235 45 17 Tires
05-26-2002, 10:51 PM
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235 45 17 Tires
I know.....this is in the Faq Forum. But, I was at Sears yesterday and they told me that the approved tires for my 2000 SE Opt was 235 45 17. This is cool because of the bigger selection of tires. However, I've read on the FAQ that you should NOT put this size tire on a stock 2k 17" rim.
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
05-26-2002, 11:25 PM
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Hi jjames. Welcome to the 5th Gen Forum.
Before you install 235/45R17 tires on your OEM rims, read the post on Page 3 of the FAQs entitled:
Can I run oversized tires on my stock 17" SE Rims?
Here's a link to Page 3 of the FAQs:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=3
Then do whatever you think is best.
PS: Do me a favor. If you can get a copy of Sears' tire guide or a statement from Sears IN WRITING that it's OK to mount 235/45R17 tires on your OEM rims, do it. Then scan it and send me a copy at bld522@yahoo.com. If you don't have a scanner, e-mail me and I'll send you my fax number. I guarantee I'll have some fun with it at Sears' expense.
Before you install 235/45R17 tires on your OEM rims, read the post on Page 3 of the FAQs entitled:
Can I run oversized tires on my stock 17" SE Rims?
Here's a link to Page 3 of the FAQs:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=3
Then do whatever you think is best.
PS: Do me a favor. If you can get a copy of Sears' tire guide or a statement from Sears IN WRITING that it's OK to mount 235/45R17 tires on your OEM rims, do it. Then scan it and send me a copy at bld522@yahoo.com. If you don't have a scanner, e-mail me and I'll send you my fax number. I guarantee I'll have some fun with it at Sears' expense.
05-28-2002, 10:56 AM
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Re: 235 45 17 Tires
Originally posted by jjames
I know.....this is in the Faq Forum. But, I was at Sears yesterday and they told me that the approved tires for my 2000 SE Opt was 235 45 17. This is cool because of the bigger selection of tires. However, I've read on the FAQ that you should NOT put this size tire on a stock 2k 17" rim.
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
I know.....this is in the Faq Forum. But, I was at Sears yesterday and they told me that the approved tires for my 2000 SE Opt was 235 45 17. This is cool because of the bigger selection of tires. However, I've read on the FAQ that you should NOT put this size tire on a stock 2k 17" rim.
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
I actually have 235 / 45 / 17" on my car with stock rims. I had it for a few months and they are fine. I take crazy *** turns with my car all the time and did a few runs in an auto X and it all seems fine. I really don't think you have anything to be worried about.
05-28-2002, 11:27 AM
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05-28-2002, 11:52 AM
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I don't know if the brand wheels make any difference - but my old car a 97 Chevy Lumina had 16" wheels with a 6.5" width. Same for the Monte Carlos of that era. I know many people on http://www.mymonte.com that have put on 235 and 245 width tires on the stock 6.5" wide rim with no problem (except for a little rubbing on the 245's).
I haven't been around long enough to know about the debate that goes on here about tire width - but that's just my experience.
John
I haven't been around long enough to know about the debate that goes on here about tire width - but that's just my experience.
John
05-28-2002, 11:55 AM
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Re: This topic has been...
Originally posted by jjs
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05-28-2002, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
I was waiting for you to weigh in.........
I was waiting for you to weigh in.........
Glad I didn't disappoint you.I'll let the FAQs do my talking for me. But I do have a question for MetaOrbit. What were the aspect ratios on the 235s and 245s the Chevy Luminas and Monte Carlos were running on their 16X6.5 rims, MetaOrbit?
05-28-2002, 03:12 PM
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All I had to do was see the title of this thread and - here we go again (groan). Every couple of months this same thing comes up and the battle lines get drawn all over again. Essentially, it's "they fit" and "I've never had any problems" vs "not a combination that's approved as safe".
Sorry, jjames, but you have no idea what a hornet's nest you just poked a stick into. The information is there, as is more than enough opinion if you do the search and wade through all the reading. FWIW, as a car enthusiast and an engineer for more than just a few years I'm firmly on the side that says you need at least 17 x 7.5's for those 235/45-17's.
Norm
Sorry, jjames, but you have no idea what a hornet's nest you just poked a stick into. The information is there, as is more than enough opinion if you do the search and wade through all the reading. FWIW, as a car enthusiast and an engineer for more than just a few years I'm firmly on the side that says you need at least 17 x 7.5's for those 235/45-17's.
