Stand alones, Piggybacks, wide bands, programmers ect...
#1
Stand alones, Piggybacks, wide bands, programmers ect...
I am onto my next Maxima project and this is to tune my ride. I have access to a free dynamometer but I would have to buy the software for the Maxima and the credits and the price for it is ungodly.. so I am looking into street tuning.
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What do you guys have as an engine management system, where did you get it, how much, how user friendly is it, and how do you like it overall.
for the original post read down, its been quoted.
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What do you guys have as an engine management system, where did you get it, how much, how user friendly is it, and how do you like it overall.
for the original post read down, its been quoted.
Last edited by twentyeggs; 07-07-2011 at 03:48 PM.
#2
A thread by twentyeggs this should be good.......
what are you mods if you don't mind me asking, I'm using the apexi super afc-2. I paid 150 for it brand new never used from another orger.
storms has one for sale $180
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-g35-rays.html
what are you mods if you don't mind me asking, I'm using the apexi super afc-2. I paid 150 for it brand new never used from another orger.
storms has one for sale $180
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-g35-rays.html
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:06 PM.
#3
my engine mods so far are: a SRI, Block off plate, 3" custom exhaust, and a electric cutout placed right after the 3rd cat.
Future Mods: pretty much i am going to mod the car with anything and everything available, turbo included, i need to finish up my schooling and start working a decent job before i invest the 10 grand its probably all going to cost before im satisfied and ready to move onto the next car.
near future mods: i plan on getting some IM spacers. and a race line y pipe..
i found a First generation Apexi VAFC for 80 bucks used. im going to pick that up tomorrow. unless someone on here says its no good. the dude, told me it only works on hondas with vtec engines. but i have a feeling he only thinks it messes with RPM and not fuel to air ratios.
i didn't search for it yet, but if anyone knows off the top of your head where i can find a wiring diagram for it, i would really appreciate it.
i really hope the popcorn will go unneeded..
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:06 PM.
#4
my engine mods so far are: a SRI, Block off plate, 3" custom exhaust, and a electric cutout placed right after the 3rd cat.
Future Mods: pretty much i am going to mod the car with anything and everything available, turbo included, i need to finish up my schooling and start working a decent job before i invest the 10 grand its probably all going to cost before im satisfied and ready to move onto the next car.
near future mods: i plan on getting some IM spacers. and a race line y pipe..
i found a First generation Apexi VAFC for 80 bucks used. im going to pick that up tomorrow. unless someone on here says its no good. the dude, told me it only works on hondas with vtec engines. but i have a feeling he only thinks it messes with RPM and not fuel to air ratios.
i didn't search for it yet, but if anyone knows off the top of your head where i can find a wiring diagram for it, i would really appreciate it.
Future Mods: pretty much i am going to mod the car with anything and everything available, turbo included, i need to finish up my schooling and start working a decent job before i invest the 10 grand its probably all going to cost before im satisfied and ready to move onto the next car.
near future mods: i plan on getting some IM spacers. and a race line y pipe..
i found a First generation Apexi VAFC for 80 bucks used. im going to pick that up tomorrow. unless someone on here says its no good. the dude, told me it only works on hondas with vtec engines. but i have a feeling he only thinks it messes with RPM and not fuel to air ratios.
i didn't search for it yet, but if anyone knows off the top of your head where i can find a wiring diagram for it, i would really appreciate it.
So are you saying you put your exhaust cutout after all your cats ??
#5
each header has 1 cat, then it goes to y pipe with the 3rd un-metered cat, and that is where i attached my cutout. any higher or lower on the exhaust setup and it would not sound as good as it does.
where would you have put it?
where would you have put it?
#7
Hey i'm in on the learning part to, I have one installed in my car but never mest with any of the settings just the basic set up . I need a Wide Band
you should have had the cut out before the pre cat, I guess you could always take the cat out and have it replaced with a pipe
you should have had the cut out before the pre cat, I guess you could always take the cat out and have it replaced with a pipe
#8
I am onto my next Maxima project and this is to tune my ride. I have access to a free dynamometer but I would have to buy the software for the Maxima and the credits and the price for it is ungodly.. so I am looking into street tuning.
