Rotors...can someone explain how to change them?
#1
Rotors...can someone explain how to change them?
Ok...sounds dumb BUT..I need to do it as they are shot and I refuse to have Nissan do it with their crap rotors.
Gonna get them at NAPA and attempt it myself. Someone I know is sort of a gear head but he is in Maine (I'm on the Cape). He preety much said to take the wheel off, the caliper and then the rotor. then reassemble in reverse order.
My question is..I can take the wheel off and the rotors seem pretty easy to do but how do you take the caliper off?
looks like there are clips rather than screws. I've also think I've seen someone here say that the calipers are "lift up" whatever that means.
If someone who has done this could let me know about how to do this I would much appreciate it
Gonna get them at NAPA and attempt it myself. Someone I know is sort of a gear head but he is in Maine (I'm on the Cape). He preety much said to take the wheel off, the caliper and then the rotor. then reassemble in reverse order.
My question is..I can take the wheel off and the rotors seem pretty easy to do but how do you take the caliper off?
looks like there are clips rather than screws. I've also think I've seen someone here say that the calipers are "lift up" whatever that means.
If someone who has done this could let me know about how to do this I would much appreciate it
#2
Calipers have two bolts on the inside of
each, behind some really small rubber booties...
Remove them, caliper comes off...no more work needed
If your rotors have ben cut a few times you might have to work the pistons/pads into the calipers a bit before u can fit them over the new rotors..just loosen the caliper's bleed screw a bit and push the pads back a bit.
Also, you will want to remove the pads and sand them down a bit...use 220 grit sandpaper, place paper on a flat surface (dining table would be excelent, he he he) and sand the pads downa bit to remove the surface glazing, reinstall with a bit of disk brake quiet compound, done.
Remove them, caliper comes off...no more work needed
If your rotors have ben cut a few times you might have to work the pistons/pads into the calipers a bit before u can fit them over the new rotors..just loosen the caliper's bleed screw a bit and push the pads back a bit.
Also, you will want to remove the pads and sand them down a bit...use 220 grit sandpaper, place paper on a flat surface (dining table would be excelent, he he he) and sand the pads downa bit to remove the surface glazing, reinstall with a bit of disk brake quiet compound, done.
#5
Brakes are pretty important. If you're not a mechanic or at least have some mechanical skills, I wouldn't touch them. Have a shop do it, even if it's not a dealer shop. Do a thread search for the guy who swapped his brake lines, lost brake pressure while cruising, and almost died, then think really hard about whether you want to mess with it or not.
#6
Rotors
Once you have the wheel off, there will be 2 screws (top and bottom) on the closest to engine side of the caliper. Memorize how everything sits before you take the pads off, and than there will be 2 more bigger bolts(on top and on the bottom) that hold the bracket that holds the caliper and that suround and hold the rotor. Once those 2 are off and bracket comes off, the rotor will be free to take off.
Just did that saturday, since had to replace the stud.
Good luck.
Just did that saturday, since had to replace the stud.
Good luck.
#7
Re: Rotors
Originally posted by THEKNITE
Once you have the wheel off, there will be 2 screws (top and bottom) on the closest to engine side of the caliper. Memorize how everything sits before you take the pads off, and than there will be 2 more bigger bolts(on top and on the bottom) that hold the bracket that holds the caliper and that suround and hold the rotor. Once those 2 are off and bracket comes off, the rotor will be free to take off.
Just did that saturday, since had to replace the stud.
Good luck.
Once you have the wheel off, there will be 2 screws (top and bottom) on the closest to engine side of the caliper. Memorize how everything sits before you take the pads off, and than there will be 2 more bigger bolts(on top and on the bottom) that hold the bracket that holds the caliper and that suround and hold the rotor. Once those 2 are off and bracket comes off, the rotor will be free to take off.
Just did that saturday, since had to replace the stud.
Good luck.
#10
Re: Calipers have two bolts on the inside of
Originally posted by Galo
each, behind some really small rubber booties...
Remove them, caliper comes off...no more work needed
If your rotors have ben cut a few times you might have to work the pistons/pads into the calipers a bit before u can fit them over the new rotors..just loosen the caliper's bleed screw a bit and push the pads back a bit.
