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Old 11-01-2010 | 05:34 PM
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Kevin had Juice... ZEN wet kit!
Yeah, I know.
I'm trying to get into the 12s without headers or nitrous.
Old 11-01-2010 | 05:54 PM
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I don't have enough money for headers right now.

I thought kevin had headers. My bad. lol
not from what i remember.. man i know its probebly possible, but im honestly and respectfully gonna say i dont think it will happen... extremely close but unless weight reduction is done i see you staying at 13.1... dont get me wrong im not hating as i'd love for you to do that so i can brag to non maxima heads but man o man, goodluck, the driver mod is with you
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Yeah, I know.
I'm trying to get into the 12s without headers or nitrous.
Gut the car
Old 11-01-2010 | 06:03 PM
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Yeah, I know.
I'm trying to get into the 12s without headers or nitrous.
I'm shocked you're in the low 13's with just an intake and a 3" exhaust which should have made your numbers drop because you lose low end TQ!
Old 11-01-2010 | 09:40 PM
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I'm shocked you're in the low 13's with just an intake and a 3" exhaust which should have made your numbers drop because you lose low end TQ!
are there dynos to show the loss of low end torque? I'm just curious because I see a lot about the 3"
Old 11-01-2010 | 11:16 PM
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not from what i remember.. man i know its probebly possible, but im honestly and respectfully gonna say i dont think it will happen... extremely close but unless weight reduction is done i see you staying at 13.1... dont get me wrong im not hating as i'd love for you to do that so i can brag to non maxima heads but man o man, goodluck, the driver mod is with you
I'm gonna take a little more weight out and hopefully have some good track prep. Also gonna take off the power steering belt. If I can get the car to pull a 1.7 60' it's in the bag. Hopefully I can make it happen.
Originally Posted by chernmax
Gut the car
The car has quite a bit of weight reduction already.
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I'm shocked you're in the low 13's with just an intake and a 3" exhaust which should have made your numbers drop because you lose low end TQ!
Obviously the 3" is making power then. lol
Also, why do I need low end torque?
Old 11-02-2010 | 12:12 AM
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Obviously the 3" is making power then. lol
Also, why do I need low end torque?
what whp u have?
Old 11-02-2010 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
I'm gonna take a little more weight out and hopefully have some good track prep. Also gonna take off the power steering belt. If I can get the car to pull a 1.7 60' it's in the bag. Hopefully I can make it happen.

The car has quite a bit of weight reduction already.

Obviously the 3" is making power then. lol
Also, why do I need low end torque?
Agreed... other than getting off the line, when will low end TQ really come into play???
Old 11-02-2010 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by m_turner_02
are there dynos to show the loss of low end torque? I'm just curious because I see a lot about the 3"

Tons of info on the internet on the loss of low end TQ when the size of the exhaust is plused up unless it's compensated with Tuning (piggy back computer) or a TechnoSquare reflash.
Old 11-02-2010 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
I'm gonna take a little more weight out and hopefully have some good track prep. Also gonna take off the power steering belt. If I can get the car to pull a 1.7 60' it's in the bag. Hopefully I can make it happen.

The car has quite a bit of weight reduction already.

Obviously the 3" is making power then. lol
Also, why do I need low end torque?


Low end TQ is your primary power band off the line for 1/4 mile runs...
Old 11-02-2010 | 06:45 AM
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what whp u have?
I'm guessing somewhere in the high 220's whp maybe low 230's (NOT Crank)
Old 11-02-2010 | 01:07 PM
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I'm guessing somewhere in the high 220's whp maybe low 230's (NOT Crank)
my maxima only have kyb suspension, 08 maxima se oem wheel 18" w/ BFGoodrich KDW, K&N Filter about 270 HP @ Crank, but i was race with BMW 135i with 2 people about over 125 mph then little beat it on highway, i not know why about my car is too fast than BMW 135i? but i never use my maxima on track or gtech pro so im guess my car can hit 13.8 @ 102 mph on stock weight?
Old 11-02-2010 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
my maxima only have kyb suspension, 08 maxima se oem wheel 18" w/ BFGoodrich KDW, K&N Filter about 270 HP @ Crank, but i was race with BMW 135i with 2 people about over 125 mph then little beat it on highway, i not know why about my car is too fast than BMW 135i? but i never use my maxima on track or gtech pro so im guess my car can hit 13.8 @ 102 mph on stock weight?
I don't think adding a K&N filter is going to add 15hp over the stock 255 crank hp rating? Only a dyno knows for sure!