This is completely new to me and after doing a forum search and reading up about these things on the internet i have a basic understanding of what they are though all the import tech jargon, but i am still not perfectly clear and comfortable enough for me to commit and make a decision on what to buy. so I want to start from the beginning and learn what you guys know through experience.
my budget for the max is $800 and I don't wanna go over that.
my questions are.
1) What is a stand alone, what does it do?
2) What is a piggy back, what does it do?
3) What is a Wide Band what does it do?
4) is there anything else that I need to get my car tuned.
5) other than fuel:air and data logging do these products do anything else to maximize performance?
After talking to my buddy, what I know about this stuff is, a piggy back is good for fuel air ratio but you need a wide band to data log and find the point in which to adjust. this is all i know.. and was wondering if this is really all there is to it or if there is anything else that I should know.
Lastly, what do you guys have and how do you like it? what model, price, where did you buy it, ect..
do any of these products allow you to alter timing?
Thanks in advance, I know nothing about all this import tuner junk, i've always been a dyno guy, but I find "street tuning" option is the best option for the money.
as a side note in my search i found this thread :http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
wasn't helpful to me, but may for others.
This is completely new to me and after doing a forum search and reading up about these things on the internet i have a basic understanding of what they are though all the import tech jargon, but i am still not perfectly clear and comfortable enough for me to commit and make a decision on what to buy. so I want to start from the beginning and learn what you guys know through experience.
my budget for the max is $800 and I don't wanna go over that.
my questions are.
1) What is a stand alone, what does it do?
2) What is a piggy back, what does it do?
3) What is a Wide Band what does it do?
4) is there anything else that I need to get my car tuned.
5) other than fuel:air and data logging do these products do anything else to maximize performance?
After talking to my buddy, what I know about this stuff is, a piggy back is good for fuel air ratio but you need a wide band to data log and find the point in which to adjust. this is all i know.. and was wondering if this is really all there is to it or if there is anything else that I should know.
Lastly, what do you guys have and how do you like it? what model, price, where did you buy it, ect..
do any of these products allow you to alter timing?
Thanks in advance, I know nothing about all this import tuner junk, i've always been a dyno guy, but I find "street tuning" option is the best option for the money.
as a side note in my search i found this thread :http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
wasn't helpful to me, but may for others.
#9
If you dont have headers or at least your pre catts gutted i wouldn't even bother with a cutout but i def would have at the least put it before the third one lol..in for dyno #s cutout open and closed
#10
Hey i'm in on the learning part to, I have one installed in my car but never mest with any of the settings just the basic set up . I need a Wide Band
you should have had the cut out before the pre cat, I guess you could always take the cat out and have it replaced with a pipe
you should have had the cut out before the pre cat, I guess you could always take the cat out and have it replaced with a pipe
#11
the cutout does help reguardless of the position. it eliminates all the piping and mufflers which helps reduce resistance by a lot! with the Y pipes i should be even better.
I bought the cutout 90% for the sound, which is also why i bought the expansion chamber and welded it right before the cutout. it added a deeper tone. I played around with all kinds of positions and junk since i did the project my self. this location was the best i found.
#13
Dude you posted the link for the 5th gen piggyback tuning thread when you started this thread..You should have read a little more about it even though there are a couple differences and such between the 5th and 6th gen ecu's but at least you would have got the basic concept of which one does what and got familiar with tuning period..insert foot in mouth
#14
First question before you even get into how to tune etc, do you know how an engine produces power? Because right now you are just speaking nonsense about cutouts and etc. If anything you will LOSE power putting a cutout on a basically stock maxima.
#15
is this the wideband that you got? i did an uprev search and i came to this..
http://secure.uprev.com/cipher.html
for $200 that seems a little cheap.
would i be able to adequately tune my car with the cipher/apexi VAFC1 combo?
