Torque Steer
Re: Re: When a big car mag (dont recall if it was
Not to sound redundant, but have you checked your tires? If it's still on the stock Potenza's and adding in the wear and tear for the past couple of years then you pretty much have the answer as to why the sudden torque steer.
I have a 2k2 and like i said before, aside from the initial TS during a hard launch i never experience it on the highway.
And please, don't generalize about the hostility.
I have a 2k2 and like i said before, aside from the initial TS during a hard launch i never experience it on the highway.
And please, don't generalize about the hostility.
Originally posted by Larrfry
Thanks for your thoughtful response!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did do a fair amount of research before buying the Maxima and what I remember was the 5th generation was a much better car than the 4th generation. I doubt the alignment is the problem because the front tires show even wear. I do wish the torque steer was a well documented behavior!!!!!!!!! I don't think it is. I didn't see many complaints! If you look at the posts responding to my criticisms, many of which are openly hostile, it seems, if you own a Maxima, any criticisms are off bounds, in essense, the Maxima is a perfect car.
Given all the hostility that I generated when I suggested that the Maxima may not be a perfect car, it is hard to determine if the Sudden, Abrupt torgue steer, I experience, is normal. It seems that most of the people that post, want to prove they bought the ultimate car and NOT discuss any negative characteristics.
Evidentally, I'm either a crack head, nuts, etc to raise these issues.
Jeezzz!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your thoughtful response!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did do a fair amount of research before buying the Maxima and what I remember was the 5th generation was a much better car than the 4th generation. I doubt the alignment is the problem because the front tires show even wear. I do wish the torque steer was a well documented behavior!!!!!!!!! I don't think it is. I didn't see many complaints! If you look at the posts responding to my criticisms, many of which are openly hostile, it seems, if you own a Maxima, any criticisms are off bounds, in essense, the Maxima is a perfect car.
Given all the hostility that I generated when I suggested that the Maxima may not be a perfect car, it is hard to determine if the Sudden, Abrupt torgue steer, I experience, is normal. It seems that most of the people that post, want to prove they bought the ultimate car and NOT discuss any negative characteristics.
Evidentally, I'm either a crack head, nuts, etc to raise these issues.
Jeezzz!!!!!!!!
Again, please do not generalize.
Not to sound like i'm flaming you, because i'm not, but you did come up with an initial post attacking the Maxima's "inherent bad design of the vehicle". Naturally some owners would likely defend their purchase. Take it this way, if you bought a Porsche 911 and someone ditched it as a terrible RWD car that does nothing but give you whiplashes wouldn't you feel a little bit defensive about it?
In any case, as a lot suggested you may have a defective car and/or problems not readily visible to the human eye. Have it checked and aligned (even though you say the front tire wear is even, it's very possible the previous owner did a wheel change and/or rotation so it's not evident during the first few hundred miles either). There are so many possible combinations that would cause your car to have the severe torque steer that you experience that it's not right to generalize right away that the car is terrible.
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
Not to sound like i'm flaming you, because i'm not, but you did come up with an initial post attacking the Maxima's "inherent bad design of the vehicle". Naturally some owners would likely defend their purchase. Take it this way, if you bought a Porsche 911 and someone ditched it as a terrible RWD car that does nothing but give you whiplashes wouldn't you feel a little bit defensive about it?
In any case, as a lot suggested you may have a defective car and/or problems not readily visible to the human eye. Have it checked and aligned (even though you say the front tire wear is even, it's very possible the previous owner did a wheel change and/or rotation so it's not evident during the first few hundred miles either). There are so many possible combinations that would cause your car to have the severe torque steer that you experience that it's not right to generalize right away that the car is terrible.
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
Originally posted by Larrfry
THANKS. THANKS. THANKS. It seems it is hard to ask a question without being attacked.
THANKS. THANKS. THANKS. It seems it is hard to ask a question without being attacked.
Re: Torque Steer
Originally posted by Larrfry
If I come over a steep hillcrest with power-on in lower gears the vehicle also suddenly pulls to one side or the other.
