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Old 05-30-2002, 05:19 AM
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1/4 results for 2k2 6spd

Well, I am a little dissappointed in myself with the results. I think I could have pulled at least .3-.4 better. I made 9 runs last night. Temp was between 65-75 while I was there. My runs ranged anywhere from 14.8-15.0 . I didnt get one clean run in. I kept either spinning the tire off the line, or missing 3rd gear.. Here is my best run:
R/T .573
60' 2.365
330' 6.415
1/8 9.684
mph 75.53
1000 12.477
1/4 14.843
mph 95.17

During this run I had some pretty good wheel spin in 1st, and I also tried to push it through the traps in 3rd, but it bounced off the rev limiter a couple times.
What do you guys think I can pull on a good 60' time ????
Also, does my trap speed look alright ????
Any suggestions on launching this thing ????
I launched it with the e-brake on slightly, and holding the rpm's @ about 2000RPM, but I tended to pop the clutch more than slipping it like I should have. Also I shifted at redline.

Next time I go up I am going to have my Eibach springs on, and I will slip the clutch more. Also I want to try shifting at about 6200rpm. Ya know keeping in the power band of 5000-6000 rpms the whole time. Hopefully this will bring me closer to a 2.1-2.2 60' time.....

Oh by the way my car is stock except a stillen intake, and it has about 4600miles on it. Ultra 94 gas used..

Anyone have any comments or suggestions????
Thanks ahead of time...

STEVE
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Old 05-30-2002, 06:10 AM
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Re: 1/4 results for 2k2 6spd

all i can say is keep practicing i have never been to the track and ran myself so i just hope i can get me auto in the 14's and my car is all stock motor but mods will start soon after i get all my suspension installed

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Well, I am a little dissappointed in myself with the results. I think I could have pulled at least .3-.4 better. I made 9 runs last night. Temp was between 65-75 while I was there. My runs ranged anywhere from 14.8-15.0 . I didnt get one clean run in. I kept either spinning the tire off the line, or missing 3rd gear.. Here is my best run:
R/T .573
60' 2.365
330' 6.415
1/8 9.684
mph 75.53
1000 12.477
1/4 14.843
mph 95.17

During this run I had some pretty good wheel spin in 1st, and I also tried to push it through the traps in 3rd, but it bounced off the rev limiter a couple times.
What do you guys think I can pull on a good 60' time ????
Also, does my trap speed look alright ????
Any suggestions on launching this thing ????
I launched it with the e-brake on slightly, and holding the rpm's @ about 2000RPM, but I tended to pop the clutch more than slipping it like I should have. Also I shifted at redline.

Next time I go up I am going to have my Eibach springs on, and I will slip the clutch more. Also I want to try shifting at about 6200rpm. Ya know keeping in the power band of 5000-6000 rpms the whole time. Hopefully this will bring me closer to a 2.1-2.2 60' time.....

Oh by the way my car is stock except a stillen intake, and it has about 4600miles on it. Ultra 94 gas used..

Anyone have any comments or suggestions????
Thanks ahead of time...

STEVE
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Old 05-30-2002, 07:04 AM
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With a good 60' time (2.1), I'd say you would be in the low 14s. It looks like you're trapping out at the right speed for your time. I don't think using the e-brake is helping your launch (maybe hurting it), but other 5 and 6 speed drivers would know better than me. Practice is the best mod you can make right now. I'd go back to the track as often as you can while you're still stock. That way, when you get your mods you'll see exactly how much difference they made. Good luck!
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Old 05-30-2002, 07:12 AM
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Re: 1/4 results for 2k2 6spd

Originally posted by Tallyman
Well, I am a little dissappointed in myself with the results. I think I could have pulled at least .3-.4 better. I made 9 runs last night. Temp was between 65-75 while I was there. My runs ranged anywhere from 14.8-15.0 . I didnt get one clean run in. I kept either spinning the tire off the line, or missing 3rd gear.. Here is my best run:
R/T .573
60' 2.365
330' 6.415
1/8 9.684
mph 75.53
1000 12.477
1/4 14.843
mph 95.17

During this run I had some pretty good wheel spin in 1st, and I also tried to push it through the traps in 3rd, but it bounced off the rev limiter a couple times.
What do you guys think I can pull on a good 60' time ????
Also, does my trap speed look alright ????
Any suggestions on launching this thing ????
I launched it with the e-brake on slightly, and holding the rpm's @ about 2000RPM, but I tended to pop the clutch more than slipping it like I should have. Also I shifted at redline.

