rebuild 6mt tranny or purchase another?
#1
rebuild 6mt tranny or purchase another?
Ive got 108,000 miles on my maxima..and for awhile I can hear my tranny bearings going..got weird sounds coming from it in most all gears...still drives and shifts fine though..but anyway eventually it is gonna need to get fixed..along with a new clutch..and a new master cylinder being that I lose clutch pressure after driving through heavy city traffic...so Ive been thinking about my options... should I look at getting it rebuilt? or buying a used one? I think buying a new one would be expensive..although the tranny rebuild in my 5gen costed well over 2k $$ so im stumped on what to do..any ideas?
#3
but it sounds horrible . . im guessing throw out bearings and probably something with synchros..i dont know a WHOLE lot about trannies..but I know when it makes sounds its not supposed to make...makes sounds when:
1.idleing in neutral with clutch disengaged (clunking sound in trans, stops when clutch is engaged)
2. accelerating in a lower gear (not so much in 5 or 6)
3. coasting/decelerating in any gear (noise progressively louder in every lower gear) (except 6)
4. coasting in gear, clutch engaged (rattling, clunking sound in tranny)
5. disengaging clutch in gear while moving without double clutching (horrible whine)
never ABUSED the car..I mean I have a heavy foot and accelerate heavily..and used to use high rpms..and high rpm downshifts a lot.. but i rarely shift hard..never powershift and have only grinded the gears a few times since ive had it (2nd to 3rd high rpm shift) but i do not know how the car was treated from the last owner. :/
1.idleing in neutral with clutch disengaged (clunking sound in trans, stops when clutch is engaged)
2. accelerating in a lower gear (not so much in 5 or 6)
3. coasting/decelerating in any gear (noise progressively louder in every lower gear) (except 6)
4. coasting in gear, clutch engaged (rattling, clunking sound in tranny)
5. disengaging clutch in gear while moving without double clutching (horrible whine)
never ABUSED the car..I mean I have a heavy foot and accelerate heavily..and used to use high rpms..and high rpm downshifts a lot.. but i rarely shift hard..never powershift and have only grinded the gears a few times since ive had it (2nd to 3rd high rpm shift) but i do not know how the car was treated from the last owner. :/
#6
try the redline gear oil, cures most problems with MT, 2 friends of mine put the redline gear oil in Nissan MT and both had weird noises and funky shifting, but after the new fluid was added the MT feel like new, sounds are gone.
a 2002 6speed Max and a 2003 5speed V6 Alti, both had the throw out bearing whine, which is gone
a 2002 6speed Max and a 2003 5speed V6 Alti, both had the throw out bearing whine, which is gone
#8
i have been using mt-90 ever since i got the car at 60K miles...not sure how my engine mounts or tranny mounts are doing..never thought it could have anything to do with that. but my main question was when/if it does go..should i rebuild..or replace?
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nmexmax..thanks a MILLION for the site!! found tons of trannies on there..avg price looks like about $800-1200 is it fairly easy to remove and install a trans? i have resources and place to do it at..will prob have a buddy of mine help me out. i will most def buy a new clutch and prob do the master cylinder also..
but based on my search results Im guessing the altima 6spd manual is the same exact tranny as our maxima?
but based on my search results Im guessing the altima 6spd manual is the same exact tranny as our maxima?
#15
I wouldn't buy a used one if it has more than 10.000 miles, but that's just me.
OK, how much money would you save by buying a used tranny instead of rebuilding your old one? I'm just curious
OK, how much money would you save by buying a used tranny instead of rebuilding your old one? I'm just curious
#16
well im not sure for this one...when i got my 5MT rebuild..it costed me damn near $3000 including a new clutch..and i still even had an issue with it grinding in reverse..and the clutch sucked and burned easily compared to stock (when driving hard) so a trans with barely any miles on it...a new stage 1 clutch..master cylinder..and probably a short shifter kit would cost me at the MOST 1800-2000 dollars. and the trans would have maybe 10-20K on it. id get a friend to help me install it..so id throw $100 his way. and maybe i can get lucky and find an LSD trans
#17
well im not sure for this one...when i got my 5MT rebuild..it costed me damn near $3000 including a new clutch..and i still even had an issue with it grinding in reverse..and the clutch sucked and burned easily compared to stock (when driving hard) so a trans with barely any miles on it...a new stage 1 clutch..master cylinder..and probably a short shifter kit would cost me at the MOST 1800-2000 dollars. and the trans would have maybe 10-20K on it. id get a friend to help me install it..so id throw $100 his way. and maybe i can get lucky and find an LSD trans
What parts are making the grinding noise? Synchros?
EDIT: Never mind. I'll try to get a new clutch along with the cylinders... Some redline oil and i should be more clever in the end or i guess so
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Total cost for the Tranny rebuild/upgrade was $4600.
But I was able to put more new or quality parts on so that's a plus.
