Heater Core gurgling Noise/TSB(NTB03-072)
#1
Heater Core gurgling Noise/TSB(NTB03-072)
2004 SE dpp 8K miles (9xx VIN) here.
Just today I started hearing a weird noise coming from behind the dash when I change the mode of my heater. It's really hard to explain, it almost sounds like a 'squeak' or when you would rub a balloon with your hand. These are pretty poor examples but I found this TSB:
NTB03-072 - If you confirm that "air can be heard circulating in the heater system".
It really doesn't sound like air and only makes a brief noise when I change the mode. Has anyone else heard this before? If so does it make a constant sound or only when you change the mode?
Thanks in advance!
Just today I started hearing a weird noise coming from behind the dash when I change the mode of my heater. It's really hard to explain, it almost sounds like a 'squeak' or when you would rub a balloon with your hand. These are pretty poor examples but I found this TSB:
NTB03-072 - If you confirm that "air can be heard circulating in the heater system".
It really doesn't sound like air and only makes a brief noise when I change the mode. Has anyone else heard this before? If so does it make a constant sound or only when you change the mode?
Thanks in advance!
#2
I had this fixed on my last service. I had two problems. First was a gurgling noise and that was what I wanted fixed. It took them two hours work the bubbles out but they did it. I also had a 'squeak' that I couldn't pinpoint. It did sound like air 'leaking' under intense pressure. It would come and go as the air kicked on and off. Now that I think about it, it may be gone also. Since my wife drives the car 99% of the time, I'll check with her.
-Robert
-Robert
#3
Heater core noise
I had a loud whirring noise that came from between the front seats and under the dash. It happened most often when the ac was turned up high and one or two ducts were closed.
After demonstrating this to the dealer 3 or 4 times they finall agreed that it was the 'heater core' problem. To fix this problem and change the heater core they need to remove the entire dash board, steering wheel and many other components. I found this out by walking to the rear of the service center shortly before they closed and stumbled upon my car.
Parts damaged during this "repair":
1. 2 steering column moldings scratched.
2. Both C pilar moldings scratched
3. 3 of the 4 scuff plates (w/ maxima logo) scratched.
4. Passenger side lower door molding speaker cover scratched and banged up.
5. Both body side molding (the color matched thing with the 3 steps just outside the door opening running from the front wheel well to the rear wheel well) nicked and scratched at multiple locations.
Be very wary of having this "fixed" if it is only intermittently a problem.
After demonstrating this to the dealer 3 or 4 times they finall agreed that it was the 'heater core' problem. To fix this problem and change the heater core they need to remove the entire dash board, steering wheel and many other components. I found this out by walking to the rear of the service center shortly before they closed and stumbled upon my car.
Parts damaged during this "repair":
1. 2 steering column moldings scratched.
2. Both C pilar moldings scratched
3. 3 of the 4 scuff plates (w/ maxima logo) scratched.
4. Passenger side lower door molding speaker cover scratched and banged up.
5. Both body side molding (the color matched thing with the 3 steps just outside the door opening running from the front wheel well to the rear wheel well) nicked and scratched at multiple locations.
Be very wary of having this "fixed" if it is only intermittently a problem.
#4
I had the noise, and the fix (and as far as I was aware, the TSB) did not require removal of anything from the interior of the car. Air is simply stuck in the core, and makes a gurgling to whooshing noise, depending on the engine RPM. At lower revs, the air inside just gurgles around a bit. Increase revs and the flow of coolant throught the core produces a bit more of a whooshing noise. The dealer told me that they had the most success bleeding out the air by lifting the front end of the car on the hoist while running the motor. Instead of having them do this, I just parked on a steep hill, facing uphill, and held the engine revs up for about 30 seconds. Problem solved. May or may not work for you, the steeper the hill the better.
#5
I've got the same noise, but I dread taking my car into the dealer, especially for something like this. I personally always seem to come out of the deal with more issues (like Maxycat above).
I'm going to try Manitoba's fix. If it doesn't work, I'll live with the noise.
I'm going to try Manitoba's fix. If it doesn't work, I'll live with the noise.