Sorry I meant 15hp gain...

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Old 11-02-2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chernmax
I don't think adding a K&N filter is going to add 25hp over the stock 255 crank hp rating? Only a dyno knows for sure!
stock 6gen maxima is 265hp + 5 K&N Filter = 270 hp so i dont know about motor oil have some gain hp? And 255 hp for 5.5 gen maxima
Old 11-02-2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
stock 6gen maxima is 265hp + 5 K&N Filter = 270 hp so i dont know about motor oil have some gain hp? And 255 hp for 5.5 gen maxima
Unfortunely the automotive industry adapted a new SAE standard in 2005 which recalculated the way a cars hp standards are measured so a stock 6th gen Maxima was remeasured at 255 crank HP!

SAE Certified Power

In 2005, the SAE introduced "SAE Certified Power" with SAE J2723. This test is voluntary and is in itself not a separate engine test code but a certification of either J1349 or J1995 after which the manufacturer is allowed to advertise "Certified to SAE J1349" or "Certified to SAE J1995" depending on which test standard have been followed. To attain certification the test must follow the SAE standard in question, take place in a ISO9000/9002 certified facility and be witnessed by an SAE approved third party.

A few manufacturers such as Honda and Toyota switched to the new ratings immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac'ssuperchargedNorthstar V8 jumped from 440 to 469 hp (330 to 350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota'sCamry 3.0 L V6 fell from 210 to 190 hp (160 to 140 kW). The ES330 and Camry SE V6 were previously rated at 225 hp but the ES330 dropped to 218 hp (163 kW) while the Camry declined to 210 hp (160 kW). The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 to 505 hp (370 to 377 kW).

While Toyota and Honda are retesting their entire vehicle lineups, other automakers generally are retesting only those with updated powertrains. For example, the 2006 Ford Five Hundred is rated at 203 horsepower, the same as that of 2005 model. However, the 2006 rating does not reflect the new SAE testing procedure as Ford is not going to spend the extra expense of retesting its existing engines. Over time, most automakers are expected to comply with the new guidelines.


SAE tightened its horsepower rules after some engineers noticed parts of the old test could be subjected to different interpretations. Under the old testing procedures, there were small factors that required a judgment call: how much oil was in the crankcase, how the engine controls were calibrated and whether a vehicle was tested with premium fuel. In some cases, such can add up to a change in horsepower ratings. A road test editor at Edmunds.com, John Di Pietro, said decreases in horsepower ratings for some '06 models are not that dramatic. For vehicles like a midsize family sedan, it is likely that the reputation of the manufacturer will be more important.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

The front-wheel-drive Maxima sedan comes in two trims. The luxury SL offers heated leather seats, power front seats, a 6-CD player, wood and leather accents, xenon headlights, and 17-inch wheels. The sportier SE comes with sport seats, a CD player, leather trim, and a good-sized rear spoiler. Both trims are fueled by a 255-hp, 3.5-liter DOHC V6 and CVT transmission.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Overvie...08-Maxima.html
Old 11-02-2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
what whp u have?
I don't know. Don't really care either. MPH shows the real power.
Originally Posted by chernmax
Low end TQ is your primary power band off the line for 1/4 mile runs...
Not really, I'm launching at 6500rpms.
My car doesn't use any low end torque the entire run.
Old 11-02-2010 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
stock 6gen maxima is 265hp + 5 K&N Filter = 270 hp so i dont know about motor oil have some gain hp? And 255 hp for 5.5 gen maxima
you dont go by that , most VQ35 Dynos are around 225 to the CRANK wheels..

