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RE5F22A TRANSMISSION FIX
#1561
Hello All,
New member and new Maxima owner here. On Friday I purchased a 2005 Maxima SE with the 5 speed Auto tranny. It has 105,000 miles and seems not to have any of the symptoms described in this thread. It came from a mom and pop dealer who bought it from auction, so I don't know the history other than what is on Carfax, which indicates no transmission work or maintenance. I checked the fluid and it does not smell burnt but is definitely reddish-brown.
I want to AVOID trashing this transmission and would like to get some input as to what would be the best course of action. I have seen discussions about doing 3 to 4 drain/fills with Matic K, and I have also seen others (not here) recommending to switch to a "compatible" full synthetic ATF from Mobil_1 or Amsoil. I have seen lots of recommendations saying ONLY use Matic K though. Most of those discussions were from several years ago.
So, would doing the fluid drain/fill right now be the best first course of action to ward off problems? Or would anybody recommend getting the valve body replacement done before problems start?
Any thoughts on Matic K vs Full Synthetic "compatible" to Matic K? (I'm going to go with the more expensive Matic K by default unless someone can convince me that a full synthetic would be more beneficial other than to my checkbook.)
Thanks and cheers,
Greg
New member and new Maxima owner here. On Friday I purchased a 2005 Maxima SE with the 5 speed Auto tranny. It has 105,000 miles and seems not to have any of the symptoms described in this thread. It came from a mom and pop dealer who bought it from auction, so I don't know the history other than what is on Carfax, which indicates no transmission work or maintenance. I checked the fluid and it does not smell burnt but is definitely reddish-brown.
I want to AVOID trashing this transmission and would like to get some input as to what would be the best course of action. I have seen discussions about doing 3 to 4 drain/fills with Matic K, and I have also seen others (not here) recommending to switch to a "compatible" full synthetic ATF from Mobil_1 or Amsoil. I have seen lots of recommendations saying ONLY use Matic K though. Most of those discussions were from several years ago.
So, would doing the fluid drain/fill right now be the best first course of action to ward off problems? Or would anybody recommend getting the valve body replacement done before problems start?
Any thoughts on Matic K vs Full Synthetic "compatible" to Matic K? (I'm going to go with the more expensive Matic K by default unless someone can convince me that a full synthetic would be more beneficial other than to my checkbook.)
Thanks and cheers,
Greg
#1563
#1564
#1565
Thanks again, Costee! This forum is a wealth of information.
If anyone is interested I found single quarts of Matic K on Amazon for $11.38 with free shipping (Amazon Prime). I also found a better deal if you buy 12 qts on eBay that is $118.83 including shipping. So that would bring it down to $9.90/qt if you buy 12.
Will be doing the transmission drain/fills this weekend.
Cheers,
Greg
If anyone is interested I found single quarts of Matic K on Amazon for $11.38 with free shipping (Amazon Prime). I also found a better deal if you buy 12 qts on eBay that is $118.83 including shipping. So that would bring it down to $9.90/qt if you buy 12.
Will be doing the transmission drain/fills this weekend.
Cheers,
Greg
#1566
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If you are experiencing,
Harsh shift - it's like engines RPM spikes during 2 to 3 shift and during this situation it feels like transmission lost the power momentarily.
Harsh down shift - It's like little bumpy down shift from 3 to 2 when gas paddle in not pressed down and car is slowing down.
Harsh idle shift - thud or bump when engaging from drive to reverse and reverse to drive.
Harsh disengagement/re-engagement - thud or bump when car comes to full stop with foot on brake. Also thud or bump when taking off from full stop to drive.
All above symptoms refers to faulty valve body or solenoids. However that's not always the case and may be you are experiencing totally different transmission problems. However getting this shift kit install by qualified transmission repair shop worth a shot. Especially when many maxima owners say it works.
I know some of you are extremely knowledgeable and know what you are doing. However this is my 2c for those who are new to this. Please make sure before you hand your car over to the shop that knows exactly what they are doing and knows all ins and out of shift kit installation consequences.
