Basic Mods to see 300hp from the Max
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
United States = The land of the offended.
. Lets get back to what this tread is about or have a moderater close it.
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Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
Chernmax - as to your earlier statements of me stepping into the light on a used M3 vs a modded MAX. Brother, I respect you and Ramberg but you need to step back to reality. Show me a MAX that can hit 4.7 from 0-60 and post numerous legit 1/4 times in the low 13's and I'll show you a MAX that spent MORE on the car and mods than I would on a used M3 that can do that $hit STOCK...
Sorry but it's the truth... But keep on do what your doin'. I got virtually the same mods as you and ramberg, got legit dyno's from a Dynojet that didn't post nearly what this "mustang" dyno did for you guys. Spent $30K on my ride initially and have dumped at least another $5-7 K in mods into bringin it up to about $38 - 40K invested with labor. Now I have a buddy willing to sell me his 02' M3 at $37K and it can and does hit those numbers listed above - STOCK...
Am I going to buy it? Maybe, maybe not - my pride from having spent so much has got me sticking with the max - I love her, she's a cruiser - but she DEFINITELY ain't no M3 - that's reality brother...
That's my .02 and I'm done with this thread.
Peace
Sorry but it's the truth... But keep on do what your doin'. I got virtually the same mods as you and ramberg, got legit dyno's from a Dynojet that didn't post nearly what this "mustang" dyno did for you guys. Spent $30K on my ride initially and have dumped at least another $5-7 K in mods into bringin it up to about $38 - 40K invested with labor. Now I have a buddy willing to sell me his 02' M3 at $37K and it can and does hit those numbers listed above - STOCK...
Am I going to buy it? Maybe, maybe not - my pride from having spent so much has got me sticking with the max - I love her, she's a cruiser - but she DEFINITELY ain't no M3 - that's reality brother...
That's my .02 and I'm done with this thread.
Peace
Also, think of the extra cost savings if someone bought a used 05 max and the bigger cost gap of a used 05 Max verse a used 02 M3, your talking about a superb VQ35 and lets say an estimated 16 grand for performance mods. The potential exists, right now however, 6th gens will have to wait their turn like every other generation max for the performance enhancements to catch up. Peace bro, thanks for the followup...
Originally Posted by JClaw
Bull****. I hit 13.32 (and a previous run that would have been a 13.20 according to the 1/8 time) and I have 3000$ in mods + 3200$ for the car. Show me a decent M3 worth less than 6.2k.
VQ35 + no weight = teh fast
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Sunroof + windows down. I never used my A/C even when it was working 100% last year. I don't like driving with the windows up and when they're down it's a waste of A/C anyway.
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Sunroof + windows down. I never used my A/C even when it was working 100% last year. I don't like driving with the windows up and when they're down it's a waste of A/C anyway.[/QUOTE]
You know, you jump in the mix starting out with a dumba$$ comment and you have no idea why the original "No A/C Belt" comment was made.
Answer one simple question, is your A/C belt attached?
If yes, shut it.
The comment is based on SR20DEN dyno run where he took off his A/C belt and achieved a higher pull as a result.
Damn young kids, alligator mouth with a pea brain...
You know, you jump in the mix starting out with a dumba$$ comment and you have no idea why the original "No A/C Belt" comment was made.
Answer one simple question, is your A/C belt attached?
If yes, shut it.
The comment is based on SR20DEN dyno run where he took off his A/C belt and achieved a higher pull as a result.
Damn young kids, alligator mouth with a pea brain...
Originally Posted by chernmax
''Sunroof + windows down. I never used my A/C even when it was working 100% last year. I don't like driving with the windows up and when they're down it's a waste of A/C anyway.''
You know, you jump in the mix starting out with a dumba$$ comment and you have no idea why the original "No A/C Belt" comment was made.
You know, you jump in the mix starting out with a dumba$$ comment and you have no idea why the original "No A/C Belt" comment was made.
Originally Posted by chernmax
Answer one simple question, is your A/C belt attached?
If yes, shut it.
If yes, shut it.
Originally Posted by chernmax
The comment is based on SR20DEN dyno run where he took off his A/C belt and achieved a higher pull as a result.
Originally Posted by chernmax
Damn young kids, alligator mouth with a pea brain...
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Err...ummm...excuse me guys but aren't we way OT here?
I mean, talking A/C, M3, etc.?
Back to the original question, don't you think that the mods I mentioned way back when this thread was still on topic would get you close to that 300 HP mark (flywheel...not at the front wheel)?
This is 35 HP we are talking here. That's a 13% improvement over stock. I would think that shouldn't be that difficult to do assuming a person is willing to run "illegal" in the emissions department and possibly (if not probably) void his warranty.
