OK, Who Bought One? What do you think?
#122
Congrats man on the purchase and welcome, Caint wait to see pics, The dealer a went to last week( Car issue) Has one in the show room with a GTR( Surronded by police tape), LOL Don't touch a guess.. Was $34,5 OTD??
#125
I was at the dealer today but there was no immediate help on this. Their quick answer was that my car must not be "so equipped" as the manual states. When I told them the only options I did not have were the spoiler and the emergency kit for the trunk, they said they would have to check into it more.
I also showed them on page 4-123 of the Owners Manual in the alternate command mode of voice recognition that there is a menu shown that has Tire Pressure as one of the commands (this is in the middle screen on that page). The command Tire Pressure is also listed as one of the commands on page 4-126. However, when I tried this on my car there is no Tire Pressure or Trip Computer on the Info screen as shown in the manual. I also tried those two voice commands and it did not recognize them even though all other commands on the screen were recognized so I suspect their manual needs some revisions.
I will wait and see what the dealer can come up with.
I also showed them on page 4-123 of the Owners Manual in the alternate command mode of voice recognition that there is a menu shown that has Tire Pressure as one of the commands (this is in the middle screen on that page). The command Tire Pressure is also listed as one of the commands on page 4-126. However, when I tried this on my car there is no Tire Pressure or Trip Computer on the Info screen as shown in the manual. I also tried those two voice commands and it did not recognize them even though all other commands on the screen were recognized so I suspect their manual needs some revisions.
I will wait and see what the dealer can come up with.
#126
I took the car into the dealer and they had it for the day and said that the manual is wrong concerning the voice commands referring to the Tire Pressure command. On the 09, there is only the warning light for Low Tire Pressure. There is not a screen that shows the tire pressure for the 4 tires. I wonder why they removed that function this year. I can't imagine that there would be extra cost to keep it. I wonder if it was because it caused too many questions when people looked at it and tried to interpret what it meant. As I remember, they specifically said you could not determine which tire was which in the display.
#128
Well, I am definitely going to have to check this out after driving one. I am currently looking at several cars including the Max, and on many cars the only reason I would want to buy the ridiculously-overpriced nav system is to get the individual tire-pressure readout.
So rather than FIX the problem, and make it so that you can tell what pressure goes with which tire, they decided to REMOVE the information???
I wonder if that info is available from the ODB2? If I can get it from a ScanGauge or if UpRev will add Maxima support to Cipher.
I have been driving along in my Titan and had the TPMS go off. It saved my behind the first time (nail in the tire at the start of 300 mile trip). Every other time it has been a false alarm (cold snap, random weirdness).
Without a display that tells me the tire pressure, TPMS is as useless as a radar detector that goes off for no reason, or a Service Engine Now light that comes on for catastrophic engine failure OR "time to change the oil".
This is NOT helping convince me to spend $10k more than the Challenger (yeah, I know, DCX's build quiality is vastly inferior - you should hear the rattles in my Titan, or see the paint scratches).
I'm not trolling OR giving up yet, just griping.
So rather than FIX the problem, and make it so that you can tell what pressure goes with which tire, they decided to REMOVE the information???
I wonder if that info is available from the ODB2? If I can get it from a ScanGauge or if UpRev will add Maxima support to Cipher.
I have been driving along in my Titan and had the TPMS go off. It saved my behind the first time (nail in the tire at the start of 300 mile trip). Every other time it has been a false alarm (cold snap, random weirdness).
Without a display that tells me the tire pressure, TPMS is as useless as a radar detector that goes off for no reason, or a Service Engine Now light that comes on for catastrophic engine failure OR "time to change the oil".
This is NOT helping convince me to spend $10k more than the Challenger (yeah, I know, DCX's build quiality is vastly inferior - you should hear the rattles in my Titan, or see the paint scratches).
I'm not trolling OR giving up yet, just griping.
#129
Well, I am definitely going to have to check this out after driving one. I am currently looking at several cars including the Max, and on many cars the only reason I would want to buy the ridiculously-overpriced nav system is to get the individual tire-pressure readout.
So rather than FIX the problem, and make it so that you can tell what pressure goes with which tire, they decided to REMOVE the information???
