Guys i just needed to ask..... is the 5th gen max the shortest running max generation. 2000-2003. Thats realy short, how will that affect resale, i remember seeing a 2000 max for like 11 grand, with 56,000 miles on it. Im thinkin thats a super low price seeing there are still some 99 maximas runnin for that price!!! Im hearing on other threads that the maxima will be 29,000 base price!!! Im thinking majority of us(depending on finances)will look to other cars in the future to satisfy our (nissan)4dsc crave. mabey g35 or altima.

 

I don'tthink I would step down to a Altima I'd rather go up to the Infiniti and say bye bye to Nissan's crappy service dept.

 

me too... No stepping down for me infiniti G35 or the benz E500. I might hate to say goodbye to the maxima but Nissan is kind of forcing my hand with the resale value.

 

Here's my theory... The 2K2 and 2K3 5th Gen MT SE's will become very desirable. Values are low now, but they will increase!! Why, you ask? Consider this: They have the 3.5 and a 6 speed. The first Maximas to have that and they were only made for those 2 years. And the MT SE was a very small percent of the total production.

Now this all hinges on the popularity of the 2004 Max. If it is a 'flop', people may be scrambling to get the 5 Gen. It may turn out to be the best value for Nissan's 4DSC (3rd and 4th Gen owners will scoff at this, but, oh well) And because of the relatively few MT SE's, the value will skyrocket (supply and demand).

No flames, please...probably wishfull thinking on my part, (mainly cuz I have a 2K2 6 speed!) but hey...It could happen!!

 

I kind of see that happening, too. By the way, I love the 4th gen , so . . . . .scoff


DW

 

I guess th3 2k1 is then caught in the middle, with niether the hp of the 2k2 and not much of a price difference. I wonder what their values will be

 

Mods, baby, mods!! Get that HP up a bit...HID's and a tranny swap and you're good to go!!

 

hopefully, the short lifespan of the 5th generation Maxima's will help with the resale values.

 

I think you are right about the value of the 2k2-3 6 speeds. Look at the 3rd gen SE 5 speeds. Those cars are in demand (when they are in good condition). They are also hard to find and I think the 5 speeds were a greater percent of the production then. (I'm guessing).

 

only if you do a private sale to a person 'looking' for a 6 speed 255hp Maxima. remember that Maximas are still a 'family' sedan..a faster one than its competition but it's still a family sedan. dealers won't give a damn, in fact, they'll still like automatic tranny better cuz those are the ones that really sell.

 

You are 100% right. The thing is that any special niche market car needs to be sold on the private party side. A dealer only cares about his book value and marketability. This is as it should be. Of course it's easy for me to say that as I have always sold my cars rather than traded in.

 

Great !! But a tranny swap ?? I thought they were the same !! (I have an auto)....kinda wondering, is it possible to change the accelerator to the drive-by-wire system.

 

Sorry, I saw yours was an auto. My thought was to change yours to a 6 speed, but I have no idea if that can even be done.

 

3rd gen - 6 years
4th gen - 5 years
5th gen - 4 years

yep, a pattern forming...

 

Not just with Nissan. Everyone else, too. Look at Acura, Mercedes, Audi etc.

DW

 

4 yrs is just too short.........................
way too short
it took mercedes 12 yrs to produce a new sl
the 6th gen max took 1/3 of the time >.<
nissan is just showin its weakness :*(

 

4 yrs is just too short.........................
way too short
it took mercedes 12 yrs to come up with a new sl
the 6th gen max took 1/3 of the time >.<
nissan is just showin its weakness :*(

 

The 2k2 and 2k3 6 speeds are going to be popular 10 years from now. Just look at the 3rd gen, Nissan put the VE engine in them in 92,93 and 94 SE's only! and people still ****** them up when they can.

