mdmartin92

It had dark tinted windows doing a slow drive by and looked real sharp. I wish I had more time to look but I was coaching first base during my son's baseball game. This was the first 04 I have seen on the road and I really like the aggressive look of the car especially from the rear quarter panel view. I might have to see what the dealer is selling them for, I only owe $15,000 on my 2k2 SE with 17,000 miles on it.

MaxAppeal

invoice+ $100-$300. talk to the fleet/internet manager ONLY! call first to set price, THEN go in.

www.edmunds.com to get invoice price.

but why loose your a** for a new car. the 2k2 is still new. can you say college fund. unless you're banking on a baseball scholarship

gmc74

it is way more fun to play all the Nissan dealers against eachother via the phone and email...

95emeraldgxe

they started selling maximas at invoice already? last time i heard they still going at sticker

gmc74

I got mine for just a bit over invoice in the middle of April. They tried to tell me that they were selling them at MSRP, I laughed... then I left and told them to call me when they were reasonable. They called the next day and the games began.

bluemaxx

Bought mine on 05/31, they are under invoice now.

ch13f

I'm curious, how much does it actually cost to produce a new car? Like in relation to the invoice price.. maybe 50% of that or something?

MaxAppeal

how far under?

gmc74

It depends on the car. I know that Ford made $18K on each Lincoln Navigator that was sold the first year they were out. That is Ford Motor Co, not the dealer. A car like that fetches a premium, but doesn't cost much more than the Expedition which is priced $14K less.

95emeraldgxe

i think if the grilles were body color, it would look much better, but then again they'll start resembling grand prix's

SilverFlash

Generally auto manufacturers like to make a 5% NET profit on a vehicle. For example, a $30,000 dealer invoice would net $1500 profit for the manufacturer.
As stated above some producers are making a killing such as the SUV market. I heard the same figure on the Fords as well. GM also makes NET profit on their Suburbans of at least $10,000 per vehicle. Diamler is similar on some of their models.
This is why SUV's are such a damn joke IMHO. The consumer is essentially going into a dealer and realizing he is getting raped by $10,000 over a invoice. I pitty the fools who buy those dumb, big *** things