I wonder if that info is available from the ODB2? If I can get it from a ScanGauge or if UpRev will add Maxima support to Cipher.
I have been driving along in my Titan and had the TPMS go off. It saved my behind the first time (nail in the tire at the start of 300 mile trip). Every other time it has been a false alarm (cold snap, random weirdness).
Without a display that tells me the tire pressure, TPMS is as useless as a radar detector that goes off for no reason, or a Service Engine Now light that comes on for catastrophic engine failure OR "time to change the oil".
This is NOT helping convince me to spend $10k more than the Challenger (yeah, I know, DCX's build quiality is vastly inferior - you should hear the rattles in my Titan, or see the paint scratches).
I'm not trolling OR giving up yet, just griping.
So rather than FIX the problem, and make it so that you can tell what pressure goes with which tire, they decided to REMOVE the information???
I wonder if that info is available from the ODB2? If I can get it from a ScanGauge or if UpRev will add Maxima support to Cipher.
I have been driving along in my Titan and had the TPMS go off. It saved my behind the first time (nail in the tire at the start of 300 mile trip). Every other time it has been a false alarm (cold snap, random weirdness).
Without a display that tells me the tire pressure, TPMS is as useless as a radar detector that goes off for no reason, or a Service Engine Now light that comes on for catastrophic engine failure OR "time to change the oil".
This is NOT helping convince me to spend $10k more than the Challenger (yeah, I know, DCX's build quiality is vastly inferior - you should hear the rattles in my Titan, or see the paint scratches).
I'm not trolling OR giving up yet, just griping.
The real kicker is the fact that the spare is not monitored - its ridiculous to not monitor the most "out-of-sight, out-of-mind" tire. Even if you have a full-size spare with aluminum wheel, you cannot do a good 'ol five tire rotation and extend overall tire life by 20% - a significant difference given the cost of these tires.
Add in the extreme fragility of the TPMS valve stems and you can only conclude that TPMS is worthless in any configuration. Damn the government - always trying to "fix" things they don't understand.
Last edited by jcalabria; 09-07-2008 at 08:46 AM.
#130
jcalabria brings out the major reasons the current TPMS falls short of being useful. It would be wonderful to be able to read the psi of each tire (including the spare) right on our dashboard, and know which tire is in which position, but tire rotation makes it technically difficult to do this.
It would also be useful to be able to adjust the psi tripping point of the sensor to other levels than 28, but we would still have the problem of knowing what position that tire currently is on the car.
One possible solution would be to be able to enter the psi at which we want the low tire pressure alert to come on via the screen, and also have the sensors numbered #1 thru #5 (includes spare), and have the ability to manually assign those five numbers to the five tire positions via the screen.
An even more exotic solution would be for the car to have sensors near each wheel that can detect which valve stem is curently at each position, enabling the correct display of psi at each position.
I don't see any of these working solutions happening in the near future; maybe not in my lifetime.
What may eventually bypass this situation is the gradual improvement of run-flat tires until we reach a point that tires no longer have air inside them, but are of semi-solid construction.
It would also be useful to be able to adjust the psi tripping point of the sensor to other levels than 28, but we would still have the problem of knowing what position that tire currently is on the car.
One possible solution would be to be able to enter the psi at which we want the low tire pressure alert to come on via the screen, and also have the sensors numbered #1 thru #5 (includes spare), and have the ability to manually assign those five numbers to the five tire positions via the screen.
An even more exotic solution would be for the car to have sensors near each wheel that can detect which valve stem is curently at each position, enabling the correct display of psi at each position.
I don't see any of these working solutions happening in the near future; maybe not in my lifetime.
What may eventually bypass this situation is the gradual improvement of run-flat tires until we reach a point that tires no longer have air inside them, but are of semi-solid construction.
Last edited by lightonthehill; 09-07-2008 at 12:12 PM.
#131
Had my Maxima 3 days.....and
I love it. I replaced an Lexus ES300 that I bought new in 1998. I was looking at the new ES but hated, hated, hated the "red" wood trim. Also was considering the G35 and Acura TL...until I saw the new Maxima.
