13.5-13.7 seconds at a trap speed of 100-102 mph vs one that does 14.4-14.6 at 96-97 mph.
Having driven a Z28 6 spd, there is no way that a stock GS400 is going to outrun it on the highway, not if the driver of the Z bothers to downshift. Either your cousins car is far stronger than the most, or the Z you raced and beat wasn't trying.
and you KNOW that he was trying, and you KNOW that he knew how to drive it? Unless you have been behind the wheel of the 6spd 2.7 you don't know what the He** the driver was doing.
I personally have never been walked by a 4th gen with the mods you listed.
I know what I've seen also, and been a part of. I know what races I've had on the street, and I know what races I've won, and I too have friends with faster cars than mine also. I know that a 6 spd Z28 will waste all the GS400's I've ever seen. On a standstill, on a roll, wherever.
You're looking at a car with a 1/4 mile time of 13.5-13.7 seconds at a trap speed of 100-102 mph vs one that does 14.4-14.6 at 96-97 mph.
Having driven a Z28 6 spd, there is no way that a stock GS400 is going to outrun it on the highway, not if the driver of the Z bothers to downshift. Either your cousins car is far stronger than the most, or the Z you raced and beat wasn't trying.
And it ain't debating about it over the net.
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