HP is just a rating not corrected.
Old 11-02-2010 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
my maxima only have kyb suspension, 08 maxima se oem wheel 18" w/ BFGoodrich KDW, K&N Filter about 270 HP @ Crank, but i was race with BMW 135i with 2 people about over 125 mph then little beat it on highway, i not know why about my car is too fast than BMW 135i? but i never use my maxima on track or gtech pro so im guess my car can hit 13.8 @ 102 mph on stock weight?
Are you serious, i drove my boys 335i 6spd that thing is a beast when those twins start boosting, my 6en with all the boltons i had can't touch it.the 135i is lighter than the 335i.
Old 11-02-2010 | 09:16 PM
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Are you serious, i drove my boys 335i 6spd that thing is a beast when those twins start boosting, my 6en with all the boltons i had can't touch it.the 135i is lighter than the 335i.
IDK that why my maxima SL w/ 5AT (RE5F22A) is natural so my mod is..
KYB Suspension
K&N Filter (Not COLD AIR INTAKE)
Ebay Grill same as S4.1 Grille
2008 Maxima SE 18" Rim w/ BFGoodrich KDW
High Performance Royal Purple Motor Oil for Engine and Transmission
Engine, Transmission, ECU, Full Exhaust, and Normal weight (3540lbs w/o driver) is STOCK!


Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1
you dont go by that , most VQ35 Dynos are around 225 to the CRANK wheels..

HP is just a rating not corrected.
i've never use dyno on before!

Originally Posted by chernmax
Unfortunely the automotive industry adapted a new SAE standard in 2005 which recalculated the way a cars hp standards are measured so a stock 6th gen Maxima was remeasured at 255 crank HP!

SAE Certified Power

In 2005, the SAE introduced "SAE Certified Power" with SAE J2723. This test is voluntary and is in itself not a separate engine test code but a certification of either J1349 or J1995 after which the manufacturer is allowed to advertise "Certified to SAE J1349" or "Certified to SAE J1995" depending on which test standard have been followed. To attain certification the test must follow the SAE standard in question, take place in a ISO9000/9002 certified facility and be witnessed by an SAE approved third party.

A few manufacturers such as Honda and Toyota switched to the new ratings immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac'ssuperchargedNorthstar V8 jumped from 440 to 469 hp (330 to 350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota'sCamry 3.0 L V6 fell from 210 to 190 hp (160 to 140 kW). The ES330 and Camry SE V6 were previously rated at 225 hp but the ES330 dropped to 218 hp (163 kW) while the Camry declined to 210 hp (160 kW). The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 to 505 hp (370 to 377 kW).

While Toyota and Honda are retesting their entire vehicle lineups, other automakers generally are retesting only those with updated powertrains. For example, the 2006 Ford Five Hundred is rated at 203 horsepower, the same as that of 2005 model. However, the 2006 rating does not reflect the new SAE testing procedure as Ford is not going to spend the extra expense of retesting its existing engines. Over time, most automakers are expected to comply with the new guidelines.


SAE tightened its horsepower rules after some engineers noticed parts of the old test could be subjected to different interpretations. Under the old testing procedures, there were small factors that required a judgment call: how much oil was in the crankcase, how the engine controls were calibrated and whether a vehicle was tested with premium fuel. In some cases, such can add up to a change in horsepower ratings. A road test editor at Edmunds.com, John Di Pietro, said decreases in horsepower ratings for some '06 models are not that dramatic. For vehicles like a midsize family sedan, it is likely that the reputation of the manufacturer will be more important.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

The front-wheel-drive Maxima sedan comes in two trims. The luxury SL offers heated leather seats, power front seats, a 6-CD player, wood and leather accents, xenon headlights, and 17-inch wheels. The sportier SE comes with sport seats, a CD player, leather trim, and a good-sized rear spoiler. Both trims are fueled by a 255-hp, 3.5-liter DOHC V6 and CVT transmission.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Overvie...08-Maxima.html
This is 6.5 Gen Maxima? Our 6 Gen Maxima!
Old 11-02-2010 | 09:22 PM
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There is no way that u kept up with or beat a 135i with your stock AT max. You probably raced a 128
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There is no way that u kept up with or beat a 135i with your stock AT max. You probably raced a 128
That's what I was thinking.
Old 11-02-2010 | 11:14 PM
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I don't know. Don't really care either. MPH shows the real power.