I bought the Dark Slate with charcoal interior (purple pink stitching on the leather... not sure why they picked that color but its really cool)
i bought the SV with the sports & tech package.
Can't see myself using the paddles but I loved the 19" wheels (I maybe be sorry for that too as I hear they don't wear well)
The navigation system works really well and is fairly easy to use. The bluetooth is clear I love not having that thing in my ear.
I didn't think I'd use the back up camera but it's really helpful.
The car is very quiet on the highway but you can definitely hear the engine when you accelerate. I don't find the ride rough at all but the suspension is stiffer then the premium model.
Also when you shut the car off it sounds like a jet engine shutting down...kind of weird but cool. My friend who is a huge car buff said it might be a blower of some kind.
Things that I'm NOT happy with are having to put premium gas in the car although they say in the manual that you can do 1/2 and 1/2. Absolutely NO regular though as it can damage the engine.
Price I paid was $400. over dealer invoice.
The car cost $34,825. plus tax and license.
I bought the Dark Slate with charcoal interior (purple pink stitching on the leather... not sure why they picked that color but its really cool)
i bought the SV with the sports & tech package.
Can't see myself using the paddles but I loved the 19" wheels (I maybe be sorry for that too as I hear they don't wear well)
The navigation system works really well and is fairly easy to use. The bluetooth is clear I love not having that thing in my ear.
I didn't think I'd use the back up camera but it's really helpful.
The car is very quiet on the highway but you can definitely hear the engine when you accelerate. I don't find the ride rough at all but the suspension is stiffer then the premium model.
Also when you shut the car off it sounds like a jet engine shutting down...kind of weird but cool. My friend who is a huge car buff said it might be a blower of some kind.
Things that I'm NOT happy with are having to put premium gas in the car although they say in the manual that you can do 1/2 and 1/2. Absolutely NO regular though as it can damage the engine.
Price I paid was $400. over dealer invoice.
The car cost $34,825. plus tax and license.
#132
Welcome to Maxima.org jasper! Excellent choice (and excellent first post).
When the manual says you can do '1/2 and 1/2' with gas, what are they saying? Half premium and half regular? Is midgrade not available in some places? I'm a little confused here (nothing new).
When the manual says you can do '1/2 and 1/2' with gas, what are they saying? Half premium and half regular? Is midgrade not available in some places? I'm a little confused here (nothing new).
#133
I've had my maxima since 8/4. It's my first. The manual says to only use premium- but if it's not available, to use a small amount of 87, but quickly FILL up with premium. Also, according to the manual, one should avoid WOT whilst running <91.
MM1
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#134
So it seems that the '09, unlike the last few generations of Maximas, really DOES require premium. I had excellent performance with all three grades in both my 5th gen and my 6th gen (with each Maxima, I go premium a year or two, midgrade a year or two, then regular). Once I get my '09, I guess I will never be dropping to regular again at any point, unless Nissan changes their mind and tells us something different than what the '09 manual says.
I'm still a little confused about Nissan mentioning a 'small amount of 87', as it would seem using a small amount of 89 (midgrade) should be the first choice if premium is not available.
Thanks, Mastermind.
#135
Welcome to Maxima.org jasper! Excellent choice (and excellent first post).
When the manual says you can do '1/2 and 1/2' with gas, what are they saying? Half premium and half regular? Is midgrade not available in some places? I'm a little confused here (nothing new).
When the manual says you can do '1/2 and 1/2' with gas, what are they saying? Half premium and half regular? Is midgrade not available in some places? I'm a little confused here (nothing new).
1. Have the fuel tank filled only partially with unleaded regular gasoliine and fill up with unleasded premium as soon as possible.
2. Avoid full throttle driving and abrupt acceleration.
However, for maximum vehicle performance, the use of unleaded premium gasoline is recommended."
Thats where I came up with the 1/2 & 1/2. Sorry if it was confusing!
And the previous poster is spot on....why use 87 when you can use 89. I have a hunch the car would run well with 89. The salesperson that sold me the car said that everyone that has purchased them has used 89...
Last edited by jasper; 09-09-2008 at 10:08 AM.
#136
I've driven mine over 3400 miles now and have one complaint: too many rattling noises and loose interior parts in a car w/ this price tag.