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05-28-2002, 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Norm Peterson
All I had to do was see the title of this thread and - here we go again (groan). Every couple of months this same thing comes up and the battle lines get drawn all over again. It's "they fit" and "I've never had any problems" vs "not a combination that's approved as safe".
Sorry, jjames, but you have no idea what a hornet's nest you just poked a stick into. The information is there, as is more than enough opinion if you do the search and wade through all the reading. FWIW, my background is in engineering and I'm firmly on the side that says you need at least 17 x 7.5's for those 235/45-17's.
Norm
All I had to do was see the title of this thread and - here we go again (groan). Every couple of months this same thing comes up and the battle lines get drawn all over again. It's "they fit" and "I've never had any problems" vs "not a combination that's approved as safe".
Sorry, jjames, but you have no idea what a hornet's nest you just poked a stick into. The information is there, as is more than enough opinion if you do the search and wade through all the reading. FWIW, my background is in engineering and I'm firmly on the side that says you need at least 17 x 7.5's for those 235/45-17's.
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05-28-2002, 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Norm Peterson
Man, Master, you're quick on the trigger today or is it maybe I'm just slowing down a bit (I couldn't even finist my edit!)
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Man, Master, you're quick on the trigger today or is it maybe I'm just slowing down a bit (I couldn't even finist my edit!)
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05-28-2002, 03:32 PM
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Glad I didn't disappoint you.
I'll let the FAQs do my talking for me. But I do have a question for MetaOrbit. What were the aspect ratios on the 235s and 245s the Chevy Luminas and Monte Carlos were running on their 16X6.5 rims, MetaOrbit?
Glad I didn't disappoint you.I'll let the FAQs do my talking for me. But I do have a question for MetaOrbit. What were the aspect ratios on the 235s and 245s the Chevy Luminas and Monte Carlos were running on their 16X6.5 rims, MetaOrbit?
Sorry,
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05-28-2002, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by MetaOrbit
To be honest with you I have no clue. I just know that some guys did it and said it was fine. I personally thought it didn't make much sense (seems like the sidewall bulge would be enormous) but I really don't know any of the facts behind it.
Sorry,
John
To be honest with you I have no clue. I just know that some guys did it and said it was fine. I personally thought it didn't make much sense (seems like the sidewall bulge would be enormous) but I really don't know any of the facts behind it.
Sorry,
John
05-28-2002, 03:47 PM
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SOOOOO many times covered this has been!
I am holding in my hands a tire bible supplied to me by Dealer Tire, the supplier of the Toyota tire program (and others). In the guide It states that min recommended rim width for a 235/45/17 tire is 7.5" .... no less. I have yet to read all of y2kse's comments but I KNOW that he has already made reference to the many prev posts.
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Re: Favorite Threads
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Maybe I am a masochist, but these Tire Threads are my fav!
Maybe I am a masochist, but these Tire Threads are my fav!
05-28-2002, 04:53 PM
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Re: Re: SOOOOO many times covered this has been!
Originally posted by y2kse
Well, ssiperko, seeing is believing. Please scan the page you're referring to from the tire bible supplied by Dealer Tire, the supplier of the Toyota tire program (and others), and send it to me at bld522@yahoo.com. Also, please send me Dealer Tire's telephone number and URL as I can't seem to find either of them using any known Internet Search Engine. And pardon me for asking, but is Dealer Tire a tire dealer or a tire manufacturer? If they are a manufacturer and they supply tires to Toyota and others, how come I've never heard of them?
PS: If you don't have a scanner, send me an e-mail and I'll send you my fax number. Then perhaps you'd be good enough to fax the page to me.
Thanks in advance.
Well, ssiperko, seeing is believing. Please scan the page you're referring to from the tire bible supplied by Dealer Tire, the supplier of the Toyota tire program (and others), and send it to me at bld522@yahoo.com. Also, please send me Dealer Tire's telephone number and URL as I can't seem to find either of them using any known Internet Search Engine. And pardon me for asking, but is Dealer Tire a tire dealer or a tire manufacturer? If they are a manufacturer and they supply tires to Toyota and others, how come I've never heard of them?
PS: If you don't have a scanner, send me an e-mail and I'll send you my fax number. Then perhaps you'd be good enough to fax the page to me.
Thanks in advance.
We are on the same page on this subject so I will e-mail you later.
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05-28-2002, 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse
I agree, Tim. On the other hand, misinformation concerning something as critical as proper tire sizing shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged.
