maxmale

just like i said. why dont one of you maxima guru's make us a sway bar for the front.

RHMax

It will create more push in front and promote oversteer. Not many FSB's are available for FWD cars for that reason.

Jeff92se

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I have one on my 3-gen. ST unit. It really doesn't increase the UNDERSTEER that much if any. But it greatly decreases the wallow and front end dive that our fwd cars have. It actually makes the back end work a bit harder as less corner dive keeps the car much more level. I run frnt/rear swaybars in addition to springs/shockes. I'm pretty neutral in handling.

RHMax

I know that none are available for 5th gen either, but maybe for 4th gen. 6th gens are mammoths compare to 3rd gens though! What ever happened to ST anyways? Can't find new products from them.

darrinps

I tend to agree and would think that if the RSB was upgraded (like the one from Cattman), then upgrading the front might be a fine thing (although I don't want to be the guinea pig).

After all, doesn't the addition of a strut bar also tighten the car up causing it to want to push?

Jeff92se

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Anything that just stiffens the CHASSIS won't change the overall dyanamics of the car. ie.. make an understeering car, an oversteering car. Just makes a better version of the same car.

RHMax

I'm on stock springs and shocks, but have Cattman's RSB and Stillen FSTB. I can tell you that my car responses better in the corners, quicker steering response with slight push in rear (oversteer might be possible, but havn't yet) Is the OEM FTSB solid? Anyone knows?

darrinps

I would agree if you are talking about the entire chassis, but upgrading a bar or a brace does not do this. It affects one end more than the other, and although the handling limit may improve with the additional rigidity, the characteristics (oversteer/understeer) are changed.

As a general rule, increasing the stiffness of your front anti-sway bar tends to reduce oversteer while increasing the stiffness of your rear anti-sway bar will tend to reduce understeer. The limit may improve but the neutrality will most likely shift one way or the other.

FWIW, I believe that it is safest, for the average driver, to have a little bit of understeer in their car. Most people pull off of the pedal when they start to slide. In a push, this is a good thing (weight will transfer to the front and increase corning ability toward the front).

Jeff92se

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Braces won't significantly change the over/under steer characteristics of our cars IMHO. I don't think there is enough chassis flex available to do this.

darrinps

I tend to agree on the 2004+. It sure "seems" stiff enough.

Has anyone tested their car out on a slalom to see if adding a STB after adding a RSB helped/hurt their time?

RHMax

I'll be a lab rat, bring it on

NismoMax80

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I've gotten mine to oversteer with the Cattman RSB. just before the install I had it understeer. "OEM FTSB" there is no oem fstb.

RHMax

I put on RSB before FTSB. I didn't take it on any courses, just in the hills near by so don't know about time. The rear was A LOT stiffer with just RSB in cornering and rolls, it works. Once I put the FSTB on, the car felt more even, balanced. The car feels nice and stiff during cornering.

RHMax

Oops, I meant OEM FSB. Is it solid? I haven't found myself looking backeward yet with my setup, but it could be possible since it's getting warmer and asphalt is getting slicker.

kamski

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I thought it came with one?

WTF!!!

"Rear: Multi-link independent suspension
Front (22.2 mm diameter) and rear (26.5 mm diameter) stabilizer bars"

direct from nissans website.

Thanks,

Kam

RHMax

I think that's backward, 26 in front and 22 in back (04)!? 05's are 24 in back. Rear stock ones are hollow, I want to know if front ones are too.