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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Level 10 myths busted!!



So i got the Level Ten valve body. There is quite a lack of information out there about it so I thought I would get on here and do a sort of review and answer any questions about it.

When I started researching level ten I was looking for A: the fix to our ****ty valve body and B: performance

A: the valve body is a GOD SEND! I had really bad 2-1 and D-R-D slam shifts. A few times my car went into "safe mode" where it stays in 5th gear. I noticed this happened when it was hot and parked nose down on a hill.

I purchased mine with the shift kit (which is a 100 bucks extra, but if you get a hold of me, and I like you, I can get you one for free as a reference)

I decided to do the instal myself because the best quote I could get was 600 bucks and I'd rather take a day off work and do it myself. I used this as a guide and wanted to thank rpsuprdave for the detailed write up. http://my6thgen.org/f107/2004-2006-v...acement-18681/

Immediately the car drove like new again shifts were quick and transitions like butter. Not the butter you get when it comes out of the fridge and forces you maul your toast in the morning trying to spread it. Butter that's been sitting out in a 75 degree house. yes, that butter.

B: performance. Here is where the lies begin. Many people who have said anything about their valve body (I think even level ten) claim its increases PERFORMANCE exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point. Sunday SUNDAY Sunday and kids are just FIVE BUCKS!!!!

Will its horse feathers. All of it. there is no witch craft hidden in those solenoids. Unless your car had some funky stuff going on it will perform no better than one with a working stock valve body. It is the common placebo effect. You buy a nice part and think that makes the car nicer, and by nicer i mean faster. The butt dyno is a deceptive little bugger when paired with the brain and an empty wallet.

Now there is a subsection to B.

B.1: performance. The level Ten valve body is build ford tough. ford trucks tough cause we know ford puts down the coffee and switches to beer when designing their cars vs trucks. SO if you are running a ton of mods on your car and are driving hard with a 5at you may want to consider this. It is an improvement in quality and strength.

So that is all folks. Here is an honest review and not one by some placebo-junky


Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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good description of butter
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by amerikaner83
good description of butter
haha
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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I think when folks say the performance is better, they're coming from the baseline of a shiity transmission...so the fix performs better than what they've currently got.

As you correctly point out, it's not a performance increase, when the baseline is a properly operating transmission
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Nice unbiased review, 20. Thx bro
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by twentyeggs
it will perform no better than one with a working stock valve body.
That was to be expected...
Maybe there are advantages on a turbo car, I do not know. But on a stock car, changing the valve body is not going to gain you performance...

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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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I also have a VB mod and notice no difference in performance beside small jerks when it shifts bet 1 , 2, and 3rd gear. Im auto... I think the most benefit you get is when your are boosted which I will soon find out.

I wonder if you get the same placebo affect with Level10s high stall torque converter.
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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I also have a VB mod and notice no difference in performance beside small jerks when it shifts bet 1 , 2, and 3rd gear. Im auto... I think the most benefit you get is when your are boosted which I will soon find out.

I wonder if you get the same placebo affect with Level10s high stall torque converter.
no way man, the whole concept of a stall torque converter is to launch yourself from a stop. That will dramatically increase your drag times.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by twentyeggs
no way man, the whole concept of a stall torque converter is to launch yourself from a stop. That will dramatically increase your drag times.
Any Auto guys have this mod? Does it drive like normal when accelerating and when you floor it, it launches?

Anyone?
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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please guys.... a rebuilt valve body or torque converter will not make any difference....
it will "work just fine" but that's it.
Stop dreaming.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryogen
please guys.... a rebuilt valve body or torque converter will not make any difference....
it will "work just fine" but that's it.
Stop dreaming.
I dont feel any difference with the VB mod but allegedly you need it for Boosted applications
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by maxprivate
I dont feel any difference with the VB mod but allegedly you need it for Boosted applications
yes
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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I have a high stall and it is certainly worth the money. I got it from the same guy I got my v2 from and after seeing it in person paired with a SC, it is worth the money but obviously yes it only works from a stop lol
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryogen
please guys.... a rebuilt valve body or torque converter will not make any difference....
it will "work just fine" but that's it.
Stop dreaming.
Just so I understand you right, you are saying that a high stall torque converter does nothing for performance and drag times?
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