BTW, as far as what car is faster for the money, you can always get a beat up old Mustang or Firebird etc. and drop in an old larger displacement engine and be much quicker than a 6th gen, but there is more to driving (and life) than a 1/4 mile, and there will always be quicker, better handling, sharper looking cars out there. It's just the way it is. I can live with that.
I mean, talking A/C, M3, etc.?
Back to the original question, don't you think that the mods I mentioned way back when this thread was still on topic would get you close to that 300 HP mark (flywheel...not at the front wheel)?
This is 35 HP we are talking here. That's a 13% improvement over stock. I would think that shouldn't be that difficult to do assuming a person is willing to run "illegal" in the emissions department and possibly (if not probably) void his warranty.
BTW, as far as what car is faster for the money, you can always get a beat up old Mustang or Firebird etc. and drop in an old larger displacement engine and be much quicker than a 6th gen, but there is more to driving (and life) than a 1/4 mile, and there will always be quicker, better handling, sharper looking cars out there. It's just the way it is. I can live with that.
[QUOTE=darrinps]Err...ummm...excuse me guys but aren't we way OT here?
You are correct. This started after I posted my Dyno Slip. The tech who did the dyno said about 310 at the crank and a couple of members started to knock it down. If you feel that you have the information that you need, please close the tread because it going downhill. Later Warren
You are correct. This started after I posted my Dyno Slip. The tech who did the dyno said about 310 at the crank and a couple of members started to knock it down. If you feel that you have the information that you need, please close the tread because it going downhill. Later Warren
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I hope you get banned.
ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN CAN READ THE PRECEDING THREADS AND DETERMINE THAT YOU JUMPED IN WITH A DUMBA$$ COMMENT QUOTING ME SO I HOPE YOU GET A NICE VACATION...
GO CRY SOMEPLACE ELSE..
Originally Posted by JClaw
A/C is for pussies 
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Ramberg, Chernmax, y'all have the highest respect from the 6th generation family. Just walk away from this thread, y'all are two big for this kind of internet bickering.
You both have two of the fastest 6th gen maximas around. Nuff said.
You both have two of the fastest 6th gen maximas around. Nuff said.
this one. 
Cool deal Chernamx and Ramberg - you guys are two of my favorite posters and modders. Much respect and I hope we can break that 300hp mark soon 
Ramberg - my dyno was 219hp and 229tq.
Jclaw - my response was posed for the 6th gens and their cost of being able to make them hit those kind of numbers That's awesome that you posted those times. Good job.
Ramberg - my dyno was 219hp and 229tq.
Jclaw - my response was posed for the 6th gens and their cost of being able to make them hit those kind of numbers That's awesome that you posted those times. Good job.
Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
Jclaw - my response was posed for the 6th gens and their cost of being able to make them hit those kind of numbers That's awesome that you posted those times. Good job.
Jclaw - I know, that's what sucks for us 6th genners that are performance / speed junkies I get pissed cause every tech company jumped all over doing mods on G35 and Z mods and it seems as though everyone has given up on the Max. My main motivation when I bought this was because I was sold on the reputation of the Max being the "4 door sports car". Now it seems that they have ditched that image and are going for the more upscale image.
It's all good though, I just bought one of these for my speed fix and it only has a piddly 123 hp
I get pissed cause every tech company jumped all over doing mods on G35 and Z mods and it seems as though everyone has given up on the Max. My main motivation when I bought this was because I was sold on the reputation of the Max being the "4 door sports car". Now it seems that they have ditched that image and are going for the more upscale image.It's all good though, I just bought one of these for my speed fix and it only has a piddly 123 hp
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Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
Jclaw - I know, that's what sucks for us 6th genners that are performance / speed junkies I get pissed cause every tech company jumped all over doing mods on G35 and Z mods and it seems as though everyone has given up on the Max. My main motivation when I bought this was because I was sold on the reputation of the Max being the "4 door sports car". Now it seems that they have ditched that image and are going for the more upscale image.
It's all good though, I just bought one of these for my speed fix and it only has a piddly 123 hp
I get pissed cause every tech company jumped all over doing mods on G35 and Z mods and it seems as though everyone has given up on the Max. My main motivation when I bought this was because I was sold on the reputation of the Max being the "4 door sports car". Now it seems that they have ditched that image and are going for the more upscale image.It's all good though, I just bought one of these for my speed fix and it only has a piddly 123 hp
No complaints, I still love the 6th gen max...
Peace Bro...