The disservice here is being done by those who would continue to perpetuate misinformation, not by those who would strike it down. Having said that, it's possible that a tire "supplier" such as Dealer Tire could have made an honest mistake in stating tire specifications. Such a mistake is easily remedied by placing a phone call to them and advising them of their error.
ssiperko is keely aware that no tire manufacturer will approve the use of their 235/45R17 tires on 7"-wide rims. I'd therefore ask him to post Dealer Tire's telephone number here and now so that they can be contacted and made aware of their mistake. Better than that, I'd challenge him to contact Dealer Tire himself.
What do you say, ssiperko?
I agree, Tim. On the other hand, misinformation concerning something as critical as proper tire sizing shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged.
The disservice here is being done by those who would continue to perpetuate misinformation, not by those who would strike it down. Having said that, it's possible that a tire "supplier" such as Dealer Tire could have made an honest mistake in stating tire specifications. Such a mistake is easily remedied by placing a phone call to them and advising them of their error.
ssiperko is keely aware that no tire manufacturer will approve the use of their 235/45R17 tires on 7"-wide rims. I'd therefore ask him to post Dealer Tire's telephone number here and now so that they can be contacted and made aware of their mistake. Better than that, I'd challenge him to contact Dealer Tire himself.
What do you say, ssiperko?
Dealer Tire the supplier of BFGoodrich, Bridgestone, Continetal, Dunlop, Firestone, General Tire, Goodyear, Michelin, Pirelli, Toyo Tires, Uniroyal & Yokohama to Toyota dealers around the country and in process of setting up for Chevrolet and others I am sure!
1-800-933-2537 And I quote from page 27 of the Tire Guide "Approved rim contours for "p" type tires used on passenger cars and staion wagons" "17 nominal diameter - 45 series"
p205/45r17 - 7j, 7 1/2j, 8j
p225/45r17 - 7j, 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j
p235/45r17 - 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j
p245/45r17 - 7 1/2j, 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j
p255/45r17 - 8j, 8 1/2j, 9j, 9 1/2j
p305/45r17 - 9j, 10j, 11j
p315/45r17 - 10j, 11j, 12j
The above simply states the 200% true facts, I have NEVER seen ANYthing published ANYwhere stating other wise and neither has ANYbody else! I can tell you that if you jump from a airplane @ 5000ft that you will live but that does not make it true!
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05-28-2002, 10:08 PM
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OOPS!
My bad, ssiperko. It appears I misread your posts. We are, in fact, in agreement that the minimum acceptable rim width for a 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". Please accept my apology for suggesting that we were not in agreement.
05-28-2002, 10:51 PM
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Re: OOPS!
Originally posted by y2kse
My bad, ssiperko. It appears I misread your posts. We are, in fact, in agreement that the minimum acceptable rim width for a 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". Please accept my apology for suggesting that we were not in agreement.
My bad, ssiperko. It appears I misread your posts. We are, in fact, in agreement that the minimum acceptable rim width for a 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". Please accept my apology for suggesting that we were not in agreement.
05-28-2002, 10:58 PM
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Re: Re: OOPS!
Originally posted by roastduck88
Hm.. so are you guys saying that my tire is gonna fall off because I'm using 7" rims with 235 / 45 / 17? Because I've been driving with it fine, esspecially on turns.
Hm.. so are you guys saying that my tire is gonna fall off because I'm using 7" rims with 235 / 45 / 17? Because I've been driving with it fine, esspecially on turns.
Can I run oversized tires on my stock 17" SE Rims?
Here's a link to Page 3 of the FAQs:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=3
05-29-2002, 03:20 AM
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Re: Re: Re: OOPS!
I've got 235/45s mounted on 17x7 wheels. The bulge looks normal & I've pushed the car to it's limits in lateral turns with no problems.
My .02 on all this is that my tires may not be recommended for my wheels but I've never heard of someone getting into an accident caused by this very combination of tires/wheels.
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My .02 on all this is that my tires may not be recommended for my wheels but I've never heard of someone getting into an accident caused by this very combination of tires/wheels.
Tony
05-29-2002, 04:37 AM
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Re: OOPS!
Originally posted by y2kse
My bad, ssiperko. It appears I misread your posts. We are, in fact, in agreement that the minimum acceptable rim width for a 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". Please accept my apology for suggesting that we were not in agreement.
My bad, ssiperko. It appears I misread your posts. We are, in fact, in agreement that the minimum acceptable rim width for a 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". Please accept my apology for suggesting that we were not in agreement.
We will ALWAYS be in agreement on this matter!We can not fight a war for you, we are keepers of the peace.
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05-29-2002, 06:26 AM
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Re: Re: OOPS!