Next time I go up I am going to have my Eibach springs on, and I will slip the clutch more. Also I want to try shifting at about 6200rpm. Ya know keeping in the power band of 5000-6000 rpms the whole time. Hopefully this will bring me closer to a 2.1-2.2 60' time.....

Oh by the way my car is stock except a stillen intake, and it has about 4600miles on it. Ultra 94 gas used..

Anyone have any comments or suggestions????
Thanks ahead of time...

STEVE
I can only speak for launching my 2k - you obviously have a lot more torque to deal with.

But, I can't see any reason to use the e-brake. Just tap the brakes when you get staged, that'll stop you.

We 2k/2k1 guys have found that launching at 4000-5000 rpms and walking out the clutch is the most effective way to prevent wheel hop and prevent the car from bogging off the line.

What I do is rev to about 4500 and hold. Then I'll let the clutch out a good bit at the launch. It is a matter of feel - what I think the track will hold without spinning much, while at the same time trying to keep the revs steady by feeding in gas. Then I continue to let the clutch out while going to full throttle. Believe me, I'm no expert and it has taken me quite a long time to get it down. Had my best 60' of 2.175 last weekend.

Also, reduce your front tire pressure to give better traction.
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Old 05-30-2002, 07:26 AM
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Re: Re: 1/4 results for 2k2 6spd

damn, 4500 rpm's! when i first started going to the track, ran from 1800-2000 rpms, then 2500, then 3000(best so far). but never went above that for fear of killin my clutch. but if ur getting a 2.1 60', wow! might need to try that sometime.


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I can only speak for launching my 2k - you obviously have a lot more torque to deal with.

But, I can't see any reason to use the e-brake. Just tap the brakes when you get staged, that'll stop you.

We 2k/2k1 guys have found that launching at 4000-5000 rpms and walking out the clutch is the most effective way to prevent wheel hop and prevent the car from bogging off the line.

What I do is rev to about 4500 and hold. Then I'll let the clutch out a good bit at the launch. It is a matter of feel - what I think the track will hold without spinning much, while at the same time trying to keep the revs steady by feeding in gas. Then I continue to let the clutch out while going to full throttle. Believe me, I'm no expert and it has taken me quite a long time to get it down. Had my best 60' of 2.175 last weekend.

Also, reduce your front tire pressure to give better traction.
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Old 05-30-2002, 07:28 AM
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It looks like your trap may be a bit low but your car was probably heat soaked after 9 runs

Your 60' really isn't all that bad, IMO, but the wheelspin hurt your trap, missing 3rd definitely hurt, and shifting at redline would hurt too. Do the 1-2 shift at redline, but the VQ35DE isn't the top-end screamer the the VQ30DE-K (222HP) is. Yeah, try shifting at around 6200rpm or so on the 2-3 and 3-4. That should help a little too.

What track was it (and elevation?) and what was the humidity like? Humidity can have a pretty big effect too.
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Old 05-30-2002, 07:42 AM
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Re: Re: Re: 1/4 results for 2k2 6spd

Originally posted by craaaazzy
damn, 4500 rpm's! when i first started going to the track, ran from 1800-2000 rpms, then 2500, then 3000(best so far). but never went above that for fear of killin my clutch. but if ur getting a 2.1 60', wow! might need to try that sometime.