If I come over a steep hillcrest with power-on in lower gears the vehicle also suddenly pulls to one side or the other.
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Originally posted by soundmike
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
Re: Oh, yeah...
Originally posted by MichaelAE
To you 4th genner's. You're just jealous because our 5th Gen's look so nice from the back due to Nissan's amazing success in perfecting the back-end of the automobile during the first years of this century. I mean, the Maxima...Altima...G35...what else can one say?
Hahaha. I'm such a kidder.
To you 4th genner's. You're just jealous because our 5th Gen's look so nice from the back due to Nissan's amazing success in perfecting the back-end of the automobile during the first years of this century. I mean, the Maxima...Altima...G35...what else can one say?
Hahaha. I'm such a kidder.
If you guys want to feel reallly bad torque steer drive a 9-3 Viggen!
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Originally posted by soundmike
Again, please do not generalize.
Not to sound like i'm flaming you, because i'm not, but you did come up with an initial post attacking the Maxima's "inherent bad design of the vehicle". Naturally some owners would likely defend their purchase. Take it this way, if you bought a Porsche 911 and someone ditched it as a terrible RWD car that does nothing but give you whiplashes wouldn't you feel a little bit defensive about it?
In any case, as a lot suggested you may have a defective car and/or problems not readily visible to the human eye. Have it checked and aligned (even though you say the front tire wear is even, it's very possible the previous owner did a wheel change and/or rotation so it's not evident during the first few hundred miles either). There are so many possible combinations that would cause your car to have the severe torque steer that you experience that it's not right to generalize right away that the car is terrible.
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
Again, please do not generalize.
Not to sound like i'm flaming you, because i'm not, but you did come up with an initial post attacking the Maxima's "inherent bad design of the vehicle". Naturally some owners would likely defend their purchase. Take it this way, if you bought a Porsche 911 and someone ditched it as a terrible RWD car that does nothing but give you whiplashes wouldn't you feel a little bit defensive about it?
In any case, as a lot suggested you may have a defective car and/or problems not readily visible to the human eye. Have it checked and aligned (even though you say the front tire wear is even, it's very possible the previous owner did a wheel change and/or rotation so it's not evident during the first few hundred miles either). There are so many possible combinations that would cause your car to have the severe torque steer that you experience that it's not right to generalize right away that the car is terrible.
As for the "hostile remarks" you've been getting, people (as i am) are just confused by your initial posts and thus the posts and/or questions about your purchase. Specifically due to the following points:
1) You admit not being a big fan of FWD cars
2) The torque steer in the Max is unacceptable
3) You buy the max as a commuter car yet you redline all the way to 3rd gear. Which means you're doing well way over the speed limit at that point.
4) Any FWD car with as much Horsepower as the Maxima, without a traction control or LSD supplement is bound to have torque steer. It's not "bad design" on Nissan's part but rather plain old physics.
5) "It is less than impressive", "Joke as a performance car". You bought the car with a "commuter car" in mindset and yet you make these comments.
Seriously, stand back and look at your own post and you'll see why the mixed reactions in the responses to your allegations, questions and remarks.
With regard to your comment "a well designed front wheel drive.", I'm taking a chance on this but do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up.
If you're seriously unhappy with your purchase, even after having it checked, you're really more than welcome to return it. You asked for everyone's suggestions and comments by posting at the forum and you got it.
Peace.
"do name a 3200lbs FWD Family sports sedan with a manual transmission and 222hp at the crank that will fare better than the Maxima and i'll shut up." the search for that vehicle must be in the price range of the Max as well.....good luck and peace.
Re: Re: Oh, yeah...
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Well, I can't argue that your butt looks better, but if we run together, I'll never be looking at it anyway
Well, I can't argue that your butt looks better, but if we run together, I'll never be looking at it anyway
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Originally posted by see5
Let's let this one die. All points have been made!
Let's let this one die. All points have been made!
