wsrobert

It's absolutely not a hardware issue. Someone at Nissan might be communicating that but all of these units run the same "OS" within their infotainment systems. CarPlay is simply a software update.

The fact that Hyundai is rolling it out to models as old as 2014 says as much. And is a slap in the face to Nissan owners.

JSROOKS

Well hopefully that really is the case. I am sure they will charge us a minimum of like $150.

suzook

Your wrong. Its not the same hw. I have verified different model # on back of 2017 maxima head unit. Its not coming. Get over it.

im not gay but $20 is $20

2016 Nissan Maxima Platinum
1N4AA6APXGC404146
CONTROLLER ASSY-IT MASTER
Part Number: 259154RA1A
Superseded to 25915-4RA1B



2017 Nissan Maxima Platinum
1N4AA6AP0HC360465
CONTROLLER ASSY-IT MASTER
Part Number: 259154RA1B


They are different part numbers, if you look at the 2016, they have a superseded part number. Seems only way to get it is by replacing the actual controller. If yours happens to fail during warranty period, you may be lucky to end up with Apply CarPlay. Im pretty sure that the hardware is the same, but the different part numbers are because there's different software that's pre-loaded. If there's a superseded part number though, seems that replacing JUST the headunit will work, not all the other nick-nacks. However, it will run you $3,185.50

JSROOKS

That price is absolutely crazy. Well I was going to wait for it and replace the current one. But for over 3K i can build a hell of a system with my current unit. Might as well trade in your 16 for a 17 lol.

im not gay but $20 is $20

Yes, I agree...trading the vehicle in might be a more feasible option than swapping out the unit. Unless you have money to burn, then you can PM me and I will send you my Christmas list

JSROOKS

Haha that is so true wow. But that is how they create supply and demand forcing you to buy it at that or trade in your car which they rather you do.

vmfa531

Might want to hold out until the 2018 or even 2019. Who knows maybe something new on those models. I've heard rumors car manufacturers have a habit of updating their new cars.

raven69david

Apple carplay would be nice but it's not worth trading in a 1 year old vehicle which most would be upside down on to trade-in, assuming you financed, just to get that feature. The only thing I'd want it for is to not worry about updating my maps, but other than that I can swing $120 for a new map update every 2-3 years. Much better than spending another $32k for a new car plus it would also be helpful for me to troubleshoot people's Apple Carplay issues since I work for Apple.

wsrobert

Different part numbers mean nothing. As detailed above. Haha.

There's no hardware limitation. Your dash is literally just a screen that CarPlay displays info on. It's completely powered by the phone. Which is why CarPlay works on 3 year old head units.

hannahkjones

The new head unit alone is over $3,000

slpgh

What's the use case for Carplay? I tried it on the Hondas and was very disappointed.

suzook

The navi is 1000 times better than the garbage stock navi.

raven69david

....and that's pretty much about it. Not worth 3k in my opinion. In 6 years, after updating the navi every 2 years, I will have paid about $360 for the updates. $360 is much cheaper than $3k in my book.

JSROOKS

Someone will eventually come up the a hack or mod so we can get it.

suzook

No hack, just buy all the newer hardware....not worth it. You guys are smoking too much crack if you think its just a sw issue.

wsrobert

Its incredible you somehow continue to believe/go on about carplay and android auto being hardware related. More evidence?

Another manufacturer, Kia, just announced they're updating back to '14. For cars like the Forte, Soul, Optima. Haha. Wanna know how? Via a downloaded software update - performed by the user.

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/19/...-to-17-models/

Its a line of code added to infotainment systems that allows the screen to be used by the phone. Your phone is powering everything - the screen in your dash is literally just that. How is this so hard to grasp?

JSROOKS

I would be down for that. Just depends if Nissan will be as willing to let us if that is the case. I'm not sure who in there right mind would want to spend $3000 plus just for that. So I hope you are right even if it is a fee of sorts I would be ok to pay for the update.

suzook

Lol. Keep dreaming. I have a bridge for sale, interested?

wsrobert

Feel free to rationally explain your thoughts. I don't imagine you to be a developer or work with developers (as I do). It's obvious you don't have even a basic understanding of software/system development (maybe have a read through Apple or Androids developer guide and dig into the APIs a little. That'd be a start.). I imagine you're quite young as your responses indicate.