Actually, the clutch seems to take it very well. I get off the clutch pretty quick and don't do a lot of consecutive runs.
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Old 05-30-2002, 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
It looks like your trap may be a bit low but your car was probably heat soaked after 9 runs

Your 60' really isn't all that bad, IMO, but the wheelspin hurt your trap, missing 3rd definitely hurt, and shifting at redline would hurt too. Do the 1-2 shift at redline, but the VQ35DE isn't the top-end screamer the the VQ30DE-K (222HP) is. Yeah, try shifting at around 6200rpm or so on the 2-3 and 3-4. That should help a little too.

What track was it (and elevation?) and what was the humidity like? Humidity can have a pretty big effect too.
I was at NE dragway in Epping,NH.. I am not sure what the elevation was. There was alot of moisture in the air, very foggy, and on the verge of raining all night.. I am sure that didnt help me..

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will try again maybe next week and keep you guy posted...
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
It looks like your trap may be a bit low but your car was probably heat soaked after 9 runs

Your 60' really isn't all that bad, IMO, but the wheelspin hurt your trap, missing 3rd definitely hurt, and shifting at redline would hurt too. Do the 1-2 shift at redline, but the VQ35DE isn't the top-end screamer the the VQ30DE-K (222HP) is. Yeah, try shifting at around 6200rpm or so on the 2-3 and 3-4. That should help a little too.

What track was it (and elevation?) and what was the humidity like? Humidity can have a pretty big effect too.
Steve don't forget that the 2002 Tach is slow by 400 RPM. So for the people that experiece a power drop off at 6000 RPM they should still shift at redline. I personaly shift at 6800 RPM
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The trap speed is kinda low.
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Old 05-30-2002, 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
Steve don't forget that the 2002 Tach is slow by 400 RPM. So for the people that experiece a power drop off at 6000 RPM they should still shift at redline. I personaly shift at 6800 RPM
Is that all 2k2's or is it sorta random? My tach seems pretty accurate based on speed vs rpm in various gears, but I have a 4th Gen.

I need an RSM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
Is that all 2k2's or is it sorta random? My tach seems pretty accurate based on speed vs rpm in various gears, but I have a 4th Gen.

I need an RSM
Every 2002 I have heard of has a fast tachometer. The 4th gen tach's seem to be pretty accurate.
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Originally posted by emax95


Every 2002 I have heard of has a fast tachometer. The 4th gen tach's seem to be pretty accurate.
How can you tell it's off? The RPMs and MPH don't match up in 4th gear?
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Technique

When at the line stage deep. Make sure you are stopped. Hold yer r's about 1800 to 2500 (depending on line condition/traction available) max on street tires. Your r/t is good so you've got the tree down. When you launch release the clutch smooooothly holding the throttle until you have the clutch almost all the way out then press it (don't floor it right away you want to drive away from the line) smoooothly. This process should get you just past the 60' mark with little spin or fanfare. You almost want to feel like you're slipping the clutch slightly. Try this out at the red lights and when it feels like no effort is involved and little wheel spin occurs you'll know you got it right! Once you have you launch down see what shift points will do for your times!
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Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE


How can you tell it's off? The RPMs and MPH don't match up in 4th gear?
From having the car on the dyno.
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Originally posted by emax95


From having the car on the dyno.
That would tell you Thanks Ethan.
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Re: Technique

Originally posted by ssiperko
When at the line stage deep. Make sure you are stopped. Hold yer r's about 1800 to 2500 (depending on line condition/traction available) max on street tires. Your r/t is good so you've got the tree down. When you launch release the clutch smooooothly holding the throttle until you have the clutch almost all the way out then press it (don't floor it right away you want to drive away from the line) smoooothly. This process should get you just past the 60' mark with little spin or fanfare. You almost want to feel like you're slipping the clutch slightly. Try this out at the red lights and when it feels like no effort is involved and little wheel spin occurs you'll know you got it right! Once you have you launch down see what shift points will do for your times!
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haha... how do you know SSIPERKO?.... did you throw a 6speed in there recently?

Just kiddin man... I'm sure if you're anything like your Bro, you have pistons in your heart...

Hey, does your Berk adaptor "touch" the wire harness & the AC(?) line?...

G
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