Also, you will want to remove the pads and sand them down a bit...use 220 grit sandpaper, place paper on a flat surface (dining table would be excelent, he he he) and sand the pads downa bit to remove the surface glazing, reinstall with a bit of disk brake quiet compound, done.
each, behind some really small rubber booties...
Remove them, caliper comes off...no more work needed
If your rotors have ben cut a few times you might have to work the pistons/pads into the calipers a bit before u can fit them over the new rotors..just loosen the caliper's bleed screw a bit and push the pads back a bit.
Also, you will want to remove the pads and sand them down a bit...use 220 grit sandpaper, place paper on a flat surface (dining table would be excelent, he he he) and sand the pads downa bit to remove the surface glazing, reinstall with a bit of disk brake quiet compound, done.
Cheers
AA
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Re: Rotors...can someone explain how to change them?
Originally posted by jnm2kse
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Gonna get them at NAPA and attempt it myself. Someone I know is sort of a gear head but he is in Maine (I'm on the Cape). He preety much said to take the wheel off, the caliper and then the rotor. then reassemble in reverse order.
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Gonna get them at NAPA and attempt it myself. Someone I know is sort of a gear head but he is in Maine (I'm on the Cape). He preety much said to take the wheel off, the caliper and then the rotor. then reassemble in reverse order.
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Many books describe the process for changing disk brakes and the pointers they give are generally universal so a Haynes or Chiltons manual even for a 3rd or 4th gen Max is a great resource to have "in hand". Breaking a rust-welded rotor from the axle flange can be scary to someone who's never done it before... it involves using some bolts through the caliper mounts to push the rotor off the flange while tapping the rotor hat with the 5 lb hammer.
One suggestion: put the front end on jack stands and remove both wheels, but work on one side at a time so you can use the other side as guide to correctly reassemble the side you're working on.
And lastly... how did you arrive at NAPA rotors as being such great ones? I'm not saying they aren't, but I am also considering which rotors I'll get if mine warp again... I've had 'em turned once and don't think it wise to do so again. I've read of a lot of people putting on Stillen cross-drilled rotors, but stories of XD rotors cracking have pretty much scared me away from them.
BuddyWh
#12
I don't think anyone has mentioned to remove the cap on the brake master cylinder. When you're compressing the piston back in (with a c-clamp or big vice grips), you'll be exterting pressure on the brake master cylinder seal if the cap is on. You might have to drain out some fluid after the pads are in.
#13
Maybe I can add something that appears to be left out:
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
I put on the Stillen XD rotors/Axxis pads this weekend and noticed the Stillen rotors don't have these threaded holes, so in this case, you'll use the other method mentioned (bolt in the caliper mount holes, tap with hammer).
I agree, change the pads while you're at it.
One last thing...I think Napa rotors are guaranteed for life against warping (not against wheel torqueing warp however). That would be the only incentive for buying them.
Buy the chiltons manual if you've never done this.
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
I put on the Stillen XD rotors/Axxis pads this weekend and noticed the Stillen rotors don't have these threaded holes, so in this case, you'll use the other method mentioned (bolt in the caliper mount holes, tap with hammer).
I agree, change the pads while you're at it.
One last thing...I think Napa rotors are guaranteed for life against warping (not against wheel torqueing warp however). That would be the only incentive for buying them.
Buy the chiltons manual if you've never done this.
#14
Bleeding...
Is there a FACT of which corner to bleed first and order to the last corner? I have heard Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front, Driver Front....But also heard Pass Rear, Pass FRONT, Driver Read, Driver Front...
Which is correct on the Max? On my older cars, it was bled in the first manner....
Which is correct on the Max? On my older cars, it was bled in the first manner....
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Re: Bleeding...
Originally posted by Colonel
Is there a FACT of which corner to bleed first and order to the last corner? I have heard Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front, Driver Front....But also heard Pass Rear, Pass FRONT, Driver Read, Driver Front...
Which is correct on the Max? On my older cars, it was bled in the first manner....
Is there a FACT of which corner to bleed first and order to the last corner? I have heard Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front, Driver Front....But also heard Pass Rear, Pass FRONT, Driver Read, Driver Front...
Which is correct on the Max? On my older cars, it was bled in the first manner....