Don’t just get excited and rush over to the transmission repair shop who says yes when you ask them "do you install shift key kit in maxima or do you guys install shift key kit?" This valve body modification or rectification process is not just about loosening some nuts or bolts and then tight them back. That is the whole reason why this kit says "when install correctly" then it will cure above transmission problems. Please make sure you and your transmission shop mechanics understand the words "when install correctly" correctly.
Harsh shift - it's like engines RPM spikes during 2 to 3 shift and during this situation it feels like transmission lost the power momentarily.
Harsh down shift - It's like little bumpy down shift from 3 to 2 when gas paddle in not pressed down and car is slowing down.
Harsh idle shift - thud or bump when engaging from drive to reverse and reverse to drive.
Harsh disengagement/re-engagement - thud or bump when car comes to full stop with foot on brake. Also thud or bump when taking off from full stop to drive.
All above symptoms refers to faulty valve body or solenoids. However that's not always the case and may be you are experiencing totally different transmission problems. However getting this shift kit install by qualified transmission repair shop worth a shot. Especially when many maxima owners say it works.
I know some of you are extremely knowledgeable and know what you are doing. However this is my 2c for those who are new to this. Please make sure before you hand your car over to the shop that knows exactly what they are doing and knows all ins and out of shift kit installation consequences.
Don’t just get excited and rush over to the transmission repair shop who says yes when you ask them "do you install shift key kit in maxima or do you guys install shift key kit?" This valve body modification or rectification process is not just about loosening some nuts or bolts and then tight them back. That is the whole reason why this kit says "when install correctly" then it will cure above transmission problems. Please make sure you and your transmission shop mechanics understand the words "when install correctly" correctly.
#1567
I have Altima 2005 3.5 SL (I think its a same engine as Maxima) and having the same issue with slipping gear when I stop and start from lights. This is not happening for little while when I use the car for very first time on every days. Please let me know if this will fix. I dont want to spend about $500 and its not fixing the problem. your help is much appreciated.
#1568
I have a question here since my transmission is rebuilt and it also includes a remanufactured valve body. Will the remanufactured Nissan valve body have the same issues or is it one of the newer ones with the Nissan fix? (Do I need to also buy the Rostra solenoid?)
#1569
Pls am in nigeria using 2005 maxima. Apart from mobile 1 is there any other good engine transmission oil? And also what kind of gear transmission oil s good because mine gear have nt being selecting well bt am tld that nissan oil is so costly... Pls any help?
#1570
Hey. I am posting to say thank you to everyone for coming up with the solenoid fix. I purchased my Maxima new and I have 150k miles on it. I started having the transmission issue about a year ago and it started with delayed/hard shifts between D/R and R/D. Then a few months ago it started between 1/2 and 2/1. I decided I would give the fix a try since it cost less than $200 total including the Rostra solenoids and transmission fluid. I wasn't optimistic I would be able to pull it off and I fully planned to be purchasing a newer vehicle when I failed...well it was a success. It took me about 5 hours or so total. Thank you again.
#1571
No Shift after Transgo kit installed Temp sensor loose
Hi folks,
I've been searching with no luck since there are a few temp sensors and I get a lot of false hits. I installed the Transgo kit and everything seemed to go back together without a problem, except my big fingers getting in the way. Put it all back together and topped up the fluid. Put the car in reverse to get it out of the way and it seemed to shift fine. Backed it up slightly and stopped. Shifted back into Park. When I shifted into drive I had no gears. Same when back into reverse. It sounds like (RPM changes) but it doesn't go into gear. I took the valve body cover off and the a/t fluid temp sensor was not in.
This might sound like a silly question but, if the sensor was not in place would it cause this issue, or so i need to keep digging into the valve body to see if there is a different issue? It seems like when I put it in reverse I didn't have the sensor in tight enough and it pushed out and now can't get the pressure it needs to shift. I'd like this to be a simple solution.
Thanks in advance and sorry if this is in fact a dupe post.
Cheers,
Andrew
I've been searching with no luck since there are a few temp sensors and I get a lot of false hits. I installed the Transgo kit and everything seemed to go back together without a problem, except my big fingers getting in the way. Put it all back together and topped up the fluid. Put the car in reverse to get it out of the way and it seemed to shift fine. Backed it up slightly and stopped. Shifted back into Park. When I shifted into drive I had no gears. Same when back into reverse. It sounds like (RPM changes) but it doesn't go into gear. I took the valve body cover off and the a/t fluid temp sensor was not in.