Last edited by twentyeggs; 07-07-2011 at 02:46 PM.
#17
Constructive? You want me to be constructive? Lemme try this idea you speak off.
First question before you even get into how to tune etc, do you know how an engine produces power? Because right now you are just speaking nonsense about cutouts and etc. If anything you will LOSE power putting a cutout on a basically stock maxima.
First question before you even get into how to tune etc, do you know how an engine produces power? Because right now you are just speaking nonsense about cutouts and etc. If anything you will LOSE power putting a cutout on a basically stock maxima.
also, i've done 5 runs with my cut out open and 5 runs with it closed against my buddies mustang gt. i know this is a crude way of testing it with all the uncontrolled variables but what i found is with the cutout closed its a drivers race. we tied most of the time and he won by an inch on one race. with it open i lose low end but i catch him and win by a car length every time. so i can tell you that i didn't "lose" any performance if anything i gained some by eliminating the resonator, restrictive kink, and stock mufflers.
Last edited by twentyeggs; 07-07-2011 at 02:55 PM.
#18
Dude you posted the link for the 5th gen piggyback tuning thread when you started this thread..You should have read a little more about it even though there are a couple differences and such between the 5th and 6th gen ecu's but at least you would have got the basic concept of which one does what and got familiar with tuning period..insert foot in mouth
i know what each thing does, but i learn best when i hear about stuff from the beginning. i don't want to assume i know something when there is a possibility i understood it wrong, and then believe in misinformation.
when i know something, i want to really know something.
please quit picking apart my thread and help.
#19
Explain to me why it wasn’t helpful?
Originally Posted by twentyeggs
as a side note in my search i found this thread :The 5th Gen Piggyback/Tuning Thread
wasn't helpful to me, but may for others.
wasn't helpful to me, but may for others.
#20
To start, cutouts are usually only useful on cars that have high lift and duration cams, otherwise its just because you want to make a lot of noise at the flip of a switch. The only exception i have seen to this are K series hondas but we dont drive those. I can tell you from experience you are not ready to deal with cams, so you might aswell just sell the cutout.
If you want more power out of a VQ35 a 3" exhuast is what is needed. 2.5" is quieter but you sacrifice almost 10hp with it vs the 3". Headers, especially on the 6th gen with its extremely restrictive cats&precats will also free up a good amount of hp. Depending on the state you are in you might be able to get away with a test pipe you might not, in my state as long as the car doesn't throw a code then i pass, so i run a test pipe.
A cheap and easy mod most people that own dremels dont even pay a dime out of pocket is to delete the VIAS on the intake manifold, what is known on here as a BOP(block off plate). When we are talking about nissans most of the power and characteristics of the motor is all locked inside of the intake manifold. BOPs are a good place to start.
Cold air intakes, pop chargers, and Short ram intakes are all essentially the same, the question you have to ask your self is do you want a loud intake or a quiet one, if you want loud, Pop charges and Short rams are the way to go, cold air intakes make a few more hps but 2-4hp is not big enough of a difference to really make a huge fuss out of.
piggybacks, stand alones and widebands you dont have to worry about until you are close to full bolt-on, by that time i assure you, you WILL know what they do. Right now they will just blow your mind. Start at the basics.
If you want more power out of a VQ35 a 3" exhuast is what is needed. 2.5" is quieter but you sacrifice almost 10hp with it vs the 3". Headers, especially on the 6th gen with its extremely restrictive cats&precats will also free up a good amount of hp. Depending on the state you are in you might be able to get away with a test pipe you might not, in my state as long as the car doesn't throw a code then i pass, so i run a test pipe.
A cheap and easy mod most people that own dremels dont even pay a dime out of pocket is to delete the VIAS on the intake manifold, what is known on here as a BOP(block off plate). When we are talking about nissans most of the power and characteristics of the motor is all locked inside of the intake manifold. BOPs are a good place to start.