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Originally Posted by ramberg
Stillen sells the cams. About 1300 dollars plus what ever installation costs. I don't think alot of the members would want to start messing around in the engine if they are under warranty. Later Warren
Originally Posted by RHMax
I understand that, but I don't see a way to get 300hp w/o walking away from the warranty. Unless your next dyno show similar numbers as your first, then we'll know.
Actually, any mod can void the warranty...whether it be a K&N panel filter or a set of cams
Originally Posted by ramberg
You called maybe 85% of the members who have A/C pussies. Maybe you should get banned. If you are going to give it, be able to take it. Later Warren
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Originally Posted by cardana24
I think you guys will get to 300chp soon...but the reason I am posting is because I am wondering if your first name is "Later"? Or are you saying "Later", and then signing your name?
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Originally Posted by chernmax
It's slang for "see you late" "take to you later" "have to go" etc...
It's slang for "See you later" "Talk to you later" or a way of saying "I have to go" etc... There may be others, however those are the top 3...
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Originally Posted by chernmax
...The comment is based on SR20DEN dyno run where he took off his A/C belt and achieved a higher pull as a result. ...
Originally Posted by chernmax
Damn, messed that one all up It's slang for "See you later" "Talk to you later" or a way of saying "I have to go" etc... There may be others, however those are the top 3...
It's slang for "See you later" "Talk to you later" or a way of saying "I have to go" etc... There may be others, however those are the top 3...
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Actually, any mod can void the warranty...whether it be a K&N panel filter or a set of cams
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Originally Posted by RHMax
We used to run 1/4 mile with all accessory belts removed and got about .25+ sec(low 15's versus high 14's on well modded SR20, B16, 4A-GE), don't need A/C or power steering on the track. Then we put them back on because we were hot and lazy, so the cars were slower again. Didn't spend money on pulleys.
For me, I wouldn't do it, whatever my car is capable on the street of performing is what I'll except for my track times. I'll never be the fastest, however never the slowest either, and thats just fine by me...
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Originally Posted by chernmax
...For me, I wouldn't do it, whatever my car is capable on the street of performing is what I'll except for my track times. I'll never be the fastest, however never the slowest either, and thats just fine by me...
Pulleys weren't available as an off-the-shelf option then, only custom made.
Originally Posted by cardana24
I think you guys will get to 300chp soon...but the reason I am posting is because I am wondering if your first name is "Later"? Or are you saying "Later", and then signing your name?
Originally Posted by Longhorn1
Ramberg, Chernmax, y'all have the highest respect from the 6th generation family. Just walk away from this thread, y'all are two big for this kind of internet bickering.
You both have two of the fastest 6th gen maximas around. Nuff said.
You both have two of the fastest 6th gen maximas around. Nuff said.
[QUOTE=JiuJitsuThug]Cool deal Chernamx and Ramberg - you guys are two of my favorite posters and modders. Much respect and I hope we can break that 300hp mark soon
Thanks alot and I know my best friend chernmax would say the same thing. Later Waren
Thanks alot and I know my best friend chernmax would say the same thing. Later Waren
darrinips & E55 - 5spd auto and tested AFTER the following mods (Greddy's & Intake). I have not retested since adding the Unorthodox pulley. Don't even want to bother with it since I also added 19's. It would be too depressing 
As stated, I'm done with the performance mods from here on out. I don't see much point in it anymore since I got the R6 that will smoke any MAX ever made LOL - so for me the max is now just a good looking cruiser.
Dyno was done on a DynoJet in April 04'.
Best of luck to you guys in attaining those numbers though
As stated, I'm done with the performance mods from here on out. I don't see much point in it anymore since I got the R6 that will smoke any MAX ever made LOL - so for me the max is now just a good looking cruiser.
Dyno was done on a DynoJet in April 04'.
Best of luck to you guys in attaining those numbers though
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Originally Posted by ramberg
Thanks for those comments. After I answer some of these replys, I will walk away. Later Warren
I also want to learn...
I am walking away from this tread and will start a new tread when I redo my dyno on a DynoJet next month. 
Later Warren
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Later WarrenA night picture taken this past Friday at my nycmaxima club meeting.
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Originally Posted by ramberg
I am walking away from this tread and will start a new tread when I redo my dyno on a DynoJet next month. Later Warren
A night picture taken this past Friday at my nycmaxima club meeting.
Later WarrenA night picture taken this past Friday at my nycmaxima club meeting.
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Originally Posted by ramberg
I am walking away from this tread and will start a new tread when I redo my dyno on a DynoJet next month. Later Warren
A night picture taken this past Friday at my nycmaxima club meeting.
Later WarrenA night picture taken this past Friday at my nycmaxima club meeting.
Nah can't be, I just noticed, that's not a car bra, it's a muzzle...