This might sound like a silly question but, if the sensor was not in place would it cause this issue, or so i need to keep digging into the valve body to see if there is a different issue? It seems like when I put it in reverse I didn't have the sensor in tight enough and it pushed out and now can't get the pressure it needs to shift. I'd like this to be a simple solution.
Thanks in advance and sorry if this is in fact a dupe post.
Cheers,
Andrew
Last edited by AndrewNelson; 10-08-2017 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Missing info
#1572
Thanks to all. I was able to replace 3 solenoids and improved a lot but still having some delay (almost a second) between 2nd and 3rd. I am going to drive for a week to see if its getting improved. I cannot thank you enough for your directions and tips.
#1573
05 Altima SE-R
Hey all,
First, yes, I own a 2005 Altima SER and hope to have her for a long time (I love its look and power). I have confirmed that I have the same transmission as you awesome maxima owners - RE5F22A.
I bought the car used with only about 140k on it and when I took it for a test drive from the lot, I did not notice any problems (other than the usual SER oil pressure sensor - false 0 pressure warning). However, by the time i drove 40 miles home I noticed a pretty bad problem with the transmission. In short, ONLY WHEN AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, the transmission has bad 2-3 and 3-4 lag in engagement and awful bucking downshifts 4-3, 3-2, 2-1 can all be felt very prominently. Also. the car has harsh 4 second delays in P-D and R-D when warm. They are delayed, and VERY harsh.
Again I will iterate this only happens when warm and at operating temp. The first start of the day and long periods of rest between starts have near no problems. No harsh R-D engagement and no delays, also the downshifts are not nearly as noticeable. Tranny fluid seems in good shape, a couple shades darker than fresh, but still very red and smells new.
I am very keen on trying to replace the solenoids and am more than willing to do the work. (I have read most of these posts here also...)
Anyone think it will give my transmission some relief?
Thanks.
First, yes, I own a 2005 Altima SER and hope to have her for a long time (I love its look and power). I have confirmed that I have the same transmission as you awesome maxima owners - RE5F22A.
I bought the car used with only about 140k on it and when I took it for a test drive from the lot, I did not notice any problems (other than the usual SER oil pressure sensor - false 0 pressure warning). However, by the time i drove 40 miles home I noticed a pretty bad problem with the transmission. In short, ONLY WHEN AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, the transmission has bad 2-3 and 3-4 lag in engagement and awful bucking downshifts 4-3, 3-2, 2-1 can all be felt very prominently. Also. the car has harsh 4 second delays in P-D and R-D when warm. They are delayed, and VERY harsh.
Again I will iterate this only happens when warm and at operating temp. The first start of the day and long periods of rest between starts have near no problems. No harsh R-D engagement and no delays, also the downshifts are not nearly as noticeable. Tranny fluid seems in good shape, a couple shades darker than fresh, but still very red and smells new.
I am very keen on trying to replace the solenoids and am more than willing to do the work. (I have read most of these posts here also...)
Anyone think it will give my transmission some relief?
Thanks.
#1574
Is the SES light on? The symptoms point to a valve body issue alright. The issue may be solved by changing the three pressure solenoids. But sometimes too the other five shift solenoids might have become compromised. Changing the pressure solenoids is the cheapest route, but the more secure option (albeit more expensive) is the valve body change. Good luck whatever option you choose.
#1575
Is the SES light on? The symptoms point to a valve body issue alright. The issue may be solved by changing the three pressure solenoids. But sometimes too the other five shift solenoids might have become compromised. Changing the pressure solenoids is the cheapest route, but the more secure option (albeit more expensive) is the valve body change. Good luck whatever option you choose.
I will definitely report back with results.