The only reason Nissan wouldn't provide an update would be to force customers into newer vehicles. Not because its not possible - via a software update.

outzider

It's going to be more than 'a line of code', as there are deeper integrations that are allowed by both of those systems. It is a much bigger undertaking than MirrorLink. There are going to be requirements of the car's audio system (microphone, noise cancelling), as well as resolution requirements on the screen, GPU ability, and touch capability.

That said, I don't think you're wrong -- I sincerely doubt there is a substantial hardware difference between the head unit in the '16 and the '17 to warrant a $3k replacement. If Nissan wanted to, I'm sure we could get 90+% of the functionality with a software update, but I also doubt they want to. Remember, we still don't have any NissanConnect apps, and Nissan has never allowed or done a user software update. Hyundai/Kia do, Ford does, Chrysler does, but Nissan hasn't yet.

suzook

There ARE hardware differences. I stated it multiple times. Same issue happened with GM my link system. Trust me, I know for a fact. Believe what you want. I'm done with this thread.

wsrobert

Haha. This is not GM's "link system". But thanks.

wsrobert

No doubt to all of that. It's absolutely much more than MirrorLink. But the '16 Maximas (and other Nissan models) already have that hardware in place. If a 2014 Kia Soul can be updated to accept CarPlay there's of course absolutely no reason the '16 Maxima can't.

It's just hilarious that this guys insists that its hardware related.

bobbyg

I cant comment on hardware vs software. I can tell you I own the 2015 hyundai genesis and they just posted the download for android/apple car play for owners. I took the navigation chip out and inserted to my computer. Downloaded the file and it was done in about and hour and a half. Then it took another 45 minutes in the car for it to go through the 8 updates.

After only having it for a few weeks its really amazing, The way it works with apple music is the highlight for me.

I went to nissan and tried to lease a 17 and they wanted 10,000 down at 900 a month ?? lol I think im just gonna hold out till the lease offers come even though they are offering me a great deal on a 16 Sl.

tpayne2345

Nissan is just way, way behind in this area, which is sad.. You look at their 16 lineup and how many support Carplay/Android Auto versus competitors, the competitors win. They have no ability to update their current model while others are bringing old systems back to life

Seems like everyone else future proofed their vehicles starting in 2015 and Nissan went all-in with ****ty NissanConnect. As a young person that works in IT and is fully immersed in the tech world, I for one won't be buying Nissan again if they can't keep up with the times.

celticdiablo

I don't even see how this is possible. 10k down and 900 a month would be like leasing a GTR, not a Maxima. The math makes no sense there.

bobbyg

My exact words to the sale reps were that i would go get a Maserati before i ever spend that on a nissan. When he told me the number he knew it was trash. He said there is no leasing program on the car so its lease numbers are trash until the 16's are gone.

mfshehri

KIA is upgrading their old cars now.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/19/...play-upgrades/


Hopefully NISSAN is going to do the same..

raven69david

Email them the link

DC_Dude

What's the big deal with apple car play??

raven69david

Ease of use. No hunting through the menu while you're driving. You can find maps, send messages or do most other basic functions from one menu. Most of us would use it for maps to avoid having to pay for updated maps through Nissan. For me personally, I'd use it for instructional purposes since I work for the company.

DC_Dude

Gotcha. Do you have a 2017 model?

Currentking

It is all about the cost factor on the car that is going to determine the payment along with the residual. if you have a 40k car with a residual of 50% for a 36 month lease you are at $775 a month and that is paying all of your fees up front. that is with a money factor of .002854 which I was quoted for when trying to lease an Audio A4.


Luckily on a 16 maxi SR with midnight package I was quoted a money factor of .00003. zero down got me a payment of $410.

Captjack2001

Look at this: Instructions for update Hyundai 2015 with apple CarPlay and Android.

Why Nissan can not do the same ?

raven69david

That's a Hyundai nut shot to Nissan. Sad. Hyundai got their stuff together and did right by the customer.

aradhakr84

This is sad. If Hyundai is able to do this, then why not Nissan. Come on Nissan, don't fool us into thinking that the upgrade cannot be done. It can be done and our 2016 maxima's system is far more capable for an apple and android auto software. I hope Nissan watches this video.

Kudos to Hyundai, they are indeed trying to satisfy existing customers as well as new customers.

DC_Dude

Has anyone wrote in to Nissan to see if they plan on doing it?

lindros2

Based on my experience with my GT-R, the answer would be a generic run-around. It's not worth it.

Polarisdb

I thought someone did that. I believe Nissan said the part number for the 2017 radio was different than what shipped with the 2016s and that the 2016 hardware couldn't support it via firmware upgrade.