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07-05-2011, 10:02 AM
#123
So I don't register on the modded chart, as maintained by the kiddies.
07-05-2011, 10:04 AM
#125
I was actually referring to 5th gen as in 00-01, as the 5.5 gen was given its own space on the chart. I'm surprised that those times are so close though. I would expect more of a gap between the 5.5 gen and the 4th gen, but in the commercial world "advertisted" and "actual" are often very far off from each other.
07-05-2011, 10:29 AM
#132
ohmyhahahahahahahahahaha .... hahahahaha i had to sit up for this one... with a ****ing coffee in your hand hahahahah!!!
ok.. look... this should not be up for debate.. and why are you still talking numbers?? i have beaten many 5.5 gens.. they are no where near close to as fast as the 6th.. this is so stupid.. seriously. PM me ill will meet you anywhere, race you, video it, and post it up... ill find the closed track so its all nice and legal.. ill even buy you lunch if i lose, how about that?
ok.. look... this should not be up for debate.. and why are you still talking numbers?? i have beaten many 5.5 gens.. they are no where near close to as fast as the 6th.. this is so stupid.. seriously. PM me ill will meet you anywhere, race you, video it, and post it up... ill find the closed track so its all nice and legal.. ill even buy you lunch if i lose, how about that?
is that straight forward enough...
i really find it sad that on a maxima's enthusiast web site, we can't even agree and something as big as the performance of its generations...
thats really sad guys..
maybe the 5.5 genners are just a little envious of our luxury, and have beaten too many civics its starting to mess with their heads, and being the underdog, they are letting their imaginations run wild....
i really find it sad that on a maxima's enthusiast web site, we can't even agree and something as big as the performance of its generations...
thats really sad guys..
maybe the 5.5 genners are just a little envious of our luxury, and have beaten too many civics its starting to mess with their heads, and being the underdog, they are letting their imaginations run wild....
i omitted that one because its complete crap..
when all the years below it show a different number with the same generation, and nothing has changed in the wight, engine, look, style, that number was obviously bogus.. ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE BOGUS. I don't believe any of them, not the 6th gen, not the 5th gen, 4th gen ect.. i used it to prove a point, that point being there is a trend. the younger the generation the faster the number...
PAH!
when all the years below it show a different number with the same generation, and nothing has changed in the wight, engine, look, style, that number was obviously bogus.. ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE BOGUS. I don't believe any of them, not the 6th gen, not the 5th gen, 4th gen ect.. i used it to prove a point, that point being there is a trend. the younger the generation the faster the number...
PAH!
useless...
still, i trust the word of the few people who own or have personally experienced this first hand.. your not one of them, just another numbers guy with inexperienced bias. and an opinion so strong you believe it as fact
ill gladly admit 6th gens are slower when someone with a 5.5 accepts the challenge, and passes me up.
i haven't even officially picked a side, all i have is my bias, im still open to the fact 5.5 gens could have a faster ride, all i wanna do is find out, have some fun in the process, and squash the question with the rest who are wondering..
still, i trust the word of the few people who own or have personally experienced this first hand.. your not one of them, just another numbers guy with inexperienced bias. and an opinion so strong you believe it as fact
ill gladly admit 6th gens are slower when someone with a 5.5 accepts the challenge, and passes me up.
i haven't even officially picked a side, all i have is my bias, im still open to the fact 5.5 gens could have a faster ride, all i wanna do is find out, have some fun in the process, and squash the question with the rest who are wondering..
you know what, im getting so sick of people always talking about it being a drivers race.
i am completely disinterested in this whole point.
i drive an automatic right now, all i need to do is put my foot down and keep the wheels from spinning (not hard to do), and the car will perform the exact same way every single time. this will aid in making variable #1 ( out of the 2 variables) a constant. which leaves variable #2 (given he isn't an auto) to agree on the good performance of his run.
best case is, i get a 5.5 gen automatic so no one can give the excuse "oh that person just didn't know how to drive" i don't want any excuses. if the opponent doesn't know how to drive his car, then the race done to determine which CAR is faster is not a fair race, end of story. and ill have to find someone else.
the difference between a good run and a perfect run isn't so large it throws out the validity of a race. unless the race is extremely close every time. unless your a complete idiot, we can estimate the actual outcome, with how much more we think the car could have done if driven the right way, and conclude it this way. i only see this being a problem if after ever race, both cars tie or come extremely close to each other. all that is needed is some common sense.