Not really, I'm launching at 6500rpms.
My car doesn't use any low end torque the entire run.
So you're red lining at the line before launch??? I suspect a glove box juice pack! Nothing about a 6th gen auto or manual puts it in the low 13's. The car was never built for those numbers and your car must be a freak of nature to achieve those numbers all motor with a CAI and 3" exhaust. Sorry NOT buying it!
Old 11-02-2010 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentinal
There is no way that u kept up with or beat a 135i with your stock AT max. You probably raced a 128
Not 128i! just 135i with TWO people vs maxima w/ ONE driver!

my maxima SL w/ 5AT (RE5F22A) with my mod is..
KYB Suspension
K&N Filter (Not COLD AIR INTAKE)
Ebay Grill same as S4.1 Grille
2008 Maxima SE 18" Rim w/ BFGoodrich KDW
High Performance Royal Purple Motor Oil for Engine and Transmission
Engine, Transmission, ECU, Full Exhaust, and Normal weight (3540lbs w/o driver) is STOCK!

Originally Posted by chernmax
So you're red lining at the line before launch??? I suspect a glove box juice pack! Nothing about a 6th gen auto or manual puts it in the low 13's. The car was never built for those numbers and your car must be a freak of nature to achieve those numbers all motor with a CAI and 3" exhaust. Sorry NOT buying it!
He use mt slick tire, remove weight on seat passenger, rear seat, gutted trunk, maybe track have grip, low weather? check website on below

http://forums.maxima.org/1-4-1-8-mil...-1-104mph.html

also Kevin007 did 12.8 @ 110 mph w/ juice ZEX, so i hope we'll break 12 sec on my 6gen maxima ALL-MOTOR SOON!
Old 11-03-2010 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chernmax
your car must be a freak of nature
LOL..Maybe he ran 1/8 drag and took his friends 1/4 mile et receipt, you got to show me the video of a 6gen with no juice are force induction running 13.1, at Englishtown track on Nissan day i have seen 14.2 1/4 mile with Z and G with way more boltons than just a 3 exhaust and cai. 13.1 sorry to wake you up from that sweet dream but those are turbo and nitrous numbers.

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Old 11-03-2010 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990

He use mt slick tire, remove weight on seat passenger, rear seat, gutted trunk, maybe track have grip, low weather? check website on below

http://forums.maxima.org/1-4-1-8-mil...-1-104mph.html
Well then he should add to his signature:

04 6 speed || Intake and 3" exhaust____________
13.1@104mph 1.8 60' ALL MOTOR: stock manifolds/cats/untuned/lawn mower battery/donut rear tires (Illegal to use at MIR or Capital Raceway!)/gutted interior!
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:04 AM
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LOL..Maybe he ran 1/8 drag and took his friends 1/4 mile et receipt, you got to show me the video of a 6gen with no juice are force induction running 13.1, at Englishtown track on Nissan day i have seen 14.2 1/4 mile with Z and G with way more boltons than just a 3 exhaust and cai. 13.1 sorry to wake you up from that sweet dream but those are turbo and nitrous numbers.
Did you read the thread? I have a video of it. Just because you can't run the time doesn't mean it's impossible.
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Well then he should add to his signature:

04 6 speed || Intake and 3" exhaust____________
13.1@104mph 1.8 60' ALL MOTOR: stock manifolds/cats/untuned/lawn mower battery/donut rear tires (Illegal to use at MIR or Capital Raceway!)/gutted interior!
LOL, you guys crack me up.
Should I list everything I have done in my signature?
It's not like I'm trying to hide what I have done to the car.
I mean I posted a damn thread about it.
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990
Not 128i! just 135i with TWO people vs maxima w/ ONE driver!

my maxima SL w/ 5AT (RE5F22A) with my mod is..
KYB Suspension
K&N Filter (Not COLD AIR INTAKE)
Ebay Grill same as S4.1 Grille
2008 Maxima SE 18" Rim w/ BFGoodrich KDW
High Performance Royal Purple Motor Oil for Engine and Transmission
Engine, Transmission, ECU, Full Exhaust, and Normal weight (3540lbs w/o driver) is STOCK!
I find that VERY HARD TO BELIVE , before I swap my 6spd tranny I had trouble keeping up with a 335i.

Ive raced a local guy that has some mods on his 135i with my 6spd and with my mods and he was a car ahead of me, I couldnt pass him.

sorry either the guy was just toying with you or it wasnt a 135i

basically all your saying is you have a k&n filter and you ran down a 135i that does 13.3 in the 1/4 in stock form ?

so your as fast as Krazy without his mods ? sorry man
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:12 AM
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Did you read the thread? I have a video of it. Just because you can't run the time doesn't mean it's impossible.


