Putting gas in the max
05-09-2007, 05:07 PM
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Since this thread seems destined to never die, I thought I'd throw in the trivia fact that New Jersey and Oregon are the only two states where the customer is not allowed to operate the pumps at service stations.
05-09-2007, 06:15 PM
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Just got my Maxima at the end of March, this has never happened. It has happened on previous cars, but ONLY at specific gas stations/pumps. To be happening every time, that's very odd. Ridiculous to be more exact.
05-09-2007, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Since this thread seems destined to never die, I thought I'd throw in the trivia fact that New Jersey and Oregon are the only two states where the customer is not allowed to operate the pumps at service stations.
The fact that gas prices in NJ an OR are NOT out of line with most other states (certainly not the most expensive) -- despite having to pay the pump jockeys -- does raise some interesting questions about the pricing policies in the other 48 states.
The few full service stations around here charge about a buck a gallon premium for it.
05-10-2007, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jcalabria
The fact that gasoline prices in NJ an OR are NOT out of line with most other states (certainly not the most expensive) -- despite having to pay the pump jockeys -- does raise some interesting questions about the pricing policies in the other 48 states.
The few full service stations around here charge about a buck a gallon premium for it.
The few full service stations around here charge about a buck a gallon premium for it.
If all of the gasoline being pumped from a station is pumped by a jockey, then the dealer can add about 2 cents per gallon and clear enough extra to pay the jockey's salary. But if only 4% (or less) of the gasoline is pumped by the jockey, he will need to add up to $1 per gallon to pay that salary. I would say that this additional cost in a large NJ (or OR) station runs between 1.5 and 3 cents per gallon, depending on station volume and whether the jockey earns minimum wage or more.
The comparison of gasoline prices between NJ (or OR) and other states is not valid because each state sets their own state tax level for gasoline. Supply and distribution costs also vary enough to make good comparisons between states hard to do.
CA's prices are out of sight because of their environmental restrictions on gasoline formulation -- causing a few older CA refineries to stop making gasoline for CA -- further restricting gasoline supply in CA. Their gasoline formulation is so restrictive that it turns out that there is only one refinery in the world (outside of CA) that can make any real volume of this boutique product.
05-10-2007, 07:31 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by SilverMax_04
You have to compare the gasoline price in NJ and OR with and without having to pay for the salary of a pump jockey. Since this is not legal, no one living there knows exactly what they are paying (via a higher price per gallon) for this service. But having worked in the oil industry for 35 years, I'm in a position to provide an educated guess.
If all of the gasoline being pumped from a station is pumped by a jockey, then the dealer can add about 2 cents per gallon and clear enough extra to pay the jockey's salary. But if only 4% (or less) of the gasoline is pumped by the jockey, he will need to add up to $1 per gallon to pay that salary. I would say that this additional cost in a large NJ (or OR) station runs between 1.5 and 3 cents per gallon, depending on station volume and whether the jockey earns minimum wage or more.
The comparison of gasoline prices between NJ (or OR) and other states is not valid because each state sets their own state tax level for gasoline. Supply and distribution costs also vary enough to make good comparisons between states hard to do.
CA's prices are out of sight because of their environmental restrictions on gasoline formulation -- causing a few older CA refineries to stop making gasoline for CA -- further restricting gasoline supply in CA. Their gasoline formulation is so restrictive that it turns out that there is only one refinery in the world (outside of CA) that can make any real volume of this boutique product.
If all of the gasoline being pumped from a station is pumped by a jockey, then the dealer can add about 2 cents per gallon and clear enough extra to pay the jockey's salary. But if only 4% (or less) of the gasoline is pumped by the jockey, he will need to add up to $1 per gallon to pay that salary. I would say that this additional cost in a large NJ (or OR) station runs between 1.5 and 3 cents per gallon, depending on station volume and whether the jockey earns minimum wage or more.
The comparison of gasoline prices between NJ (or OR) and other states is not valid because each state sets their own state tax level for gasoline. Supply and distribution costs also vary enough to make good comparisons between states hard to do.
CA's prices are out of sight because of their environmental restrictions on gasoline formulation -- causing a few older CA refineries to stop making gasoline for CA -- further restricting gasoline supply in CA. Their gasoline formulation is so restrictive that it turns out that there is only one refinery in the world (outside of CA) that can make any real volume of this boutique product.
Part of my wife's displeasure with pumping her own gas when we moved here was that the pump price was about .15 higher in NC than it was in NJ at that time.
05-24-2007, 05:38 AM
#49
Mine clicks off and then I can always ease another gallon and a half into it....
pain in the ****.
as for jersey... yes, their taxes are lower which allows them to have lower prices & full service....
BTW... they were the only state under $3.00 for regular
pain in the ****.
as for jersey... yes, their taxes are lower which allows them to have lower prices & full service....
BTW... they were the only state under $3.00 for regular
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