Originally posted by ssiperko
Accepted but never really misunderstood! We will ALWAYS be in agreement on this matter!
We can not fight a war for you, we are keepers of the peace.
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Accepted but never really misunderstood!
We will ALWAYS be in agreement on this matter!We can not fight a war for you, we are keepers of the peace.
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05-29-2002, 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
[cheer]I'm going to hell for putting 235/45R17 on my factory wheels[/cheer]
[cheer]I'm going to hell for putting 235/45R17 on my factory wheels[/cheer]
In the meantime, you'll just have to satisfy yourself by joining that happy group of the mentally challenged.
05-29-2002, 08:45 AM
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It's a common sense thing
Originally posted by y2kse
But not too soon, I hope.
In the meantime, you'll just have to satisfy yourself by joining that happy group of the mentally challenged.
But not too soon, I hope.
In the meantime, you'll just have to satisfy yourself by joining that happy group of the mentally challenged.
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05-29-2002, 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by y2kse
But not too soon, I hope.
In the meantime, you'll just have to satisfy yourself by joining that happy group of the mentally challenged.
But not too soon, I hope.
In the meantime, you'll just have to satisfy yourself by joining that happy group of the mentally challenged.
17x9 38 offset 245/45R17, they compliment my brakes.
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05-29-2002, 09:26 AM
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Somewhat OT, but when I got my car, the guy before me was running 225 35 R 19s on there (below the weight load). All 4 tires ended up severely cracking on the sidewalls. The guy at the tire shop said that I could have had tread separation (like the Explorers did) at ANY moment and I am lucky to still be in one piece.
My point is that Y2KSE is right....you really don't want to mess with the specs. They are there for a reason.
My point is that Y2KSE is right....you really don't want to mess with the specs. They are there for a reason.
05-29-2002, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
Nah I'll just throw on another set of wheels that are in my basement.
17x9 38 offset 245/45R17, they compliment my brakes.
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Nah I'll just throw on another set of wheels that are in my basement.
17x9 38 offset 245/45R17, they compliment my brakes.
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05-29-2002, 11:04 AM
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Re: 235 45 17 Tires
Originally posted by jjames
I know.....this is in the Faq Forum. But, I was at Sears yesterday and they told me that the approved tires for my 2000 SE Opt was 235 45 17. This is cool because of the bigger selection of tires. However, I've read on the FAQ that you should NOT put this size tire on a stock 2k 17" rim.
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
I know.....this is in the Faq Forum. But, I was at Sears yesterday and they told me that the approved tires for my 2000 SE Opt was 235 45 17. This is cool because of the bigger selection of tires. However, I've read on the FAQ that you should NOT put this size tire on a stock 2k 17" rim.
Now, if the tire guide at the tire shop says it is OK, shouldn't it be OK? What am I missing here?
Do any of you have 235 45 17s on stock 17" rims?
Thanks
J
wow a newbie like me ( and with the same name too ).
i also had new 235/45/17's put on about a month and a half ago on my stock 17"s. the only problem was i *had* to cuz i was in a jam, and thats what merchant tire had for me. so far they seem to be fine ( my car knowledge though wouldn't be able to provide a detailed assesment though
)but i am looking to either get a new set of rims (they'll be wider to better fit the tires) or just replace the one stock wheel that was messed up. just trying to find where i can get them at . . .
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05-29-2002, 11:11 AM
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Re: Re: 235 45 17 Tires
Originally posted by VTblckmax
wow a newbie like me ( and with the same name too ).
i also had new 235/45/17's put on about a month and a half ago on my stock 17"s. the only problem was i *had* to cuz i was in a jam, and thats what merchant tire had for me. so far they seem to be fine ( my car knowledge though wouldn't be able to provide a detailed assesment though )
but i am looking to either get a new set of rims (they'll be wider to better fit the tires) or just replace the one stock wheel that was messed up. just trying to find where i can get them at . . .
PLP
wow a newbie like me ( and with the same name too ).
i also had new 235/45/17's put on about a month and a half ago on my stock 17"s. the only problem was i *had* to cuz i was in a jam, and thats what merchant tire had for me. so far they seem to be fine ( my car knowledge though wouldn't be able to provide a detailed assesment though
)but i am looking to either get a new set of rims (they'll be wider to better fit the tires) or just replace the one stock wheel that was messed up. just trying to find where i can get them at . . .
PLP
If you're comfortable running a tire/rim combo that's out of spec, go for it. But be aware that there's some risk involved in doing that. So at least take the time to acquaint yourself with the facts before you make up your mind.