Hi All ,

I see that the japanese market has the new Nissan Fuga, which is your M45, however it seems the M35 is to be or already lauched ?

It has a high output version of the 3.5 and comes rear wheel drive or all wheel drive . The body is very similar to the Australian Maxima but with a rear or all wheel FN platform ...

Could this be the basis of the 7th Gen ?

 

edit...nevermind.

 

I certainly hope Nissan will base the 7th gen off it. The new M45 is a very nice car. The only downside is that the base price is nearly $47,000. I can see a stripped down Nissan branded one costing in the high 30s. That would be quite a bump in price over the 6th gen.

 

Looks great, could be the next gen? Japan will probably wait a year and see how the Max market is going, if sales remain strong, the 6th gen may stay around another year or two with minor tweaks. Costs a lot to retool a plant and pump out a new platform, Japans current economy is flat and in typical Japanese style, they will choose the conservative approach. But hey, lets all wait and see what happens, and AWD version would be HOT, HOT, HOT...

 

Yeah, I really like the new M, it's much better than the old one (of course). And I think that this is part of your confusion; Infiniti has had an M45 for a while now, but (as far I know) there was never an M35 varient until now. I've often wondered if the M45's engine (is it a new design?) is as smooth or reliable as the VQ35.

As far as the M's styling cues being injected into the 7th gen Maxima, no one here really knows - but it very well could (just not too much - I don't think Nissan would want to blur the line between the Nissan and Infiniti line too much). I just hope that they give the 7th (or 6.5th) gen Max an MP3 player and remove the tape player.

 

I can see a later gen Maxima being based off of the M, but I don't think it'll be that expensive. I don't think Nissan will make that big of a jump in price, but if they do, they'll just have the Altima take the Maxima's place price-wise and styling(i.e. Maxima will be a luxury car and the Altima will be a sports car with the luxury of the Maxima). Just my thoughts.

 

There probably is a big chance that the 7th generation Maxima will take some of its cues from the M45. I would expect that the 7th gen would also be AWD because right now Nissan can't really up the hp in Maxima anymore, because it is FWD, and they need to do something awesome with the 7th gen, because the Altima/SE-R are way to close to the Maxima, in my opinion.

 

The M35 would replace it faster than the M45. It(M35) is already released, saw it in a magazine reveiw.

RWD =
Same intake manifold of G/350Z =

 

In Bahrain (my country), the sixth gen maximas have not been launched...

why? i asked.

Answer: They are going to be replaced with an infiniti.

They wouldn't tell me which Infiniti though.

 

I saw one on the lot this past weekend. Actually I saw about 8 at Clearlake Infiniti. I'm very tempted to break the bank and dump my Max. The fully loaded M35 is just like the Max but it has more gadgets. Entertainment system and on and on....

The car is sweet! I'm gonna test drive one this weekend, just to see what it feels like on the road. I'll try not to leave with them holding my light bill money!

 

This is just a personal opinion, but why get the M35, just go for the M45 if you can affors it if not, and if I were to get a 3.5 in infiniti badging, I'd get a G ...

 

Hi

Just outa interest ask them if the 35 is fitted with a CVT auto , Nissan world wide has indicated that it want to see 50% of all auto transmission fitted in its new vehicles CVT by 2007 ? Because you can bet your bottom dollar that the new maxima and altima models will have them in the next generation.. on account of parts uniformity/production costings and such like.

 

chern - As far as Maxima styling, we can count on minor tweaks to front and rear on the '06, nothing changed on the '07, and a complete redesign for the '08 (7th gen). This will be the route Nissan follows no matter how sales are going.

One major mag (either Road and Track or Car and Driver) recently tested eight four door sedans in the $45K to $55K range (including a BMW, Mercedes, Jag, Lexus, Volvo, etc), and pronounced the M45 as the best of the lot. They had rave reviews for it.

I would feel Nissan would prefer the price of the Maxima to range from the high twenties to no more than $35K. Once prices reach the $40K area, there are lots of other choices to tempt the buyer.

Observing this price range, the 7th gen Maxima may not be as much like the 45 as we might like.

 

^^ We're talking about the ***M35*** (3.5L vs 4.5L)

 

this thread is void........ this will not happen in the US... these are two diffrent cars here...


now, out of the country maybe since infiniti are nissans out there...

 

I Hope Not

 

RWD Max would be cool though . . .