#6
Liquid moving sound
I've been hearing this strange sound lately coming from underneath my center console between the front seats. I hear it mainly when i brake and accelerate. It sounds like some liquid sloshing back and forth. The only thing I can think of that would be in that area would be the trans. I don't recall hearing this noise until recently. I checked the trans fluid level and its fine. Anyone else notice this on their cars? Oh and I checked under the seats and in the console....I didn't leave a bottle of water in there or anything .
#12
Originally Posted by us024077
uh...fwd means there is no transmission under the center console between the seats
Let me better explain. Its coming from radio consolde area, not under the armrest. More towards the engine bay. So you think its............
#13
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On cold days pulling out of my driveway I would here something sloshing around that area but I believe its cause my car has been sitting over night and all the liquids have settled and when my car goes down the driveway it cause the liquid to shift around, but it only happens once and then its fine. Is yours reoccuring and while driving or just around start up?
#15
Heater core
The water you here is air in the cooling system. You have to get your cooling system bled. I took mine in and they bled it ,I had to take it back. The radiator had a crack in a seam. They ordered and put in a new radiator. That took care of the problem.
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Originally Posted by hempster
The water you here is air in the cooling system. You have to get your cooling system bled. I took mine in and they bled it ,I had to take it back. The radiator had a crack in a seam. They ordered and put in a new radiator. That took care of the problem.
#17
I too thought there was a TSB on this problem, but looked and could not find one. If you are still under warranty, take it to the dealer and they can flush your cooling system to get the air out. It may take more than one try to fix the problem. I have learned to live with the very slight noise.
#18
#20
Originally Posted by glennjr
Same problem here with the water sloshing. If i can deal with the noise should i bother having the dealer mess with it??
#22
When I was younger we used to bleed heater cores by taking the radiator cap off, letting the engine run till warm, then turn on the heater. As the water starts circulating the air exits via the radiator cap.
Can this be done with new cars? If so its an easy fix.
Can this be done with new cars? If so its an easy fix.
#23
I have a constant noise coming from behind the dash. Just a minor noise but none the less it is noise that recently started. I am not going to take it to the dealer b/c Nissan just made their buy back offer on mine. So it is their problem not mine. She is just temporarily mine I guess. I still love this car.
#25
this happens often and Manitoba Max nailed it. I just did this with my last week. Open the radiator cap (cold obviously) and run/rev the engine til the gurggling stops and you are golden.
my new noise coming from under the hood is now the "electronic motor mounts" happens when i turn the key to aux power and then when i shut it off...electronic motor mounts...stupid things squeel like a pig.
my new noise coming from under the hood is now the "electronic motor mounts" happens when i turn the key to aux power and then when i shut it off...electronic motor mounts...stupid things squeel like a pig.
#27
I was at Koeppel this morning and told them I had the gurgling and sloshing water sound on start up but since the techs couldn't duplicate the sound they didn't even attempt to bleed the system. They told me to bring the car when I could leave it overnight so they can hear the noise but i'm going to try some of the fixes listed here first because going to the dealership is a pain for me.
#28
trapped water???
when taking off from a start, it sounds as if there is a gallon of water sloshing around...it sounds like water rushing thru a gutter/downspout except I don't see it pouring to the ground!!!...has anyone heard this same noise(maybe it has nothing to do with the rain, but it is the second time I've heard it and both times after a steady/heavy rain)?? trapped water will, no doubt, cause serious problems down the road
#31
Originally Posted by 2ndZ
I wish I had a dealer I could trust...so long as the 'air pocket' is not detrimental to my cars performance I will leave it alone...I will try the suggested "park on a steep hill and run engine at high rpms" home remedy
It's easy enough to fix and you can do it yourself. Look through the TSB sticky for the details. Parking it on an incline isn't just a home remedy, it is the remedy.
#32
Originally Posted by bluemaxx
It's easy enough to fix and you can do it yourself. Look through the TSB sticky for the details. Parking it on an incline isn't just a home remedy, it is the remedy.
thanks
Walter
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