Cold air intakes, pop chargers, and Short ram intakes are all essentially the same, the question you have to ask your self is do you want a loud intake or a quiet one, if you want loud, Pop charges and Short rams are the way to go, cold air intakes make a few more hps but 2-4hp is not big enough of a difference to really make a huge fuss out of.
piggybacks, stand alones and widebands you dont have to worry about until you are close to full bolt-on, by that time i assure you, you WILL know what they do. Right now they will just blow your mind. Start at the basics.
#23
The tuning concepts from the 5th gen thread still apply.
The applications/availability for tuning a 6th gen is different. VAFC won't work, SAFC2 will. (From what I've read). I'd do some more looking into UpRev for the 6th gen ECU, seems like one of the only options that is actually more powerful than a SAFC2.
The applications/availability for tuning a 6th gen is different. VAFC won't work, SAFC2 will. (From what I've read). I'd do some more looking into UpRev for the 6th gen ECU, seems like one of the only options that is actually more powerful than a SAFC2.
#24
Also read up on how a motor runs, compression ratios, Air/fuel ratios, NA vs forced induction tuning, how a 4 stroke motor works. this will all answer a lot of questions you have and will help you with any car not just the maxima, This article will help you start to understand:
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0612...ics/index.html
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0612...ics/index.html
#25
To start, cutouts are usually only useful on cars that have high lift and duration cams, otherwise its just because you want to make a lot of noise at the flip of a switch. The only exception i have seen to this are K series hondas but we dont drive those. I can tell you from experience you are not ready to deal with cams, so you might aswell just sell the cutout.
If you want more power out of a VQ35 a 3" exhuast is what is needed. 2.5" is quieter but you sacrifice almost 10hp with it vs the 3". Headers, especially on the 6th gen with its extremely restrictive cats&precats will also free up a good amount of hp. Depending on the state you are in you might be able to get away with a test pipe you might not, in my state as long as the car doesn't throw a code then i pass, so i run a test pipe.
A cheap and easy mod most people that own dremels dont even pay a dime out of pocket is to delete the VIAS on the intake manifold, what is known on here as a BOP(block off plate). When we are talking about nissans most of the power and characteristics of the motor is all locked inside of the intake manifold. BOPs are a good place to start.
Cold air intakes, pop chargers, and Short ram intakes are all essentially the same, the question you have to ask your self is do you want a loud intake or a quiet one, if you want loud, Pop charges and Short rams are the way to go, cold air intakes make a few more hps but 2-4hp is not big enough of a difference to really make a huge fuss out of.
piggybacks, stand alones and widebands you dont have to worry about until you are close to full bolt-on, by that time i assure you, you WILL know what they do. Right now they will just blow your mind. Start at the basics.
If you want more power out of a VQ35 a 3" exhuast is what is needed. 2.5" is quieter but you sacrifice almost 10hp with it vs the 3". Headers, especially on the 6th gen with its extremely restrictive cats&precats will also free up a good amount of hp. Depending on the state you are in you might be able to get away with a test pipe you might not, in my state as long as the car doesn't throw a code then i pass, so i run a test pipe.
A cheap and easy mod most people that own dremels dont even pay a dime out of pocket is to delete the VIAS on the intake manifold, what is known on here as a BOP(block off plate). When we are talking about nissans most of the power and characteristics of the motor is all locked inside of the intake manifold. BOPs are a good place to start.
Cold air intakes, pop chargers, and Short ram intakes are all essentially the same, the question you have to ask your self is do you want a loud intake or a quiet one, if you want loud, Pop charges and Short rams are the way to go, cold air intakes make a few more hps but 2-4hp is not big enough of a difference to really make a huge fuss out of.
piggybacks, stand alones and widebands you dont have to worry about until you are close to full bolt-on, by that time i assure you, you WILL know what they do. Right now they will just blow your mind. Start at the basics.
thanks man that was really helpful.
i do have a Block off plate. an intake. The reason i got the cutout was not for performace (although i do think i gained a tad bit, wont be for certain until i dyno it), I have always run full exhaust setups in my cars, but for this car i didn't want the constant drone. so your right, i did it so that at a flick of a switch, i could have a great sounding car, and when I'm driving the mom or girlfriend around i can keep it stock quiet. i get the best of both worlds.