Also because i will be driving an automatic, if at any time the 5.5 gen 6 speed wins, then the race is over and the winner is the 5.5 gen, given i didn't mess up (and again, its not hard to get a good launch on a auto so the odds are small that i will) if the cars tie, or come within milliseconds of each other, calling it a drivers race would be appropriate THEN, but right now? give me a break, your giving excuses before anything has even happened!! Unless you have PERSONALLY done this race, and have experienced it first hand allowing you to know that the race is going to be extremely close, you have no right to say its down to the driver. for anyone who keeps saying this, your making an assumption, a guess, and your talking out your ***.
Now, if i can get an auto 5.5 gen to race me, than the whole drivers race thing will go out the window. If one car repeatedly wins in the 6th gen auto vs. a 5th gen auto, then we will know which car is faster without a shadow of a doubt. AND, If we can come to a conclusion between autos, then we can come to a conclusion about a 5.5 gen 6 speed and a 6th gen 6 speed, and which one is faster given both drivers know how to drive, and they both didn't mess up. I am interested in the capabilities of each car, not the given circumstance.
I want to solve this on a fair playing field. end of story. this is supposed to be an honest, fun activity. I'm not going to race, have the guy in the 6 speed say oh i didn't do my best, and then say, well too bad ect.. we race again until the driver says that's the best this car can do and use that race as the deciding race.
so... can we quit talking about this being down to a drivers race? your being completely ignorant by saying its the driver that will determine the outcome unless you have done this before and can say first hand its down to a drivers race because both cars are so close.
Is the horse good an dead yet?
i am completely disinterested in this whole point.
i drive an automatic right now, all i need to do is put my foot down and keep the wheels from spinning (not hard to do), and the car will perform the exact same way every single time. this will aid in making variable #1 ( out of the 2 variables) a constant. which leaves variable #2 (given he isn't an auto) to agree on the good performance of his run.
best case is, i get a 5.5 gen automatic so no one can give the excuse "oh that person just didn't know how to drive" i don't want any excuses. if the opponent doesn't know how to drive his car, then the race done to determine which CAR is faster is not a fair race, end of story. and ill have to find someone else.
the difference between a good run and a perfect run isn't so large it throws out the validity of a race. unless the race is extremely close every time. unless your a complete idiot, we can estimate the actual outcome, with how much more we think the car could have done if driven the right way, and conclude it this way. i only see this being a problem if after ever race, both cars tie or come extremely close to each other. all that is needed is some common sense.
Also because i will be driving an automatic, if at any time the 5.5 gen 6 speed wins, then the race is over and the winner is the 5.5 gen, given i didn't mess up (and again, its not hard to get a good launch on a auto so the odds are small that i will) if the cars tie, or come within milliseconds of each other, calling it a drivers race would be appropriate THEN, but right now? give me a break, your giving excuses before anything has even happened!! Unless you have PERSONALLY done this race, and have experienced it first hand allowing you to know that the race is going to be extremely close, you have no right to say its down to the driver. for anyone who keeps saying this, your making an assumption, a guess, and your talking out your ***.
Now, if i can get an auto 5.5 gen to race me, than the whole drivers race thing will go out the window. If one car repeatedly wins in the 6th gen auto vs. a 5th gen auto, then we will know which car is faster without a shadow of a doubt. AND, If we can come to a conclusion between autos, then we can come to a conclusion about a 5.5 gen 6 speed and a 6th gen 6 speed, and which one is faster given both drivers know how to drive, and they both didn't mess up. I am interested in the capabilities of each car, not the given circumstance.
