Well, after much thought and reluctance, I have decided to leave my maxima as a daily drive and give up on making it a racecarbecausesuperfast. Pretty much after seeing Cattmans post where an exhaust system costs 1200 dollars. I realized, spending a ton of money on a maxima is not going to give me what I want. Charging this much is ridiculous and it’s robbery in my opinion. So with my tail between my legs I went out and bought another corvette LOL!! But this time… I went with a 94 LT-1 so there are no payments I bought it cash. Heres the kicker… This corvette is race built and has about 12,000 dollars with of mods and is pushing over 430HP, in a light as a feather corvette! It seriously puts that wimpy C5 to shame.. It is by far the fastest thing I have even been in up to date. It is scary fast! I am super scared of it right now. Like terrified. Anyway here are some of the mods, there are more but these are the ones I remember and wrote down.

SLP triple cone intake
BBK mass air flow sensor
BBK 58mm throttle body
BBK 42 lbs injector
Performance Headers
6.8 roller rockers
510 cam
Upgraded water pump
All wires in engine bay are MSD
Custom long tube exhaust
Baer brake kit
SDC adjustable front suspension
4 point Roll cage
5 point harness
Transmission upgraded with titanium gears
Short pro shifter
Stage 3 Kevlar clutch
New booster & master cylinder
Hyper tuner box ignition
Upgraded fuel pump
Rear end has been redone
Led tails

If only I could get the maxima to go this fast… however impossible, even with a super 30psi turbo.. There are still many many things I like about the maxima that I don’t about the corvette.

Maxima pros:
It is MUCH more comfortable
The seats in the maxima are heated, and steering wheel
The air conditioning in the maxima is much colder
Both the air conditioning and heater fan blows harder
The sound system is better
It is quiet and reserved
You can fit 4-5 people in it
It gets good gas mileage
It’s pretty stress free
The performance is still above 90% of the cars you see on the road day to day.

Modded C4 Corvette pros:
It is ridiculous crazy insanely terrifyingly fast….
It takes corners the maxima struggles at with a yawn
With its straight pipes and Cams it sounds like a beast
The roof comes off and you can ride around with the wind in your hair
It is a 6 speed!
And… it is becauseracecar!!!

So in my comparison, if I had to choose between the two, I’d pick the maxima. Just because it is more practical. Even if the corvette was stock and didn’t feel like wild pissed off stallions trying to escape a brush fire, the maxima is just so much more comfortable. However, I don’t have to pick, and there for I get a v8 mistress!!! Now I just need to tame her!

anyways here are some pics, sorry but camera phone is all i had on me.




The guy left the look completely stock, so it can be a sleeper. I agree!

 

 

There is an older guy with a sick mullet in my town that has a green c4 manual with heads, cam, headers and full exhaust.
I walked that car so hard three different times and everytime he see's me he still chucks revs at me lolz. If you put 12,000 bucks into a Maxima you could easily get 430hp out of it if not more so what's your point kid ?
Remember.. If your at the dragstrip with a Maxima running 12's more people will look at your car than a muscle car running 10's because muscle cars are expected to be fast Maxima's aren't.

 

We dont drive maximas because theyre fast. We drive maximas because its different.

Get a fourth gen... They run 10s too.

 

Cattman asks so much for the headers because there is very small customer base in the maxima game who even mod, and headers done on a maxima is not a quick job. Besides, if you actually bought Cattman's headers, you'd notice they're of some superb quality compared to ebay altima headers and made to fit your car perfectly with not hassle or needing to mod anything.

As for the track toy, cool story.

 

very true! one of the many reason i love the maxima so much, it is an unsuspecting car.. Well im back from another ride. Had a buddy time me with a stop watch like 20 times i was getting average 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. They guy who sold it to me said he can get it in 4 flat if i let the air out of my tires to a few pounds. The biggest issue is keeping the wheels from spinning.

My point is if you had 400+ HP in a maxima... you just wouldn't be able to drive it. It would be impossible to get anything out of the maxima unless you were running slicks. And who is going to drive (illegally) on slicks. especially if you can't even u-turn. Having something with RWD means you can utilize lots of power on street tires.

 

I totally understand. And yes i've seen some of cattmans stuff. Top tier my man.

 

Since when does intake, headers, and cam make 430hp on an LT1? Did I miss something?

 

Nice ride but your car will only be used for racing. Not a family car, can't go grocery shopping and it will suck when you need to repair stuff because old school vettes parts are pricey. But atleast you got a open top. So with all that power, do you plan to take it to the track or just race on the streets and hwys?

 

It doesn't... The LT1 was rated at 300 crank hp, and the special high performance version, the LT4, was 330.

I'd like to see some dyno numbers. My estimate is that it makes no more than 350whp.

 

im guessing 375-400 range. LT1's put down pretty good numbers when being able to breathe. Larger intake, MAF, and TB + headers and exhaust should make that breathe pretty good.

In for dyno sheet

 

Winner.