Have any other '09 owners noticed if the center console is a bit loose? I can easily move mine back and forth with my hand and it makes a rattling noise but I'm not quite sure if this is what is making the noise while driving -- it may be the dash.
Have any other '09 owners noticed if the center console is a bit loose? I can easily move mine back and forth with my hand and it makes a rattling noise but I'm not quite sure if this is what is making the noise while driving -- it may be the dash.
#137
I noticed a rattle this morning in my car but I THINK that it was just from the key fob in the console. I havent' heard it again so I'll see.
I hate rattles and if I were you I'd have it back to the dealer in a heartbeat!
I hate rattles and if I were you I'd have it back to the dealer in a heartbeat!
#138
I don't hear anything at all on decent pavement of course but once I hit any kind of rough surface I can easily hear it when the stereo is off. It's driving me nuts.
I just took out everything out of my center console compartment and even removed the ipod connector cable. I took it for a drive and the rattle is still there.
My passenger side seatbelt also makes noise hitting either the side of the seat or the side of the car. Am I being too picky? LOL. Hate, hate, hate interior noises.
I just took out everything out of my center console compartment and even removed the ipod connector cable. I took it for a drive and the rattle is still there.
My passenger side seatbelt also makes noise hitting either the side of the seat or the side of the car. Am I being too picky? LOL. Hate, hate, hate interior noises.
#141
I don't hear anything at all on decent pavement of course but once I hit any kind of rough surface I can easily hear it when the stereo is off. It's driving me nuts.
I just took out everything out of my center console compartment and even removed the ipod connector cable. I took it for a drive and the rattle is still there.
My passenger side seatbelt also makes noise hitting either the side of the seat or the side of the car. Am I being too picky? LOL. Hate, hate, hate interior noises.
I just took out everything out of my center console compartment and even removed the ipod connector cable. I took it for a drive and the rattle is still there.
My passenger side seatbelt also makes noise hitting either the side of the seat or the side of the car. Am I being too picky? LOL. Hate, hate, hate interior noises.
I will not tolerate a rattle. Well, maybe if the road surface is obviously cruddy. But when I hear one, I put my wife behind the wheel and become plastic man if necessary in order to contort to where I can find the rattle. Such rattles as those in the console or seats or seat belts or even doors are usually fairly easy to fix. The rattles that really bug me are those inside the dash, where I can't get to them. I will bug a dealer to death before continuing to operate the car with a dash rattle.
This is the first rattle I have seen mentioned here on the '09.
#142
I will not tolerate a rattle. Well, maybe if the road surface is obviously cruddy. But when I hear one, I put my wife behind the wheel and become plastic man if necessary in order to contort to where I can find the rattle. Such rattles as those in the console or seats or seat belts or even doors are usually fairly easy to fix. The rattles that really bug me are those inside the dash, where I can't get to them. I will bug a dealer to death before continuing to operate the car with a dash rattle.
This is the first rattle I have seen mentioned here on the '09.
This is the first rattle I have seen mentioned here on the '09.
#143
FYI, according to Les Schwab (after pulling a wheel off my car), the offset for the stock 2009 19x8 rims is +50mm - apparently quite a change from previous generations where I think the offset was in the 35-42mm range. I'm slightly skeptical of this since I've also heard some people say that there were no changes. Can anyone confirm this offset number?
#144
No more rattle...
Happy to report that the rattle that I thought was my key fob, probably was, as there is no more rattle. YEA!
As far as color....
My last car (ES300) was black and I loved the color (nothing looks as gorgeous as a well kept black car IMHO) but I was pretty fanatical about washing it at least once a week and it was garaged every night.
My 09 MAX is dark slate and doesn't seem to show the dust the way black did. I purchaed the dark slate because I had my last car for 10 years and was ready for (a little) change.
You totally lost me on the wheel/tire ?
Another thing I love about this car....I was (at first) disappointed that I had a single CD player...until I learned that you can burn up to 200 hours of CD's on the cars computer hard driver. Still working on figuring out how it works but I love the idea!!!!
As far as color....
My last car (ES300) was black and I loved the color (nothing looks as gorgeous as a well kept black car IMHO) but I was pretty fanatical about washing it at least once a week and it was garaged every night.