I want to solve this on a fair playing field. end of story. this is supposed to be an honest, fun activity. I'm not going to race, have the guy in the 6 speed say oh i didn't do my best, and then say, well too bad ect.. we race again until the driver says that's the best this car can do and use that race as the deciding race.
so... can we quit talking about this being down to a drivers race? your being completely ignorant by saying its the driver that will determine the outcome unless you have done this before and can say first hand its down to a drivers race because both cars are so close.
Is the horse good an dead yet?
If every nissan is faster by generation explain why the 300zx is faster than the 350Z smart guy.
a NWP plate and Y pipe don't necessarily mean far from stock.
07-05-2011, 10:46 AM
#135
07-05-2011, 10:53 AM
#138
I say you guys meet up and get it on video, and prove the G35 is faster.....even thou we already know.
07-05-2011, 11:03 AM
#140
Sorry, bud. 3500 pounds, eh?
Last edited by Rochester; 07-05-2011 at 11:07 AM.
07-05-2011, 11:39 AM
#143
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 92
G sedans are not faster than maxima's they weight a lot more. i've beat many G35's in my max
07-05-2011, 12:10 PM
#145
What are you talking about, i'm full bolted-on 2 and that include nos but the bottles empty
I wasn't calling him out any way i was agreeing with him.
I wasn't calling him out any way i was agreeing with him.
07-05-2011, 12:15 PM
#146
I'll invite you to the private strip . your only1-1half hours away come on it will be fun. do you have a camcorder ?
07-05-2011, 12:28 PM
#148
Lets do this, i win you sell me ur rota's 50 dollars cheaper then asking price.....deal
^^
His power mods are y-pipe , 2.5 cat back and sri
pretty much stock for a 5.5
His power mods are y-pipe , 2.5 cat back and sri
pretty much stock for a 5.5
07-05-2011, 01:20 PM
#149
You're forgetting the block plate, torque link, intake spacers, and crank pulley. Maybe I'm forgetting a few things but if I'm not mistaken I believe that's just about every main bolt-on mod you can get for these cars minus headers. That's a pretty far cry from a stock Maxima.
07-05-2011, 01:23 PM
#150
I'm referring to without you spraying that is
Btw... You guys are all slow
07-05-2011, 01:31 PM
#151
Are you guys actually arguing about what mods have been applied to my car? That's about the funniest thing I've read in quite a while.
Carry on. I will continue to read half of the conversation.
Carry on. I will continue to read half of the conversation.
07-05-2011, 01:34 PM
#152
You may get to read it all if they use the quote feature
07-05-2011, 01:46 PM
#153
It's like the puny kid made of skin and bones on the playground running his big mouth saying he's stronger and can lay a beating on the much larger, muscular football player with a gentle, teddy-bear persona. The fight is never going to happen, but if it did, we all know who would come out on top.
07-05-2011, 01:58 PM
#154
No it's not. Take your bent valves elsewhere.
We all know the G is faster. RWD will always beat out FWD. Less spinning and better hookup on takeoff. 
They obviously had no idea how to drive. I've eaten plenty of Maximas alive in my G35. And all I've got is a short ram intake. How can ANY car with 265 HP outrun 280 HP? It just doesn't make sense.
Ask the 6th gen owners. They know. 
Too much driving at the price of gas...sorry homie. 
Last edited by Mr. Brett; 07-05-2011 at 02:01 PM.
07-05-2011, 02:17 PM
#155
Not always, your 2dr is a fat a$$ in disguise. Look it up, weights more then my 4dr family sedan. I know G35 owners don't like to admit that their cars get smoked by 4 dr family sedans. I wouldn't either if I had a G35 but it is what it is bro.
Why a 265HP car can beat a 2dr RWD that has 285hp?? Well lets review all the possible factors.
Bad driver, automatic versus my 6spd, heavier then mine, no mods versus my mods. Cheap tires versus quality tires. Lots of things come to mind.
Bad *** mods are not the only thing that makes a car win races, you have to know how to drive it too, specially manual. Like I said before, it's hard for guys that go and buy a sports car, RWD to admit that they get smoked by a 4dr family sedan, it's not natural right? Well a Maxima is a 4dr sports car, a great sleeper if you ask me.
