did you notice a reduction in torque steer as a result? It feels to me that there is less TQ steer after my Eibachs..I can theorize that the new suspension geometry (more negative camber) has helped reduce TQ steer, NE1 else observed this?

 

Did you only change the springs? (kept stock shocks and struts?) How much lower is your car now? I'm asking cuz i wanna get the eibachs, but I wanna make sure I'm not gonna load the rest of the suspension too much. Thanks in advance.

 

Blues. Love it....Eibachs give methinks the smallest drop, just enough to look good without looking slammed. Ride is a bit firmer but not harsher..better damped for sure. Overall, I like a lot

 

Hey, I have noticed less torque steer since the maxspeeds - yes. But, I'll tell you what - since I went from 15" to 17" wheels, the ride got a little squirrely. I find that a bump in the road will send me in another direction if I am not holding on to the wheel. Know what I mean? It's not jerking out of my hand or anything, but I couldn't steer with my knee on a bumpy road (for e.g.).

BUT, tell me more about the Tokicos. I did a poll on their success rates not too long ago and got mixed results (I'm 'bout to go digging for the final tally). How did you decide on them? I have a GXE and it's a toss up b/t slightly used SE struts, Toks, or Cattman KYB.

 

Hey Galo,

You got any pics of your car? What size are your SSR's? Did you do the install yourself?

 

soon...now it's not only my wife bugging me for one but the folks on this board also -LOL!!!

I've the Integrals in stock 17 x 7 size; a combination of my aversion to any tire with less than 50-series profile for street use and my desire to reduce unsprung weight as much as possible -which I did well with the Integrals at 17lbs versus 24 lbs for the stock rims. The Potenzas will go soon for Michelins...

This is my second Tokico Blues install....I had a Gen4 Max that I did the install 40k miles ago...I've kept track of the car because I sold it to a friend and the darn shocks are still okay so I cant complain about them.

There were 2 reasons for not doing AGXs: one is price the other is their process for adjusting: when u adjust an AGX you're adjusting compression (jounce) as well as extension (rebound) and with stiffer springs you wanna be able to adjust rebound only -because compression is already made stiffer by the springs. Because of that Konis would be my hand-down fave (have had many Konis over the years) but they dont make the front struts for our car yet)only the rears. When Koni does get around to making them available I'll switch in a heartbeat.

I did the rears myself, had the front done...too damn tired.

 

Oh ok! I didn't go with the GC because you have to modify and grind sick of hearing this grinding Sh#t! Same stuff for the struts too only the tokicos no grinding thats why I went with um.

 

sensitivity to road irregularities is due to both the lowering springs -which changed your static camber settings- and the tires.

The static camber affects it because with the old springs/camber settings, the outer edge of the tread was more in contact with the road than the rest of the tire (positive camber) so that most road irregularities hit the ouer edge of the tire first. Now, with more negative (neutral) camber, some irregulaties hit the inner portion of the tread first (or more forcefully) than before...bottom line you have now two edges that can grab at irregularities where before mostly one.

This is worsened with wider tires because there's more distance from the wheel's centerline to the outer and inner edges of the tread, which then invokes that evil process which I described above.

Bottom line, neutral camber and wide tires invoke a phenomenon called BUMP STEER!

Whew! sorry for the long post

 

We'll now I have a name for that little dance.

Lemme, ask you this. [I've posted this b/f, but since I have your ear...] When hitting a dip/bump in the road at ~45mph I get a nice BAM! in the rear (worsened w/ extra weight in back). Is this bottoming out? Will Tokicos help? If no, what?

And thanks for the lesson.

 

I read your mods and noticed u had Maxpeed springs as well as the Addco RSB...it could be due to either so...with one question I might be able to point u to one direction: when u installed the Maxspeeds, did you trim (cut) the rubber bump stop on the shock absorbers? For a 1.25" lowering, that bump stop should be trimmed about one inch....if you did not do that, 5 will get u 10 that's the problem -you are indeed bottoming out the rear suspension.
Please advise, rgds
Galo-man

 

Sounds like it's time to call my install guy. I did have the Addco Bang - grinded it to fix. Now, I guess I got the Maxspeed Bump to go with my Bump Steer. Hmm...

Thanks again.

 

installation intructions dont specify that u have to cut the bumpstop whereas the Eibach and H&R instructions do...the Eibach instructions specify the rear bump stop be cut 26 millimeters -just a hair over one inch- so I betcha that's it....
Have fun, lemme know if that fixes it...I'm willing to bet the cost of the installation that's your problem