I agree. We all own the Ultimate Front Wheel Drive Car. Whether I own a bad sample of the Maxima (with abrupt torgue steer) or whether that problem is, in fact, typical, ------ we'll never know. God knows I've tried to figure that out!
Nevertheless, we can all rest assured that the 5th Generation Maxima is the ultimate, afforable, mid-powered, FWD car.
Regarding torque steer, a topic clearly never to be discussed!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Larrfry
I agree. We all own the Ultimate Front Wheel Drive Car. Whether I own a bad sample of the Maxima (with abrupt torgue steer) or whether that problem is, in fact, typical, ------ we'll never know. God knows I've tried to figure that out!
Nevertheless, we can all rest assured that the 5th Generation Maxima is the ultimate, afforable, mid-powered, FWD car.
Regarding torque steer, a topic clearly never to be discussed!!!!!!!!!
I agree. We all own the Ultimate Front Wheel Drive Car. Whether I own a bad sample of the Maxima (with abrupt torgue steer) or whether that problem is, in fact, typical, ------ we'll never know. God knows I've tried to figure that out!
Nevertheless, we can all rest assured that the 5th Generation Maxima is the ultimate, afforable, mid-powered, FWD car.
Regarding torque steer, a topic clearly never to be discussed!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Larrfry
I agree. We all own the Ultimate Front Wheel Drive Car. Whether I own a bad sample of the Maxima (with abrupt torgue steer) or whether that problem is, in fact, typical, ------ we'll never know. God knows I've tried to figure that out!
Nevertheless, we can all rest assured that the 5th Generation Maxima is the ultimate, afforable, mid-powered, FWD car.
Regarding torque steer, a topic clearly never to be discussed!!!!!!!!!
I agree. We all own the Ultimate Front Wheel Drive Car. Whether I own a bad sample of the Maxima (with abrupt torgue steer) or whether that problem is, in fact, typical, ------ we'll never know. God knows I've tried to figure that out!
Nevertheless, we can all rest assured that the 5th Generation Maxima is the ultimate, afforable, mid-powered, FWD car.
Regarding torque steer, a topic clearly never to be discussed!!!!!!!!!
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From: maryland
2011 max.
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
2011 max.
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
Super necropost and super wrong generation....toodles
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Start by lowering your tire pressure just a little, easy and cheap to try. Some people run real high psi when you don't need to. The tires are new, may be a much stiffer or somehow different sidewall firmness, of course tread difference as well. But lowering the PSI could help. Keep it right at 31-32 psi cold, see if that helps. Some shops/drivers like to run 35 or more cold, may make for slightly better MPG, but sacrifices comfort and grip once the PSI get's up over 40 after being driven for a while...
Of course if you're already at 31-32 cold, don't go much lower, you'll have to look elsewhere for a fix.
Of course if you're already at 31-32 cold, don't go much lower, you'll have to look elsewhere for a fix.
2011 max.
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
the front suspension parts are a year old.
Recently had all four new tires and alignment afterwards.
Torque steering noticed. Wasn’t this bad with old tires and alignment. Make me want to get the old tires back. Had a small positive camber on old alignment.
Hhhrrrggggrrrrrrr
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 780
From: maryland
Start by lowering your tire pressure just a little, easy and cheap to try. Some people run real high psi when you don't need to. The tires are new, may be a much stiffer or somehow different sidewall firmness, of course tread difference as well. But lowering the PSI could help. Keep it right at 31-32 psi cold, see if that helps. Some shops/drivers like to run 35 or more cold, may make for slightly better MPG, but sacrifices comfort and grip once the PSI get's up over 40 after being driven for a while...
Of course if you're already at 31-32 cold, don't go much lower, you'll have to look elsewhere for a fix.
Of course if you're already at 31-32 cold, don't go much lower, you'll have to look elsewhere for a fix.
I do appreciate you shedding some light on this. Although am in a different Gen thread, not too much on the forum on web on this issue. I was starting to think Motor Mounts??? Will check them tire pressure and see what kind of results I will get....
Respeck!!
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