#26
CMD and a few others have software (plug-in tuner) that ties into Dynojet and allows tuning through it, but, it’s not available for your car.
This is completely new to me and after doing a forum search and reading up about these things on the internet i have a basic understanding of what they are though all the import tech jargon, but i am still not perfectly clear and comfortable enough for me to commit and make a decision on what to buy. so I want to start from the beginning and learn what you guys know through experience.
Have you read through these threads?
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...s-reading.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...mt-6-7-eu.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...ther-info.html
And this post:
http://forums.maxima.org/6422772-post18.html
Also, refer to this forum for most questions for clarification on any questions generated from the above links.
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor-61/
If you have not read them yet, read through them, thoroughly, download your FSM, get in touch with the EC portion of it, (sleep with it next to your bed, spend 3-4 hours with it each day for a month).
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:10 PM.
#27
Also read up on how a motor runs, compression ratios, Air/fuel ratios, NA vs forced induction tuning, how a 4 stroke motor works. this will all answer a lot of questions you have and will help you with any car not just the maxima, This article will help you start to understand:
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0612...ics/index.html
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0612...ics/index.html
i am completely new to little lcd display devices called piggybacks stand alones and wide bands. its a whole new way of tuning for me, so that is what i am trying to understand is how they work compared to doing it with a dyno program like HP tuners or dynamax. i know how to navigate the software with those programs but not these programmers.
great article btw.. ill be referring back to it when im actually tuning.
The tuning concepts from the 5th gen thread still apply.
The applications/availability for tuning a 6th gen is different. VAFC won't work, SAFC2 will. (From what I've read). I'd do some more looking into UpRev for the 6th gen ECU, seems like one of the only options that is actually more powerful than a SAFC2.
The applications/availability for tuning a 6th gen is different. VAFC won't work, SAFC2 will. (From what I've read). I'd do some more looking into UpRev for the 6th gen ECU, seems like one of the only options that is actually more powerful than a SAFC2.
i just don't wanna be the idiot that buys the wrong thing. im sorry if you think the thread is overkill, but it isn't to me.
why wouldn't the VFAC not work? i thought the only difference between the VFAC and the SFAC is how many tuning points it offers, the VFAC being the better one offering more points of correction.
????
Last edited by twentyeggs; 07-07-2011 at 03:17 PM.
#29
There's a bigger difference between VAFC and SAFC. VAFC is designed for Hondas, and the airflow configs are different because most Hondas use a MAP sensor. This has proved harmless for 4th and 5th gens but apparently doesn't cooperate with 6th gen ECU. What I would do, is search around this section of the forums and get more accurate information on this topic.
BUT...the AFC units are kinda primitive/limited in their capabilities. For maximum power, go with something that has direct ignition & injector control.
#30
Not sure, there are some random threads that say one thing or the other. If I remember correctly, the VAFC and SAFC1 won't work with a 6th gen ECU, but SAFC2 will.
There's a bigger difference between VAFC and SAFC. VAFC is designed for Hondas, and the airflow configs are different because most Hondas use a MAP sensor. This has proved harmless for 4th and 5th gens but apparently doesn't cooperate with 6th gen ECU. What I would do, is search around this section of the forums and get more accurate information on this topic.
BUT...the AFC units are kinda primitive/limited in their capabilities. For maximum power, go with something that has direct ignition & injector control.
There's a bigger difference between VAFC and SAFC. VAFC is designed for Hondas, and the airflow configs are different because most Hondas use a MAP sensor. This has proved harmless for 4th and 5th gens but apparently doesn't cooperate with 6th gen ECU. What I would do, is search around this section of the forums and get more accurate information on this topic.
BUT...the AFC units are kinda primitive/limited in their capabilities. For maximum power, go with something that has direct ignition & injector control.