Tranny Part for my rebuild included:
- Race Modified Torque Converter
- Master Rebuild Kit
- Pressure Plate
- New Valve Body (March 2008 manufacture date)
- Bushing Kit
- Drum
- Band
- Front Pump
- Filter
- Cooler
- Thrust washer set
- 12 Quarts of AT fluid
Parts alone were $2,820, the rest was in labor.
But I was able to put more new or quality parts on so that's a plus.
Tranny Part for my rebuild included:
- Race Modified Torque Converter
- Master Rebuild Kit
- Pressure Plate
- New Valve Body (March 2008 manufacture date)
- Bushing Kit
- Drum
- Band
- Front Pump
- Filter
- Cooler
- Thrust washer set
- 12 Quarts of AT fluid
Parts alone were $2,820, the rest was in labor.
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Last, I wanted a beefed up Torque Converter and New Valve Body. If your rebuild does not need these two upgrades, minus $1,300 in parts and somewhat less for labor!!!
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Oh and I still have my original Valve Body with only 38K miles that I'll be selling so again, less cost...
Fits 2004 5AT tranny: RE5F22A (AW55-50SN)
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Oh and I still have my original Valve Body with only 38K miles that I'll be selling so again, less cost...
Fits 2004 5AT tranny: RE5F22A (AW55-50SN)
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#21
My opinion is one of two, Try Neo synthetic gear oil it should fix the problem right away, or open it up and see whats making the noise my guess is its the front or rear input shaft bearing they are like 30$ a piece but it costs alot to do a rebuild and wile ur in there I'd get a couple other new parts! But if you want to try out the Neo instead of the MT90 u'd probably fix your problem as well!
question, you said u'd changed to redline at 60000 and you currently at 108000 that means 48000 thats way too much for no trans oil change I hope you've changed it once or twice in between! Go for the neo synthetic gear oil and I'll bet it will be as good as new!
question, you said u'd changed to redline at 60000 and you currently at 108000 that means 48000 thats way too much for no trans oil change I hope you've changed it once or twice in between! Go for the neo synthetic gear oil and I'll bet it will be as good as new!
#22
Last, I wanted a beefed up Torque Converter and New Valve Body. If your rebuild does not need these two upgrades, minus $1,300 in parts and somewhat less for labor!!!
Oh and I still have my original Valve Body with only 38K miles that I'll be selling so again, less cost...
Fits 2004 5AT tranny: RE5F22A (AW55-50SN)
Oh and I still have my original Valve Body with only 38K miles that I'll be selling so again, less cost...
Fits 2004 5AT tranny: RE5F22A (AW55-50SN)
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#23
the service book says change manual fluid every 60K..under severe conditions 30k...got the car changed fluid to redline at 60k..changed fluid again at 100k...and its still doing bad. so if i got a trans with 20K on it..and it lasted to even 80k...than the car will have 160k in it and i prob wont even have it any more than..unless it develops problems. which i hope it doesnt..cuz i love my car so much.
#24
But Chern's is a bad example because an AT is far more complex than an MT, so
Get a used MT, simple as that. rebuilds aren't worth it IMO. simple 800$ tranny + swap shouldn't cost too much.
I still don't see a need to fix it if it aint broke though.
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Get a used MT, simple as that. rebuilds aren't worth it IMO. simple 800$ tranny + swap shouldn't cost too much.
I still don't see a need to fix it if it aint broke though.
#25
well im not replacing it yet..i will wait till it goes to replace it..im just looking at my options early so when it does go i dont take weeks to try and figure out what to do. but if you drove it..youd hate it. i constantly blast music so I dont have to hear these sounds coming from the tranny..it makes me sick. and i cant have the car quiet with friends in it..or i just gotta drive a certain way and not coast in gear and hold the clutch at a stop light so it doesnt sound like a POS. Whenever I travel with friends...i ALWAYS drive..i hate being a passenger and love driving too much..and who DOESNT like to ride in the maxima..haha so when my car isnt right..it takes a stab at me and I feel the pain more than it. Maxima's do have souls..and I believe that for many..yet weird reasons. haha anyway im getting OT!!!
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#27
sounds like your input or out put shaft bearing since it does it all the time...are you sure its not a wheel bearing? from my under standing it gets louder the faster you go...does the noise go away if you turn left or right? if so im thinking more of a wheel bearing issue. dont just start throwing parts at your car i have seen too many customers come into the shop i work at and tell us to install stuff they dont need and wont let us diagnose it to make sure it really needs what they are GUESSING it needs.
#29
well i just know that when i do certain things with the tranny and clutch that determines what sound itll make..and when. it makes no difference when turning and doesnt make any sound when coasting in neutral so it cant be wheel bearings. at least i dont think. but im almost positive its the tranny..i may bring it to a tranny shop but im afraid they will tell me some wrong info in the hopes of selling me a new tranny or rebuild. :/ any suggest. on how to find out exactly what it is?
#31
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#32
yea..little things here and there just starting to get tiny bit worse at a time..im sure its gonna go sooner or later...just hoping not sooner :/ if its closer to sept than itll be fine for me i will have enough money by than to swap it out for a new one..if it goes now..im screwed....oh well just gotta wait and see what happens
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