However, the last few years of the C4 are by far my favorite for the Corvette, and this one seems modified more than worthy. Now just remove those trashy racing stripes.

 

This statement right here leads me to belive you know absolutely nothing about fwd/rwd and awd platforms. Number two Any car on a full slick is going to run a good 60ft time on the track unless it blows up. And a rear wheel drive car with alot of power on street tires is absolutely pointless and will spin like crazy. You have been on here for a while man and i figured your noobness would slowly go away over time but it's threads like this that make me realize how stupid and clueless you still are.I have owned a nitrous injected GSXR 1000, Multiple supercharged Fox Body Mustangs a few over 550 horse and a 330 horse Maxima. Belive me when i tell you i know alot about wheelspin and how to correct some of it.

 

Honestly I think that's a big high, unless it has an aftermarket UIM. The stock one starts to drop off quite rapidly after 5,000 rpm, mostly in torque, whereas hp numbers usually level off by 5,000 rpm.

 

i seem to agree with roch on a lot of things

 

Come to think of it, I agree with that too. I vote for stripe removal.

 

Too funny.

Hotshot, could your Subaru put this old Vette down?

 

For the FWD comments, look man, I go to the drag strip all the time. The BIGGEST part of racing with those crazy 8 second 1/8 mile civics is managing wheel spin. Some guy even said "it kinda takes the fun out of racing, i wish i started with a RWD car" so i am going off the experts on this one. I am sure you can do a lot to reduce wheel spin with traction rods ect.. but if you have over 400 HP in a car its going to be like wrangling a pride of lions. I know you are aware of torque steer.

As for the HP
well i guess you did miss something.. This is not a 3.5 liter v6, This is 5.7 liter V8. Doing anything to this car is going to be significantly higher in gains. Did you know on a turbo diesel truck, like a chevy 2500 a tune and exhaust adds 150 hp? these cars are all very different in terms of mods and gains. Second you also missed:
BBK mass air flow sensor
BBK 58mm throttle body
BBK 42 lbs injector
510 Cams
Rocker Rollers (i know what they are now, and they do some good work!)
These DO add significantly to an LT-1's performance. especially the cams! cams on this car can add 70+ HP. here is the reasoning behind the air flow. The LT-1 is a smog machine. They do MASSIVE amounts of restrictions to keep the EPA happy, yes even back in 94.

yes it puts down over 400 HP, no i am not going to spend a 100 bucks proving it. The man said he Dyno'd it 3 years ago at 429, im guessing its faded a bit since then at the most 10HP. The reason i don't really care all that much is because, it doesn't really matter. It is fast enough to satisfy me without having to fall on numbers to give it valor.

And YES i hate those stripes. I am getting them removed ASAP. I found a place to do my paint job, i just need to make time to do it.

 

If its faster than a C6 ZO6 than meh.

If it can't beat a C5 ZO6 then no way, i have that beat.
the guy that sold it to me also has a twin turbo C5, and says in an 1/8 miles drag i would beat him, in a 1/4 mile it would be a good race. Reason is his C5 is an automatic and the turbo lag would allow me to gain some good distance in combo with it being very fast. If it was from a rolling start he would walk me from the start. However his is putting down 540 to the wheels.

 

 

Look see i am not the only one getting these numbers check out these guys

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html

 

I for one think it is a nice car. I think you really need to get rid of those racing stripes though. New rims as well. Hopefully you stick around the forums and provide the valuable input and advice you have given over the past two years. I would be careful in this thread however. It's like jumping in a lions den with pork chops around your neck and trying to keep the lions from eating you. Not the best of choices, but if your brave enough.... Ohh and by the way what did you do to the max?

 

honestly, i dont know. i am having the car dyno'd the sat after thanksgiving. hoping for about 280whp/300tq. not bad for a downpipe and etune

 

I am pretty sure he didn't open this thread to see who's car is faster. He clearly stated that he would chose his maxima over his vet, give him some slack and stay on subject.

 

:/

 

The subject is titled, "Comparison of Corvette vs. Maxima".

Have some fun, for crying out loud.

 

No I am, just don't like to see others who contribute so much of their time on here get F**ked with. Especially when someone brings up comparing a subaru to anything. Might as well include a turbo'd dodge neon into the subject. You can't compare turbo to NA, just not a fair comparison. If he STS twin turbo'd his new vet, he would be pushing about 600hp. Being fair, you could do that with the max and get about 450hp. A lot of money can do whatever you want. Possibilities are almost endless with the right amount of cash. with 12k in bolt-ons, you can twin turbo a max and convert it to all wheel drive. That would be sick.

 

She is still sitting in my covered parking spot. lol The vette gets to stay in the sun until another covered spot opens up. I've got dibbs with my manager. I am not going to get rid of the maxima for a long time. Shoot i may even ready it for storage and keep it as a first car for my kids. Its safe, reliable, and quick enough to safely pass on freeway for them. Ill just disengage the cutout so they can't get into the spirit of spirited driving I am totally going to stick around. I've always had a maxima in my life, ever since i was 17, im gunna keep tradition!