OK correct me if im wrong, I need the Cipher for data logging, and i need the Osiris for flashing/programming the ecu.
any other products out there that you guys have used?
#31
From some of my links, which by the way are related to the 6th gen forum since I've been through this before, so this thread isn't new. Granted some of the info may be dated, most items apply.
Cipher gives you data readout of each and just about every sensor you could ever want.
You can do essentially all OBDII functions:
Turn the cooling fans on at will
Adjust BTDC ±2º
Adjust idle ±250
Perform a cylinder pressure test
Fuel pressure test
Reset learned driving parameters
Check ABS codes
UTEC will allow you to tune your cars AFR / timing and a slew of other items but no CVTC adjustment (Easiest choice for you guys IMO).
Also, search the topic on my350z.
SAFCII = Adjust MAF voltage in order to alter AFR, but your ECU is more advanced than older gen Maximas, so I'm not 100% convinced the SAFC works for you since the ECU can learn over its(SAFC) corrections.
Keep in mind, I asked PRJ about Osiris, which is made by UpRev, whom are the same people who make Cipher, but Osiris is different than Cipher, but has yet to be tested on any Maxima.
Background on Cipher / Osiris / UTEC:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=551565
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543703
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=393979
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400307
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401526
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=394902
Also, here's another hopeful option that hardly gets mentioned, and for some of you that hardly ever venture out of this forum:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=552860
TS ECU info:
Unless otherwise noted, all data is verified via Cipher/OBDII/Consult Interface
CVTC data logs mimic that of a Z33
AFR is 13.0 +/- 0.2 from 2400 - 7100RPM (Verified by an upstream WBO2 sensor prior to any catalytic convertors)
Timing is + 3-4* from stock (Comparing other stock A33B/A34's vs mine)
Rev limiter is verified @ 7100 (Sometimes it bounces to 7130 etc, but you get the point)
Car has seen ~ 138 MPH on the dyno, (Verified using DJ software.
You can do essentially all OBDII functions:
Turn the cooling fans on at will
Adjust BTDC ±2º
Adjust idle ±250
Perform a cylinder pressure test
Fuel pressure test
Reset learned driving parameters
Check ABS codes
UTEC will allow you to tune your cars AFR / timing and a slew of other items but no CVTC adjustment (Easiest choice for you guys IMO).
Also, search the topic on my350z.
SAFCII = Adjust MAF voltage in order to alter AFR, but your ECU is more advanced than older gen Maximas, so I'm not 100% convinced the SAFC works for you since the ECU can learn over its(SAFC) corrections.
Keep in mind, I asked PRJ about Osiris, which is made by UpRev, whom are the same people who make Cipher, but Osiris is different than Cipher, but has yet to be tested on any Maxima.
Background on Cipher / Osiris / UTEC:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=551565
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543703
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=393979
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400307
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401526
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=394902
Also, here's another hopeful option that hardly gets mentioned, and for some of you that hardly ever venture out of this forum:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=552860
TS ECU info:
Unless otherwise noted, all data is verified via Cipher/OBDII/Consult Interface
CVTC data logs mimic that of a Z33
AFR is 13.0 +/- 0.2 from 2400 - 7100RPM (Verified by an upstream WBO2 sensor prior to any catalytic convertors)
Timing is + 3-4* from stock (Comparing other stock A33B/A34's vs mine)
Rev limiter is verified @ 7100 (Sometimes it bounces to 7130 etc, but you get the point)
Car has seen ~ 138 MPH on the dyno, (Verified using DJ software.
This section is mostly something to help the A34 (6th gen) owners out. Keep in mind, as with anything, there is a lot of reading involved, but I've done the legwork so you can easily find the information w/o spending hours searching for it.
There are a few other misc items at the end that are not A34 specific, but rather for general usage which I deemed to be helpful.