BuddyWh
#16
Originally posted by JohnNixon
Maybe I can add something that appears to be left out:
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
I put on the Stillen XD rotors/Axxis pads this weekend and noticed the Stillen rotors don't have these threaded holes, so in this case, you'll use the other method mentioned (bolt in the caliper mount holes, tap with hammer).
I agree, change the pads while you're at it.
One last thing...I think Napa rotors are guaranteed for life against warping (not against wheel torqueing warp however). That would be the only incentive for buying them.
Buy the chiltons manual if you've never done this.
Maybe I can add something that appears to be left out:
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
I put on the Stillen XD rotors/Axxis pads this weekend and noticed the Stillen rotors don't have these threaded holes, so in this case, you'll use the other method mentioned (bolt in the caliper mount holes, tap with hammer).
I agree, change the pads while you're at it.
One last thing...I think Napa rotors are guaranteed for life against warping (not against wheel torqueing warp however). That would be the only incentive for buying them.
Buy the chiltons manual if you've never done this.
#17
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Originally posted by JohnNixon
Maybe I can add something that appears to be left out:
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
...
Maybe I can add something that appears to be left out:
Once the caliper and mount is removed...
The OEM rotors have two threaded holes in the face (by your wheel studs). If the rotor is rusted to the axle flange, insert the proper size bolt in these threaded holes and tighten gently until the rotor comes free.
...
BuddyWh
#18
The Stillen XD rotors are excellent so far. I suppose the real proof is in the longevity.
They come with a recommended break-in procedure, which completely makes sense when you read it. I've never seen any other rotors that offer this advice, but it should be applied to any new brakes.
I've actually got brakes now...my old rotors and pads were whipped. They grab really well. So far so good.
GR Racing hooked me up solid. Great customer service!
They come with a recommended break-in procedure, which completely makes sense when you read it. I've never seen any other rotors that offer this advice, but it should be applied to any new brakes.
I've actually got brakes now...my old rotors and pads were whipped. They grab really well. So far so good.
GR Racing hooked me up solid. Great customer service!
#19
Re: Re: Calipers have two bolts on the inside of
Originally posted by doublea
It is not necessary to loosen the caliper's bleed screw, you can just remove the cover ot the brakes oil container, also there is 2 big screw in the back of the
Cheers
AA
It is not necessary to loosen the caliper's bleed screw, you can just remove the cover ot the brakes oil container, also there is 2 big screw in the back of the
Cheers
AA
They are held on by the lug nuts, and prevented from just slipping off by the caliper. The new rotors will be *slightly* thicker than the old ones, so the pads will have to be pressed back into the caliper a little bit to get the caliper on.
BTW, this would be a real good time to change your pads too. The pistons on the front caliper can be pressed in (c clamp or brake tool). the pistons on the rear calipers *screw in*. there are "multi" tools that fit 90% of pistons out there. Dont be afraid to twist and press *hard*.
You have to take the pads off to press the piston back into the caliper for front and back.
Once you do it once, you will always know how to do a cheap brake job. If I have to do anything more diffucult, I let a mechanic do it.
#20
Originally posted by got rice?
I don't think anyone has mentioned to remove the cap on the brake master cylinder. When you're compressing the piston back in (with a c-clamp or big vice grips), you'll be exterting pressure on the brake master cylinder seal if the cap is on. You might have to drain out some fluid after the pads are in.
I don't think anyone has mentioned to remove the cap on the brake master cylinder. When you're compressing the piston back in (with a c-clamp or big vice grips), you'll be exterting pressure on the brake master cylinder seal if the cap is on. You might have to drain out some fluid after the pads are in.
Cheers
AA
#21
Re: Re: Bleeding...
Originally posted by BuddyWh
I always do them RR/LF/LR/RF sequence... I think it has something to do with the diagonal nature of the redundancy and balancing.
BuddyWh
I always do them RR/LF/LR/RF sequence... I think it has something to do with the diagonal nature of the redundancy and balancing.
BuddyWh
I've always gone passenger rear, driver rear, pass front, driver front. Start from the corner furthest from the brake master cylinder and work up.
#22
Go there... I know he have a 4th gen.... but he gives some good tips.... and he have a lot of pictures on how-to....
http://www.motorvate.ca/
Good luck...
http://www.motorvate.ca/
Good luck...
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