 

i was thinking, its kinda bad when you buy a new car and before you get a chance to really show it off, a new model comes out... Its kinda like cell phones. I bought my new phone a couple of months ago and before i could even show off with it, i see some kids running around with phones with colored screens and all kindsa neat junk. is there any word on aftermarket parts by NISMO in america yet. I remember hearing about it a few months ago but then the topic just disapeared... any word of nismo parts for any american nissan.

 

I think that Nissan did the right thing by cutting 5th gen off. They have to be more competitive compared to Honda and Toyota cars, and be able to come up with better product more often. When the 6th gen will come out, it will be more expensive, and it will be in ppls' minds that Maxima is expensive, so demand for used Maximas should rise, and we are going to see a slight increase on the resale value. The ones who will suffer here the most are new 6th gen owners. Having spent 30Gs on a car that will cost 20G's in a year...

 

Suckaaaaa. I think I will wait until around 2k5 and buy me a nice 2k2 or 2k3 6 speed, for well under $20k

 

What about the more popular Mercedes E class and S class?? They have shorter lifetimes, too. Much shorter than 12 years.

DW

 

Yes but they typically run a style for m ore than 4 model years. The E class ran from 96-02 which is 7 model years. Heck even the previous Accord ran for 5 model years 98-2002 and they typically do 4 year cycles.

 

OK. You got me on that one

DW

 

I will try to guess on 2004 speed SE.
270-280 HP
3400 lbs
6 speed (same as 2002)
More stringer emission controls
Ist year production in USA
2004 better handling

I bet 2002 has same or better acceleration and better reliability. So I still think 2002-2003 6 speed SE can have great future value and still be an attractive alternative to the 2004.
Just my 2 cents.

 

I think the Max enthusiats will desire the 5th gen, but the average consumer will have no clue, and the price will drop initially but stablize after the lease returns are in.

 

Here are the production years for those interested, though it maybe a trend that the production years are getting shorter, most japanese manufactures average 4 years.

1st Gen, 1981-1984 4 production years
2nd Gen-A 1985-1986
2nd Gen-B 1987-1988 4 production years
3rd Gen-A 1989-1992
3rd Gen-B 1993-1994 6 production years
4th Gen-A 1995-1996
4th Gen-B 1997-1999 5 production years
5th Gen-A 2000-2001
5th Gen-B 2002-2003

The letter A stands for the original generation design. This started with 2nd gens, and has continued on through all following generations.
The letter B stands for minor changes from original design, include exterior, interior, or mechanical changes.

Hope this means something...
Sarin

 

Actually 3rd gen.B should be 1992-1994 and A should be 1989-1991, the restyled it in 92.

 

I think the whole desirability issue of the 6 speed Maximas is relative. In an enthusiasts forum such as the org, sure, the 6 speed will be desired and sought after as have the 5 speed 4th gens, but in the "regular world" where 90% of the people that buy these cars buy them for transportation, the autos will be more desireable now and in 10 years. I owned manuals in a Mustang and a pair of Accords and the values on those cars was less than comparable auto versions.

It's a simple fact of life that most people would prefer to buy an auto version of a car for various reasons and will pay more for it. I like shifting my own gears as much as the next guy, but I think those are the simple facts.

 

Yes, but manuals are becoming more and more rare. Autos are a dime a dozen. The demand for manuals is not great, especially when compared to autos, but the supply of manual trannies has trickled down to be less than demand these days.

DW

 

My bad! That's what I meant! I tend to type to fast and overlook small things like that.

 

I just think the 5th gen will be more desirable because it is better looking. Who wants to drive the 2004? They butchered it. I'd fire all the designers because that car looks like a P.O.S. And yeah the 5th gen lifespan is way too short to be introducing a new model...

 

Do we know what MT was a small percentage? I know it's always a small percentage of any car sales, but I'd be willing to bet it went up some for 2k2/2k3. It seems everyone on the ORG has a 6-speed, and most of them I see in parking lots are 6-speed. In fact, most new cars I see are MT, I wonder if their popularity is rising in general?