A34 HELP
A34 Header install pics/pointers:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=471832&page=6
Larger MAF & all associated intake ducting post w/ links.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=143
SAFC/VAFC wiring & set-up for 04+.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...g-diagram.html
Patch harness for 04+. This would help AFC/EMU/EB folks return back to stock very easily.
http://www.forgedinternals.com/store...cat=256&page=1
Spoon feeding area with respect to above links:
SR's soldering tips:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...33&postcount=3
Jime's How to splice a wire:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...1&postcount=11
When you have all wb's/AFC's in place, and it's time to tune, here's a good tuning tip:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...8&postcount=17
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.p...ghlight=tuning
There are a few other misc items at the end that are not A34 specific, but rather for general usage which I deemed to be helpful.
A34 HELP
A34 Header install pics/pointers:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=471832&page=6
Larger MAF & all associated intake ducting post w/ links.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=143
SAFC/VAFC wiring & set-up for 04+.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...g-diagram.html
Patch harness for 04+. This would help AFC/EMU/EB folks return back to stock very easily.
http://www.forgedinternals.com/store...cat=256&page=1
Spoon feeding area with respect to above links:
SR's soldering tips:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...33&postcount=3
Jime's How to splice a wire:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...1&postcount=11
When you have all wb's/AFC's in place, and it's time to tune, here's a good tuning tip:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...8&postcount=17
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.p...ghlight=tuning
General Stuff:
Good SAFCII article, but also has pertinent information on any AFC.
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...roject_qg18de/
DynoJet Dyno information.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=19
Cipher data logging software:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=486193
www.uprev.com
Next Gen FWD VQ35 (07 Altima) info:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=508067
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=509918
Intake Manifold pics from FSM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...onals/07IM.jpg
Good information for the A33B pinging kroo.
http://www.ngk.de/Spark_plugs.649.0.html
Good SAFCII article, but also has pertinent information on any AFC.
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...roject_qg18de/
DynoJet Dyno information.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=19
Cipher data logging software:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=486193
www.uprev.com
Next Gen FWD VQ35 (07 Altima) info:
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=508067
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=509918
Intake Manifold pics from FSM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...onals/07IM.jpg
Good information for the A33B pinging kroo.
http://www.ngk.de/Spark_plugs.649.0.html
Due to the fact that a lot of people are not finding this useful information... Here's a little something for you.
Consolidated for you un-searchers.
My MAF thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...iming-mod.html
Kevlo911's Tuning for n00bl3ts
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=481540
SR20DEN's pioneering threads
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...g-advance.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/1...orks-fine.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/1...d-my-vq35.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/2...olts-vq35.html
VAFC set-up info
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...-template.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...ng-advice.html
VAFC > SAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...s-vafc-ii.html
http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...c-vs-safc.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...vs-safcii.html
Wiring diagrams (Jime, Puppetmaster)
VAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=463936
SAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=116
Dandy's EMU threads
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=424181
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=465174
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=484704
eng92's VTC cam angles vs RPM
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.p...VTC+cam+angles
eng92's Air flow data
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=473182
Stock injector sizes for various VQs (credit SR20DEN)
http://forums.maxima.org/3495129-post13.html
Greddy's website and EMU/EMB PDF's
http://www.greddy.com/tech/
OBD scan/monitoring software
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=332205 Thread started by Good info.
http://www.auterraweb.com/
http://www.obdscan.net/
Jimes ebay (deboluz) cam thread
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=434810
Consolidated for you un-searchers.
My MAF thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...iming-mod.html
Kevlo911's Tuning for n00bl3ts
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=481540
SR20DEN's pioneering threads
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...g-advance.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/1...orks-fine.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/1...d-my-vq35.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/2...olts-vq35.html
VAFC set-up info
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...-template.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...ng-advice.html
VAFC > SAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...s-vafc-ii.html
http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...c-vs-safc.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...vs-safcii.html
Wiring diagrams (Jime, Puppetmaster)
VAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=463936
SAFC
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=116
Dandy's EMU threads
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=424181
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=465174
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=484704
eng92's VTC cam angles vs RPM
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.p...VTC+cam+angles
eng92's Air flow data
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=473182
Stock injector sizes for various VQs (credit SR20DEN)
http://forums.maxima.org/3495129-post13.html
Greddy's website and EMU/EMB PDF's
http://www.greddy.com/tech/
OBD scan/monitoring software
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=332205 Thread started by Good info.
http://www.auterraweb.com/
http://www.obdscan.net/
Jimes ebay (deboluz) cam thread
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=434810
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:34 PM.