#1576
Video attached, transmission problem
Hey guys! This is my first post, asking for help. I have an 06 Nissan maxima 5speed. I'm trying to diagnose the problem with the transmission. Hopefully you can hear the sound in the video, minus the rain and wipers. Shifts from 1st and 2nd fine, maybe 3rd, but can't really tell. Downshifts fine as well. Idles quiet. From reverse to park, doesn't make a thump sound, but shifts into the gear slowly. These are the codes that came up on the last scan U1000 p0726 p0882. Thinking there might be a problem with the ecm, but not sure. Any help appreciated! https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzo7iwqyijwm98u/20180105_123148.mp4?dl=0
#1577
If my reading of the FSM is anything to go by, I think the principal culprit is P0882. You may proceed by checking the A/T PV IGN relay. It is located near the TCM in the passenger compartment (under the glove box) and blue coloured. Check too 10A fuse [No. 19, located in the fuse block (J/B under steering wheel to the left) or No. 48, located in the IPDM E/R in the engine bay by the windshield washer reservoir].
#1578
If my reading of the FSM is anything to go by, I think the principal culprit is P0882. You may proceed by checking the A/T PV IGN relay. It is located near the TCM in the passenger compartment (under the glove box) and blue coloured. Check too 10A fuse [No. 19, located in the fuse block (J/B under steering wheel to the left) or No. 48, located in the IPDM E/R in the engine bay by the windshield washer reservoir].
#1579
Try and download the FSM for more information, especially on the wiring schematics. Meanwhile to determine the integrity of the relay it says to "apply 12V direct current between A/T PV IGN relay terminals 1and 2; and "Check continuity between relay terminals 3 and 5."
#1580
do you have any information on my car possibly being in "limp mode", or how do get it out of that?
#1581
#1582
yes when I go to higher speeds, it says it's going into 5th gear, but reving high. The codes I got in my recent odb scan yesterday says P0171 p0174 p0882 u1000 p0726. I put in a new battery cause of the p0882 code, but that didn't help.
#1584
Hey all,
First, yes, I own a 2005 Altima SER and hope to have her for a long time (I love its look and power). I have confirmed that I have the same transmission as you awesome maxima owners - RE5F22A.
I bought the car used with only about 140k on it and when I took it for a test drive from the lot, I did not notice any problems (other than the usual SER oil pressure sensor - false 0 pressure warning). However, by the time i drove 40 miles home I noticed a pretty bad problem with the transmission. In short, ONLY WHEN AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, the transmission has bad 2-3 and 3-4 lag in engagement and awful bucking downshifts 4-3, 3-2, 2-1 can all be felt very prominently. Also. the car has harsh 4 second delays in P-D and R-D when warm. They are delayed, and VERY harsh.
Again I will iterate this only happens when warm and at operating temp. The first start of the day and long periods of rest between starts have near no problems. No harsh R-D engagement and no delays, also the downshifts are not nearly as noticeable. Tranny fluid seems in good shape, a couple shades darker than fresh, but still very red and smells new.
I am very keen on trying to replace the solenoids and am more than willing to do the work. (I have read most of these posts here also...)
Anyone think it will give my transmission some relief?
Thanks.
First, yes, I own a 2005 Altima SER and hope to have her for a long time (I love its look and power). I have confirmed that I have the same transmission as you awesome maxima owners - RE5F22A.
I bought the car used with only about 140k on it and when I took it for a test drive from the lot, I did not notice any problems (other than the usual SER oil pressure sensor - false 0 pressure warning). However, by the time i drove 40 miles home I noticed a pretty bad problem with the transmission. In short, ONLY WHEN AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, the transmission has bad 2-3 and 3-4 lag in engagement and awful bucking downshifts 4-3, 3-2, 2-1 can all be felt very prominently. Also. the car has harsh 4 second delays in P-D and R-D when warm. They are delayed, and VERY harsh.
Again I will iterate this only happens when warm and at operating temp. The first start of the day and long periods of rest between starts have near no problems. No harsh R-D engagement and no delays, also the downshifts are not nearly as noticeable. Tranny fluid seems in good shape, a couple shades darker than fresh, but still very red and smells new.
I am very keen on trying to replace the solenoids and am more than willing to do the work. (I have read most of these posts here also...)
Anyone think it will give my transmission some relief?
Thanks.
The days after install seemed a bit off but the shifts did get better over time. It wasn't a crazy increase over a week or two, but noticeable enough. After about a month, though, 1-2 and 2-3 started thumping and are not smooth transitions. Also, when very cold there is a 2-3 bind up where it feels like it won't let go of 2 fast enough. This does not happen when the tranny is warm. And the downshift bumps were also 100% gone.