 

my 2 cents... if I wanted an infiniti logo it would be the M45 Sport. anything less and you are a "wanna be". think about it, we all have max's and why would we want a 280HP M35 when 338HP is available on the M45? The 6th gens have 265HP stock so why spend all that cash for 15extra HP and styling of the M35? doesn't make sense.

That said the M is beautiful car. Nissan\Infiniti are killing the competition right now.

 

That's the way I see, kinda like BMW owners taht get a 325, when we all know they wanted an M3 and couldnt afford it .. that's also my .02.

 

You guys cannot be serious. Just b/c you don't get the V-8 does not mean your a poesur. Many people DO NOT want such power and deem it excessive. And the new V-6s are quite fast, heck ya'll should know the VQ that is in the Max is in the M35 and is a WONDERFUL engine, making the M35 a great drive too.

V-8s are a great option to have but the V-6 versions greatly outsell them.

 

Geez guys, just don't think Nissan is going to radically change the Max for the next 3 years and don't think the 7th gen will be bumping into Infinity territory. I'm sure their marketing research tells them to keep a line of distinction between the Nissan and Infinity lines just like Honda does between the Honda and Acura divisions. I think that Toyota has made a mistake by pricing the top of the line Avalon Limited into Lexus territory. Going to be interesting to see how many people pay 38k for a Toyota that gets no loaner service and is serviced by the same people that service Corollas in the next bay. I'm not saying that the Max won't evolve, but nothing radical like AWD or RWD as it would make the Max much too expensive for people like me who looked at the Accord and Camry as an alternative to the Max, but stayed out of Infinity, Lexus and Acura pricing territory. In fact, without the proper pricing discounts on my two Max's, the wife would be driving a new Accord and I'd still have my 2002 convertible. It's one thing to spend 25 to 30K for a car and another thing to spend 35K and up. Especially if you are a two car family. Just my two cents worth, but Nissan has got to be thinking that the Max is fine for people like me and that those of you who have a Max now, and, more income tomorrow, will just move up to the Infinity line. As for bigger engines and more power, who needs it. With higher oil prices here to stay do I really need a V8 or more than 265hp. Can't drive the 140mph the Max can do now, so what would I do with more HP. Again, just my two "common" cents.

 

The Nissan Fuga or also known as the Infiniti M35 will not replace the maxima since the Maxima version we get in US is only for us and back in japan it is another version of a maxima. The Nissan Fuga will always be the M infiniti here.

 

[QUOTE=NmexMAX] That's the way I see, kinda like BMW owners taht get a 325, when we all know they wanted an M3 and couldnt afford it ..

as they say in the hood... "you aint never lied!"

 

I agree that the M35 will not replace the Max, however I do believe that Nissan will be doing something to the 7th generation Maxima. They will probably change the way it looks and probably add some more features, like tire pressure monitoring system for those that want to put run flat tires on their Max. They will also probably want to add more hp and if they want to do that, then they will probably go AWD.

 

I think the 6th gen. will get nothing more than the normal exterior and interior tweaking each year and will probably run the full five year replacement cycle with the 7th gen. being a 2009. Remember, this 6th gen Max was a pretty radical change, with an all new platform, suspension, and a healthy dose of extra horsepower from the 3.5 engine. If you want to look into the future of the 6th gen down the road a couple of years, I would expect to see a "hybrid" version as the Altima will get one next year. Since Honda already has a hybrid Accord and Toyota is looking at building hybrid Camrys and Avalons, I can see the Max getting a hybrid option in 2007, once Nissan gets some sales feedback from the hybrid Altima. As for much more horsepower or AWD/RWD, just don't see it in the Max's future. What would we do with a 300hp Max anyway? We've got 0 to 60 now in the mid 6's and a 140mph governed top end so who needs more power and worse gas mileage. Personally, with the cost of oil today and in the future I think the horsepower wars are over, just no need for more speed as there is no practical way to use the power we have now, nevermind more power. Also, as for AWD/RWD, just don't think Nissan is going to price this car into Infinity territory and canablalize low end Infinity sales. Right now, if you add Nav and XM to a top of the line Max, without the elite package, you are looking at a 36K sticker and I just don't think you can sell 38k to 40k Max's when the Infinity G would be a better fit at that price. Also, if you want to see what the future redesign of the Max will look like in the 7h gen we should know the direction Nissan will take when the next gen Altima comes out.

 

Infiniti (cars) has an *I*, just a pet peeve of mine. You made a lot of good points though. But some of us are different and we like horsepower. The more the merrier.