Ok well I usually don't get into these **** contests about who faster but since you quoted me, I had to give you my two cents.
Last edited by RAZ76; 07-05-2011 at 02:21 PM.
07-05-2011, 02:27 PM
#156
Not always, your 2dr is a fat a$$ in disguise. Look it up, weights more then my 4dr family sedan. I know G35 owners don't like to admit that their cars get smoked by 4 dr family sedans. I wouldn't either if I had a G35 but it is what it is bro.
265HP, mine is actually 270 from factory, not putting that to the wheels of course but just want to clarify soemthing. Why a 270HP car can beat a 2dr RWD that has 285hp?? Well lets review all the possible factors.
Bad driver, automatic versus my 6spd, heavier then mine, no mods versus my mods. Cheap tires versus quality tires. Lots of things come to mind.
Bad *** mods are not the only thing that makes a car win races, you have to know how to drive it too, specially manual. Like I said before, it's hard for guys that go and buy a sports car, RWD to admit that they get smoked by a 4dr family sedan, it's not natural right? Well a Maxima is a 4dr sports car, a great sleeper if you ask me.
Ok well I usually don't get into these **** contests about who faster but since you quoted me, I had to give you my two cents.
265HP, mine is actually 270 from factory, not putting that to the wheels of course but just want to clarify soemthing. Why a 270HP car can beat a 2dr RWD that has 285hp?? Well lets review all the possible factors.
Bad driver, automatic versus my 6spd, heavier then mine, no mods versus my mods. Cheap tires versus quality tires. Lots of things come to mind.
Bad *** mods are not the only thing that makes a car win races, you have to know how to drive it too, specially manual. Like I said before, it's hard for guys that go and buy a sports car, RWD to admit that they get smoked by a 4dr family sedan, it's not natural right? Well a Maxima is a 4dr sports car, a great sleeper if you ask me.
Ok well I usually don't get into these **** contests about who faster but since you quoted me, I had to give you my two cents.
Chyeah.
Just because a car weighs more doesn't make it slower. You've gotta think aerodynamics, too. The drag coefficient on the G is much lower than it is on the Maxima. Duh. What happens when you're going 130 MPH? That wall of air is gonna slow your big boat down.
And how does your car have 270 over everyone else's 265, anyway? What makes YOUR Maxima so special? Did you get some kind of factory freak?
On top of that, so what if I have an automatic? I can just step on the gas and go, with a coffee in one hand, while everyone else is hunched over their cars' gearboxes, looking like they're taking a big, sweaty ****. Meanwhile I'm reclined in my seat with a smile, passing them up.
I used to have a 6MT, but it's gone now. I realized that an automatic G35 coupe is the way to go because, well, the Coupe can be made much faster than the Maxima with just an intake and exhaust. And there's no way a human can shift between gears faster than a computer can. Look at the GT-R.
07-05-2011, 02:44 PM
#158
Why sacrifice my beautiful heated seats for racing seats? That kind of pocket change weight reduction is a waste of time.
07-05-2011, 02:56 PM
#159
Mine's pretty much stock uummm no My power mods : CAI out the wheel well, headers, 3''id from the flex section to were the cat use to be then it goes 3''od all the way to the muffler , hand polised UIM & LIM, Trans go kit super afc-2 , corys 20 banger vis delete ....ect and lets not for get the refresned 05 motor
^^^^
Hey i have nothing to do all day tomorow after 2
Mr. brett
I took an auto z light to light an auto g should be jus a brezze
Hey i have nothing to do all day tomorow after 2
Mr. brett I took an auto z light to light an auto g should be jus a brezze
07-05-2011, 03:09 PM
#160
All those mods mentioned are all good but with out headers and a more free flowing catt-back(3''id or better). They don't make as much power with out said supporting mods.
You're forgetting the block plate, torque link, intake spacers, and crank pulley. Maybe I'm forgetting a few things but if I'm not mistaken I believe that's just about every main bolt-on mod you can get for these cars minus headers. That's a pretty far cry from a stock Maxima.
Last edited by Clashez; 07-05-2011 at 03:13 PM.