My 09 MAX is dark slate and doesn't seem to show the dust the way black did. I purchaed the dark slate because I had my last car for 10 years and was ready for (a little) change.
You totally lost me on the wheel/tire ?
Another thing I love about this car....I was (at first) disappointed that I had a single CD player...until I learned that you can burn up to 200 hours of CD's on the cars computer hard driver. Still working on figuring out how it works but I love the idea!!!!
#145
FYI, according to Les Schwab (after pulling a wheel off my car), the offset for the stock 2009 19x8 rims is +50mm - apparently quite a change from previous generations where I think the offset was in the 35-42mm range. I'm slightly skeptical of this since I've also heard some people say that there were no changes. Can anyone confirm this offset number?
According to poster coolmax05, who is buying a set of 'takeoff' '09 Maxima wheels for his 6th gen, both the 18X8 and 19X8 2009 Maxima wheels have the same bolt pattern and bore as the 6th gen. He says the offset for both '09 wheels is +50mm, which leaves the spokes on the '09 wheels clearing the calipers on the 6th gen by about 1/4 of an inch. He was surprised to find that Eibach wheel spacers cost $61 for 5mm and $100 for 10mm+.
#146
I called the dealer about the rattles & squeaks I'm experiencing. I'm taking it in Tuesday morning for them to take a look...hope it goes well. I have over 3500 miles on it as well so I'll be having my first scheduled service done.
#147
Happy to report that the rattle that I thought was my key fob, probably was, as there is no more rattle. YEA!
Another thing I love about this car....I was (at first) disappointed that I had a single CD player...until I learned that you can burn up to 200 hours of CD's on the cars computer hard driver. Still working on figuring out how it works but I love the idea!!!!
Another thing I love about this car....I was (at first) disappointed that I had a single CD player...until I learned that you can burn up to 200 hours of CD's on the cars computer hard driver. Still working on figuring out how it works but I love the idea!!!!
Also, set the Mediabox to RECORD all CD's. If you do that, it'll copy to the drive, all the songs as MP3's so you can listen later without the CD. If you don't set it to record all, then when you're playing a CD, switch to the screen and press the record button. Probably once for each song, or maybe it's once for the CD inserted.
I told it to RECORD all, and I can remove later if I don't like something. It's easier that way.
Shame tho, I haven't hacked it to see if the songs can be ripped back to the CF reader. LOL. I KNOW the CF reader HAS write capability and is smart enough to write back. Someone needs to "tweak" the firmware on the car so we can do things like this. ha
Hope this helps.
#148
Also, set the Mediabox to RECORD all CD's. If you do that, it'll copy to the drive, all the songs as MP3's so you can listen later without the CD. If you don't set it to record all, then when you're playing a CD, switch to the screen and press the record button. Probably once for each song, or maybe it's once for the CD inserted.
I have recorded about 50 albums on my drive so far and it is suppose to hold about 200 albums. Also, if you turn the tuning **** it goes to the next album or previous album so it is easy to go to another album.
#150
Make them Work for your Money
Radiant Silver, Charcoal Int,Sport Pak, Nav Pak, Wheel Locks, Flr Mats, Trnk Org and Splash Grds
I used the Internet for my bidding wars. I had (5) dealers working for the sale. It came down to (2) dealers, the best deal came from the first dealer online but the dealer around the corner came close but no cigar. Funny dealer #2 came to me with a price of 41K out the door. I came back a day later with my laptop in hand with prices and told him that the price was crazy... When I showed him my email quotes he came back with a great offer but still not the best. Anyway I bought my Max from the Biggest Dealership in the Harrisburg, PA area... Online Salesperson Great... Are you ready for this price? $36,500 out the door, all the above options with taxes and title...........Make them work for your money.......
I used the Internet for my bidding wars. I had (5) dealers working for the sale. It came down to (2) dealers, the best deal came from the first dealer online but the dealer around the corner came close but no cigar. Funny dealer #2 came to me with a price of 41K out the door. I came back a day later with my laptop in hand with prices and told him that the price was crazy... When I showed him my email quotes he came back with a great offer but still not the best. Anyway I bought my Max from the Biggest Dealership in the Harrisburg, PA area... Online Salesperson Great... Are you ready for this price? $36,500 out the door, all the above options with taxes and title...........Make them work for your money.......