 

I am pretty sure that the 7th generation will be coming out in 2008, not 2009, Nissan is not on a 5-year generation cycle, they are on a 4-year generation cycle.

 

Infiniti is still spelled with an *I* regardless of when the new Max comes out Just messing with ya.

 

Guys it all about Nissan profits. Like I said a few times thay have to produce an AWD very soon. Almost all the others have one. The SUV (Stupid utility Vechile) sold like hot cakes to everyone who wanted to be in the trend. You know the me too guys and gals. This was sold on size and 4WD. Countless TV ads of some fool climbing a mountian. With the gas prices on the rise the SUV craze is winding down. Whats next. AWD cars. Sell safety, and handeling. VW had the right idea. AWD Passat in the engine of your choice. Even the beefy Wolfsburg. Nissan has to answer.

Getting back to profits. AWD = more parts. that = more repairs. AWD = a much more expensive MAx. Hence more profit.

I don't think they are going to roll out the 7th gen with standard AWD but I thik it will be an option. As for the V8, why not. AWD will correct the torque steer problem so thats no longer an issue. Here's an idea. a supercharged AWD v6 Max. You guys know they make the best engines. I think it's cheaper to supercharge a MAx then adding a v8. no suspension changes at all and let's think about all the rerouting under the hood. It makes assembly line sense and that again my friends = profit. I expect a car like that to be in the 40s. I can't wait! Roll the biatch out!

 

A supercharged AWD V6 Maxima would be pretty HOT.

 

ummmmmmmm yeah .........

 

While we are on the subject of speculation of replacing the Maxima, check out this thread:

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1

It appears as though the Teana has been spotted in Califorina.. some suspect that it might be an addition/replacement to the Nissan lineup between the Altima and Maxima (if the Max were to get AWD or something else). Anyway, interesting none-the-less.

 

Looks like you may be see a LHD version of my car over there , looks like a Tiawan LHD version, but they don't have chromed grills , so who knows .. Bet is the AWD version with the CVT JDM spec tranny.. stands to reson that you would want to market an AWD in the states with all you snow and stuff ..they also come with 3 engine line up from 2.5 lt to 3.5lt.

They have a new plant in Japan for this vehicle so I bet that you will be seeing it soon and it will be the JDM build version. Wonder what they will call it and where it will fit in you line up..

Hey that means I will have to move forum cuse my Maxima will be a Cefiro or other name over there ...woooo is me .....

 

Yea. after writing that I coulden't sleep.

 

Will that ever happen ...

 

Ok Guys!

I drove the M45....... DAYUM!!!!!!!!

It took all my will and my wife's will to get me off that lot! I mean, that thing is...... just........ Beautiful!!!!! It has everything and more than a BMW or E Class. The interior is just...... DAYUM!!!!!! The ride is like being in a Max that is supercharged. The wife said that as soon as she felt me hit the gas she went into thoughts of how to get me off the lot without me going to sit at the table with the sales guy.

I'm still in withdrawals and I'm thinking about going back over to the dealer at the end of the month. No...... I got to fight it..... I WILL NOT GO BACK!!!! But, it's just callin' me!!!!!

Surround sound......
Lane departure detection....
Wood Grain to die for....
Your body wrapped in leather that just holds you like..... ummmm nevermind...

If you haven't driven this car yet, you are missing a treat. Also, if you don't really want to spend the money for it. Go when you are absolutely BROKE! If you go in there with any money at all you will buy it!!!

Ps. I was too overwhelmed by the car to ask about the CVT. Sorry! isht happens!

 

Id expect a car that costs as much as 2 maxi's to be that much better...
But nissan is not going to scrap its flagship name, if anything, perhaps, an M body might be badged as a maxima with a souped up six. Its supposed to be better by a big margin, thats their marketing plan. Just because infiniti is pumping up its line, it does not mean the top end of the nissan line will suffer, theres probobly better things that will come of this....Do they even share the same platform? The M is a bigger platform I think, and the G is the max...so if anything, we're going to see the max catch up to the G soon. But because the G/Altima/Max are all the same platform I think..when nissan wants to improve the max it may share a platform with the M or Q...
But the best nissan will never be a carbon copy of the best Infiniti. Toyota's flagship avalon is on the GS430's platform...the LS still stands alone, like the Q45.

 

The lines are similar to the Max. The exhaust is definately the same as the Max. The difference is the interior and the VQ has a kick in the ****! This is a BAAAAAAAAAADDDDDD CAR!!!!