I then took it to a tranny shop and they were willing to pull the codes and reset the shift learning to see if it would tune it better to the way I drive. There were 2 codes P0726 and P0882 in the tcm but I am not sure if they were there before the fix or after as I didn't check tcm codes beforehand. I had them cleared and the shift learn cleared. This cleaned up the shifts a little bit, but not much at all. (I haven't had the codes checked again.)
1-2 and 2-3 bump when warm, but I haven't tried tuning the solenoids. Anyone think this will help?
I also haven't replaced the motor mounts, they don't look completely shot, but have a couple of cracks in 2 mounts.
I am glad I did the install. It helped the transmission quite a bit, but I don't think its anywhere close to shifting as good as it should. I would like to hear any thoughts on tuning the solenoids.
#1585
I have installed the rostra solenoids and replaced the transmission fluid about 2 months ago.
The days after install seemed a bit off but the shifts did get better over time. It wasn't a crazy increase over a week or two, but noticeable enough. After about a month, though, 1-2 and 2-3 started thumping and are not smooth transitions. Also, when very cold there is a 2-3 bind up where it feels like it won't let go of 2 fast enough. This does not happen when the tranny is warm. And the downshift bumps were also 100% gone.
I then took it to a tranny shop and they were willing to pull the codes and reset the shift learning to see if it would tune it better to the way I drive. There were 2 codes P0726 and P0882 in the tcm but I am not sure if they were there before the fix or after as I didn't check tcm codes beforehand. I had them cleared and the shift learn cleared. This cleaned up the shifts a little bit, but not much at all. (I haven't had the codes checked again.)
1-2 and 2-3 bump when warm, but I haven't tried tuning the solenoids. Anyone think this will help?
I also haven't replaced the motor mounts, they don't look completely shot, but have a couple of cracks in 2 mounts.
I am glad I did the install. It helped the transmission quite a bit, but I don't think its anywhere close to shifting as good as it should. I would like to hear any thoughts on tuning the solenoids.
The days after install seemed a bit off but the shifts did get better over time. It wasn't a crazy increase over a week or two, but noticeable enough. After about a month, though, 1-2 and 2-3 started thumping and are not smooth transitions. Also, when very cold there is a 2-3 bind up where it feels like it won't let go of 2 fast enough. This does not happen when the tranny is warm. And the downshift bumps were also 100% gone.
I then took it to a tranny shop and they were willing to pull the codes and reset the shift learning to see if it would tune it better to the way I drive. There were 2 codes P0726 and P0882 in the tcm but I am not sure if they were there before the fix or after as I didn't check tcm codes beforehand. I had them cleared and the shift learn cleared. This cleaned up the shifts a little bit, but not much at all. (I haven't had the codes checked again.)
1-2 and 2-3 bump when warm, but I haven't tried tuning the solenoids. Anyone think this will help?
I also haven't replaced the motor mounts, they don't look completely shot, but have a couple of cracks in 2 mounts.
I am glad I did the install. It helped the transmission quite a bit, but I don't think its anywhere close to shifting as good as it should. I would like to hear any thoughts on tuning the solenoids.
#1586
Hey guys! This is my first post, asking for help. I have an 06 Nissan maxima 5speed. I'm trying to diagnose the problem with the transmission. Hopefully you can hear the sound in the video, minus the rain and wipers. Shifts from 1st and 2nd fine, maybe 3rd, but can't really tell. Downshifts fine as well. Idles quiet. From reverse to park, doesn't make a thump sound, but shifts into the gear slowly. These are the codes that came up on the last scan U1000 p0726 p0882. Thinking there might be a problem with the ecm, but not sure. Any help appreciated! https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzo7iwqyij...23148.mp4?dl=0
https://www.autocodes.com/p0726_nissan.html
#1587
Newbie - Just Registered
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: in my body, domiciled on the soil at Washington
Posts: 2
Here is a 2004 Nissan Maxima SE going for $500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...10805079716212 It states in the decription that it has 160,000 miles on it; And, they belive "The camshaft and transmission are nearly shot on this barely runs but it moves" . What do you think the chance is that the info just above, and this Transgo shift kit - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRG-RE4F04B-HD2/ - with other pertinent information from this thread would bring this baby back to life?