LOL, you guys crack me up.
Should I list everything I have done in my signature?
It's not like I'm trying to hide what I have done to the car.
I mean I posted a damn thread about it.
That's cool just funny running on donuts an a lawn mower battery, never heard that one before... I have seen a house aluminum roof rain drain used as an upscoop to draw air toward the air filter though!
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:18 AM
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That's cool just funny running on donuts an a lawn mower battery, never heard that one before... I have seen a house aluminum roof rain drain used as an upscoop to draw air toward the air filter though!
Every little bit counts. Weight is the enemy.
The battery only cost $25.
It's the same one that Aaron is running in his all motor 3rd gen.
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:22 AM
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I don't see how 13.1 is impossible for a 6th gen when JP (5.5 gen) ran 12.58 without FI

track conditions and tires help a lot!
Old 11-03-2010 | 10:24 AM
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Every little bit counts. Weight is the enemy.
The battery only cost $25.
It's the same one that Aaron is running in his all motor 3rd gen.
Yeah I've seen Aaron run, he only had a seat inside the car!

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Originally Posted by krazy6
Did you read the thread? I have a video of it. Just because you can't run the time doesn't mean it's impossible.

Are you related to MIKERNM1990 cause you guys could write a book "The Magic Flying Maxima" by mikernm1990 and krazy6. I watch the video and i don't see 13.1 just blur..nice touch
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Originally Posted by VQPRO
Are you related to MIKERNM1990 cause you guys could write a book "The Magic Flying Maxima" by mikernm1990 and krazy6. I watch the video and i don't see 13.1 just blur..nice touch
i've never use on track on before! so we'll get one very soon.

Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1
I find that VERY HARD TO BELIVE , before I swap my 6spd tranny I had trouble keeping up with a 335i.

Ive raced a local guy that has some mods on his 135i with my 6spd and with my mods and he was a car ahead of me, I couldnt pass him.

sorry either the guy was just toying with you or it wasnt a 135i

basically all your saying is you have a k&n filter and you ran down a 135i that does 13.3 in the 1/4 in stock form ?

so your as fast as Krazy without his mods ? sorry man
did you read my threads i was race with 2 peoples in bmw 135i thats all

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04 6 speed || Intake and 3" exhaust____________
13.1@104mph 1.8 60' ALL MOTOR: stock manifolds/cats/untuned/lawn mower battery/donut rear tires (Illegal to use at MIR or Capital Raceway!)/gutted interior!
oh sure.
Old 11-03-2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by VQPRO
Are you related to MIKERNM1990 cause you guys could write a book "The Magic Flying Maxima" by mikernm1990 and krazy6. I watch the video and i don't see 13.1 just blur..nice touch
Sorry my camera sucks.

If you don't believe me that's fine.
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Originally Posted by MIKERNM1990


did you read my threads i was race with 2 peoples in bmw 135i thats all


listen , if I had a passenger in ANY of my car, I would NOT be playing around with someones life in my car, therefore a person that owns a BMW is a bit more mature and with a passenger , was probally toying with you.

you may have won that "sprint" but come around the next time you run into a 135i you might not fair so easy.
Old 11-03-2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
I don't have enough money for headers right now.

I thought kevin had headers. My bad. lol
he had gutted cats.......get some headers off ebay and i thought 02-06 altima headers was the same? cant u just get some of those?
Old 11-03-2010 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by datdude20
he had gutted cats.......get some headers off ebay and i thought 02-06 altima headers was the same? cant u just get some of those?
agreed...
Old 11-03-2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1
listen , if I had a passenger in ANY of my car, I would NOT be playing around with someones life in my car, therefore a person that owns a BMW is a bit more mature and with a passenger , was probally toying with you.

you may have won that "sprint" but come around the next time you run into a 135i you might not fair so easy.
OK I WANT YOU ABOUT MY HONEST! my friend from my work and i was ride to anywhere and see one man use 6gen w/ 6 speed manual so idk about mod or not? i thought both are equal or beat us of race but get too accelerate and maxima 6 speed is behind me like 2 car length to 40 mph! WTF! my guess about any owner 6 speed 6 gen maybe not use oil motor, our oil motor is always change in 3000 miles! maybe im wrong?
Old 11-03-2010 | 05:47 PM
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Old 11-03-2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentinal
how about ? u think im alot of mistake on write on this threads?



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