 

woah.. if i could find a shop in california willing to convert a max to AWD i am IN!! Around where i live, i took me a month just to find one shop willing to turbo it for me. and they want 6.8k out the door.. no tune.. Just looking at the c4 a monkey could instal one himself. i need to take a pic of the engine. the way its built its like they put the engine on a platform. you can get into any part of it with any tool.

here one from the internets

 

Whole car, or just the stripes? I wonder if you went matte black on the stripes if you could pull that off and save yourself $$$ on a whole-car paint job?

No, no, no Those sawblades are iconic. They belong on the car.

Yes, clearly you're having fun. Not all all upset.

 

I have a thing against subies and srts.

 

Yeah whole car, there are a few sun damages spot on the tail so i figure just get the whole car done. It will look brand new from the outside of i do.

I have been debating back and forth what kind of black i should get, matte or the regular shine with clear. What do you guys think?

I think matte looks real cool but at the same time it looks cheap and bad when it gets dirty. I live in a place where dust loves to collect, My cars don't stay clean for very long... something i used to be meticulous about when i was living in NorCal. But regular black with clear looks so mainstream. However with a wash and wax it looks beautiful. so i donno. If this was a stingray id go matte all day.

as for removing the stripes all together, i don't know, all i know is they REALLY don't need to be white.. something more subtle would look great. I like the matte idea, ill look into that. Maybe a lighter shade of black

The rims are going to stay, First they are iconic i agree, second having a stock look makes the car a sleeper. I'm way into that still. One of the reasons i like the maxima. unsuspecting and fast.

 

As an owner of a camaro ss i can say it does make alot more financial sense (as far as cars go) to just buy a purpose built muscle car. Nice vette.

 

if you on a budget and dont want a real paint job check out dipyourcar.com you can plastidip your whole car matte colors. just have a good spraying technique no wrist action and you should have a smooth even finish. i want to plastidip my maxima in the summer possibly matte white and if i do ima redo my whole interior black with white inserts from leatherseats.com and name my car phantom! haha you can always practice with plastidip spray cans i get a very even smooth finish with the cans so i might do the whole car but with a real sprayer. i think your vette would look beastly in matte yellow, the firebelly orange the matte blue or the matte white color from plastidip. matte black sometimes look cheap, rattlecanned, and can be confused for primer sometimes on older cars... or even newer cars lol

 

Chalkboard spray paint. This way you can let your kids color new designs on it each day with chalk.

 

OH no.. i've had my share and experience with plastidip. That stuff is horrible. I mean it looks really good for the first month or so. but as soon as you get any water on it, it holds onto those hard water spot like crazy. And then when grease gets on it, it never goes away. It just absorbs in to the porous plastidip and collect every particle of dust. And after about 6 months plastidip loses its elasticity, meaning it doesn't peel off anymore. It rips and tears. It took me 3 hours of picking PER RIM. You also can never enter a car wash. You will be screwed if you get a rock that flies up and hits your bumper or hood. You can't touch up plastidip, it has to be done evenly and done in one job. Sorry to be so negative about this stuff, its just my opinion. I've done a lot of plastidip on my car, and i dread the day it needs to come off... It looks good for small things like the emblems and lettering, your grille as long as you realize it will never come off the grille after a year. But when you whole car is done all the little imperfections that are acceptable on the accents of the car wont be. also when you do get a scratch or rip, it grows.

 

That engine stock produced 300 hp at the crank. A 20+ year old engine design with the supporting 20+ year old computer software running it with those additions will not put down the power the seller told you. The cam that's in it will not add 70+ horsepower. Don't go and say it doesn't really matter when it does. If you say something, prepare to back it up... If not, that puts you in the troll category and no one likes trolls, especially mods and admins.

The only way that car puts down the 430ish hp to the wheels with the aftermarket parts on it is if the previous owner was spraying on the dyno.

 

again... i am not the only one saying this. Most of the members on the corvette forum who have less mods than me, same car, are putting up the same numbers. It may not makes sense to you, but unless you have had a car with an LT-1 with the same mods, and personally dyno'd it yourself. I can't really take anything you say seriously.. Nothing personal but opinions don't cancel out objective data.

Look for yourself man

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ive-you-2.html

 

lol i never had a issue with it i had my rims done did my friends bumper and a bunch of lil stuff and yea i agree with the grease and the dust but it wasnt a big deal for me cause i wash my car once a week hehe lol you can use paint thinner on it to smooth it and then respray tho.

 

Less mods and same power... Now i've heard it all... Considering i've been around Corvettes and other cars similar in power and performance growing up in a gearhead family, I'd have to see it to believe it.

But whatever... I know for a fact that your car is not putting down 430 to the ground. There's no way a 300 crank hp engine has an additional 150 crank hp with a few bolt-ons and a cam on the stock computer. I've been around these cars too much over the years to know this. If you honestly believe everything the seller told you, then so be it.

Have fun, be safe, and enjoy your new ride... no matter what the real hp/tq numbers are.