#32
I guess since all the information asked in the original post, we can turn it into who has what and how they like it. ill edit the origional post so we can get on topic. Thanks for all the help and advice! it was much appreciated.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:49 PM.
#33
It's not an ECU... read the link for it.
No problem, back in the day I really wanted the A34 crowd to get into this modding crap out of your car business, and thus far, most if not al have left. Although the dedicated 6th gen site has done quite a bit of stuff. But yes, always willing to help out.
Of course there's krazy6, but I'm hurt with him since he wont get headers.
Originally Posted by 20eggs
thanks man, i really appreciate it!!
Of course there's krazy6, but I'm hurt with him since he wont get headers.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 03:53 PM.
#35
UpRev makes Osirus and Cipher.
Osirus can alter items and monitor/log.
Cipher can alter very limited items, and monitor/log.
I paid $400 for Cipher back when. As stated prior, you have to pay to play and Osirus will not work for a 5.5 gen easily.. not that it should matter in this sub-forum.
#36
It's not an ECU... read the link for it. :sqiont:
No problem, back in the day I really wanted the A34 crowd to get into this modding crap out of your car business, and thus far, most if not al have left. Although the dedicated 6th gen site has done quite a bit of stuff. But yes, always willing to help out.
Of course there's krazy6, but I'm hurt with him since he wont get headers.
No problem, back in the day I really wanted the A34 crowd to get into this modding crap out of your car business, and thus far, most if not al have left. Although the dedicated 6th gen site has done quite a bit of stuff. But yes, always willing to help out.
Of course there's krazy6, but I'm hurt with him since he wont get headers.
haha, yeah i would really love to get some headers, but passing smog is important to me right now. I plan to do everything else under the sun tho. when i graduate the first thing i do with a good paying job is do a custom turbo kit and a LSD. ill do something with the headers then.. there's a shop that does all F/I and they will measure and bend all the piping I need as well as hook me up with all the right parts.
can't wait.. im obsessed with sleepers.. my buddy has a VW beetle that can kill an evo/STI
Last edited by twentyeggs; 07-07-2011 at 03:57 PM.
#37
Yea i know i'm some what ready to play , so this is better then Emanagment then or just something totally diffrent
UpRev makes Osirus and Cipher.
Osirus can alter items and monitor/log.
Cipher can alter very limited items, and monitor/log.
I paid $400 for Cipher back when. As stated prior, you have to pay to play and Osirus will not work for a 5.5 gen easily.. not that it should matter in this sub-forum.
Osirus can alter items and monitor/log.
Cipher can alter very limited items, and monitor/log.
I paid $400 for Cipher back when. As stated prior, you have to pay to play and Osirus will not work for a 5.5 gen easily.. not that it should matter in this sub-forum.
#38
UpRev makes Osirus and Cipher.
Osirus can alter items and monitor/log.
Cipher can alter very limited items, and monitor/log.
I paid $400 for Cipher back when. As stated prior, you have to pay to play and Osirus will not work for a 5.5 gen easily.. not that it should matter in this sub-forum.
Osirus can alter items and monitor/log.
Cipher can alter very limited items, and monitor/log.
I paid $400 for Cipher back when. As stated prior, you have to pay to play and Osirus will not work for a 5.5 gen easily.. not that it should matter in this sub-forum.
that sounds better then getting an AFR and a wide band
#39
Also, come on man, read the links in post #31 which by the way was reposted from post 26 and partially from post 12.
And again now:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=551565
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543703
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=393979
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400307
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401526
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=394902
Last edited by NmexMAX; 07-07-2011 at 04:07 PM.