#1588
Your oil leak
I have a 2005 Nissan maxima I live way out in the country and have a very rough long driveway I bought them out from time to time which there are guards in place for this I recently bought them doubt will have Smoke bowling from underneath the car shortly after there is a guard that is supposed to be protecting the Kranks sensor it is missing the boat right behind the Kranks sensor bolt is missing that seems to be where of the oil is coming from from the missing guard bolt how can anyone help me please I’ll put a bolt in the hole where the rubber washer it took it a little longer to Lake but still same
#1589
Here is a 2004 Nissan Maxima SE going for $500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...10805079716212 It states in the decription that it has 160,000 miles on it; And, they belive "The camshaft and transmission are nearly shot on this barely runs but it moves" . What do you think the chance is that the info just above, and this Transgo shift kit - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRG-RE4F04B-HD2/ - with other pertinent information from this thread would bring this baby back to life?
#1590
Relearn process
Hi everyone. First off thanks for all the input on this thread. It has helped me considerably. Can anyone tell me the relearn procedure for the re5f22a? My car is an 04. I tried it with my snapon scanner but it just won't do it for some reason. Is there a manual way ? Thanks
#1591
Hi everyone. First off thanks for all the input on this thread. It has helped me considerably. Can anyone tell me the relearn procedure for the re5f22a? My car is an 04. I tried it with my snapon scanner but it just won't do it for some reason. Is there a manual way ? Thanks
#1592
Some high end scanners can do it. However I did search on here and it just brings up a link on sonnax's website that's expired...
#1593
Hi everyone. First off thanks for all the input on this thread. It has helped me considerably. Can anyone tell me the relearn procedure for the re5f22a? My car is an 04. I tried it with my snapon scanner but it just won't do it for some reason. Is there a manual way ? Thanks
#1594
That may be so. I've rebuilt my valve body and solenoids and it still isn't 100% right. Bangs into reverse and has 3-4 flare. So I want to reset my transmission adaptives anyway.
#1595
#1597
Problem after replacing Rostra set of 3
Hello everyone,
Thank you all for your helpful insights and info.
Feel like I’m beating a dead horse with this 40 page fun read.
So in a nutshell, 140k. I replaced the 3 solenoids.
Performed the relearn. Car was shifting and driving fine for a few miles. Finally took on the highway and getting off the highway I came to a stop. Gave it gas and car didn’t move anymore. No ses. Put in neutral car rev’d fine, put back in D and nothing. Car would not move. I shut off the car and turned it back on and now moved a few blocks in D. Then lost power again midblock. Car turns on but feels like it’s in failsafe mode.
Did I perform the relearn incorrectly ?
Do I need to play with the adjustment screws on the solenoids?
Again. Thank you so much for all your help!
greatly appreciated!
Thank you all for your helpful insights and info.
Feel like I’m beating a dead horse with this 40 page fun read.
So in a nutshell, 140k. I replaced the 3 solenoids.
Performed the relearn. Car was shifting and driving fine for a few miles. Finally took on the highway and getting off the highway I came to a stop. Gave it gas and car didn’t move anymore. No ses. Put in neutral car rev’d fine, put back in D and nothing. Car would not move. I shut off the car and turned it back on and now moved a few blocks in D. Then lost power again midblock. Car turns on but feels like it’s in failsafe mode.
Did I perform the relearn incorrectly ?
Do I need to play with the adjustment screws on the solenoids?
Again. Thank you so much for all your help!
greatly appreciated!
#1598
Very late to the game but I just starred having tranny trouble with my 05 at 109K miles. I am doing the solenoid replacement as I type. This thread is so old all the links are dead and I cannot find the torque sequence on the VB cover and I cannot find the CPU relearn process anywhere either. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
#1599
#1600
I don't recommend doing a solenoid swap. Buy the whole throttle body. I have two 2005's. I did one at 89k, and the other at 100k. Its more expensive but mind at ease Never had an issue again. Knock on wood. Easy swap. Only thing is I don't know how much they go for now a days. I bought mine through Courtney nissan online. $844 back then.