#151
Haven't played around much with the drive thing. Any way to play back all songs in say a random order? I notice it will also only record "music" CD's, not CD's full of MP3's. hahahahaha...
I have a 4G CF card full of MP3's that works great.
Oh, I tried displaying Video thru the input ports from my Zune. It's not displaying. Anyone tried anything like that yet?
#152
Radiant Silver, Charcoal Int,Sport Pak, Nav Pak, Wheel Locks, Flr Mats, Trnk Org and Splash Grds
I used the Internet for my bidding wars. I had (5) dealers working for the sale. It came down to (2) dealers, the best deal came from the first dealer online but the dealer around the corner came close but no cigar. Funny dealer #2 came to me with a price of 41K out the door. I came back a day later with my laptop in hand with prices and told him that the price was crazy... When I showed him my email quotes he came back with a great offer but still not the best. Anyway I bought my Max from the Biggest Dealership in the Harrisburg, PA area... Online Salesperson Great... Are you ready for this price? $36,500 out the door, all the above options with taxes and title...........Make them work for your money.......
I used the Internet for my bidding wars. I had (5) dealers working for the sale. It came down to (2) dealers, the best deal came from the first dealer online but the dealer around the corner came close but no cigar. Funny dealer #2 came to me with a price of 41K out the door. I came back a day later with my laptop in hand with prices and told him that the price was crazy... When I showed him my email quotes he came back with a great offer but still not the best. Anyway I bought my Max from the Biggest Dealership in the Harrisburg, PA area... Online Salesperson Great... Are you ready for this price? $36,500 out the door, all the above options with taxes and title...........Make them work for your money.......
can you please share your price without Taxes/title and registration. Those fees vary by state, so it is hard for me to grasp the number in CT.
Also please share the name of the dealership, if you dont mind. If it is prohibited, can you please pm me with that info?
thanks,
Max
#153
how to work the CD player/recorder
thanks so much for that information...wish i would have checked by earlier as I was still fiddling with it when i finally decided to call the dealer. Had a nice guy go through the process step by step and we finally figured out that you need to record "all" the cds. This car is so new that the dealers/sales guys dont' really know how to work everything yet either.
Can you tell me how to scroll from album to album? I've been using the down arrow key on the middle **** but that takes forever...you have to go through all the albums track by track. There's got to be an easier way.??
Can you tell me how to scroll from album to album? I've been using the down arrow key on the middle **** but that takes forever...you have to go through all the albums track by track. There's got to be an easier way.??
#154
The easiest way I found is to just turn the tuning **** while the music box is playing. If you press the status button the display shows the album and track that is playing and you can see the name of the album change as you turn the tuning **** on the "radio". That moves from album to album instead of from track to track. I found that much easier than trying to use one of their search functions.
#156
thanks for that....! Turning the center **** very well.
I wish I could figure out (and I will, I just need to set aside an hour or so to sit in the car and read the manual) how to work with the "album" "artist" "date" features.
This car should come with a "CD" to walk you through the set up phase. It would make it easier don't you think?
Also, and this may not be good. My car seems to have a "vibration" at a steady 30-35 miles an hour. Any ideas?
I wish I could figure out (and I will, I just need to set aside an hour or so to sit in the car and read the manual) how to work with the "album" "artist" "date" features.
This car should come with a "CD" to walk you through the set up phase. It would make it easier don't you think?
Also, and this may not be good. My car seems to have a "vibration" at a steady 30-35 miles an hour. Any ideas?
#158
Took my car to the dealer today about my rattles. It turns out that bolts in the center console were loose, allowing it to vibrate and move around. They fixed this and the amount of rattling has been reduced quite a bit. I still hear a few but I haven't had time to investigate further.
I hope bolts are not loose elsewhere on the car
I hope bolts are not loose elsewhere on the car
#159
Funny you should mention that, my last maxima came with a DVD with all the setup stuff demonstrated. Surprised now I think about it, that this doesn't have one. LOL