8th Generation Maxima (2016-) Let's see what Nissan has to offer on the 8th generation Maxima

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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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I thought someone did that. I believe Nissan said the part number for the 2017 radio was different than what shipped with the 2016s and that the 2016 hardware couldn't support it via firmware upgrade.
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Thank you for contacting Nissan North America regarding your concern with your 2016 Nissan Maxima. We apologize for any inconvenience this situation may have caused you.

In reference to your inquiry, there is no upgrade available at this time. Although the IT system look similar to past model years the upgrade to CarPlay is more than just a firmware update.

The upgrade would require:
1. New Head Unit
2. New Map Lamp with HD microphone
3. New USB port
4. Several WIRING Harnesses to accommodate new H/U, USB and HD microphone


Be advised that a review of our system indicates the vehicle with the Vehicle Identification Number listed above is involved in the campaign as follows:

2013-16 - Maxima, Altima, Rogue, Murano OCS Reprogram

Please contact your Nissan Dealer for an appointment to have the campaign repairs performed on your vehicle. These repairs are free of charge to you.
2016 Nissan Maxima Platinum
1N4AA6APXGC404146
CONTROLLER ASSY-IT MASTER
Part Number: 259154RA1A
Superseded to 25915-4RA1B



2017 Nissan Maxima Platinum
1N4AA6AP0HC360465
CONTROLLER ASSY-IT MASTER
Part Number: 259154RA1B


They are different part numbers, if you look at the 2016, they have a superseded part number. Seems only way to get it is by replacing the actual controller. If yours happens to fail during warranty period, you may be lucky to end up with Apply CarPlay. Im pretty sure that the hardware is the same, but the different part numbers are because there's different software that's pre-loaded. If there's a superseded part number though, seems that replacing JUST the headunit will work, not all the other nick-nacks. However, it will run you $3,185.50

Here you go.

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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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Wow! How many times do I need to tell EVERYONE, NO APPLE CAR PLAY for 2016's. Its different HW. Get over it, or get a 2017.
Old Aug 16, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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Wow! How many times do I need to tell EVERYONE, NO APPLE CAR PLAY for 2016's. Its different HW. Get over it, or get a 2017.
I think everyone gets the point -- it's not going to happen. I think what people are pissed about is that it shouldn't have been that way. Nissan wants to have the best experience possible, which I understand, but as many Hyundai and Kia owners will tell you, good enough is good enough.

Frankly, we all knew it when we realized that Nissan wasn't going to bother delivering applications for our version of NissanConnect, which doesn't even require a head unit firmware upgrade. As much as I love this car, the auto market is going another direction when it comes to how they work with technology, and I don't see myself buying another Nissan after this one.
Old Aug 16, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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I think everyone gets the point -- it's not going to happen. I think what people are pissed about is that it shouldn't have been that way. Nissan wants to have the best experience possible, which I understand, but as many Hyundai and Kia owners will tell you, good enough is good enough.

Frankly, we all knew it when we realized that Nissan wasn't going to bother delivering applications for our version of NissanConnect, which doesn't even require a head unit firmware upgrade. As much as I love this car, the auto market is going another direction when it comes to how they work with technology, and I don't see myself buying another Nissan after this one.
Then stay away from Honda/Acura. They're worse.
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 12:14 AM
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Anyone know if we could make a class action lawsuit against Nissan. Seems that they knew they were going to screw us 2016 owners since they weren't ready and the our nissan connect with no updates or features. Any attorneys on the forum???
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 03:39 AM
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Anyone know if we could make a class action lawsuit against Nissan. Seems that they knew they were going to screw us 2016 owners since they weren't ready and the our nissan connect with no updates or features. Any attorneys on the forum???
I'm disappointed as much as the next guy but how do you sue someone into submission? That is part of the problem with this world. I didn't know it was a "right" to have apple carplay in our cars. Nissan doesn't owe us CarPlay. If they owe us anything it would be a Nismo Maxi or at least more HP
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 05:30 AM
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Anyone know if we could make a class action lawsuit against Nissan. Seems that they knew they were going to screw us 2016 owners since they weren't ready and the our nissan connect with no updates or features. Any attorneys on the forum???
Dude this is the funniest comment I've seen in a while.

If you talk to an attorney, please record it and post it.

I'd love to know the grounds for a class action.
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 05:46 AM
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Dude this is the funniest comment I've seen in a while.

If you talk to an attorney, please record it and post it.

I'd love to know the grounds for a class action.
LOL, yeah its pretty ridiculous! People that want it have 2 options, pay to have the headunits swapped out or get over it.

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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 05:59 AM
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LOL, yeah its pretty ridiculous! People that want it have 2 options, pay to have the headunits swapped out or get over it.
What is the big deal with CarPlay?

I get that the navigation isn't "Tesla-like". Okay.

But damn - I've owned a number of permutations of Nissan and other navis, and the Nissan/Infiniti flavor is one of the most usable. The current-gen has some quirks - my car was in for lagging and phone goofiness - but in general, it's leaps and bounds better than my 2011 BMW 535i (disclaimer - BMW cleaned it up with new hardware and software by the time the late-2013 model year cars came out).

If you want to file a class action, go after Toyota/Lexus. Their stuff is utter crap.
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 02:30 PM
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What is the big deal with CarPlay?
For me, I don't care about CarPlay as much as I care about Android Auto, but zooming out a bit to 'connected devices':

1) It'd be nice to use streaming radio services right on the display and/or integrated with voice so I don't have to screw with my phone

2) Navigation forever. If I had the nav in my wife's Chrysler UConnect system, I'd be less ticked, but the nav is annoying in this car, and the traffic calculation is terrible.
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lindros2
Dude this is the funniest comment I've seen in a while.

If you talk to an attorney, please record it and post it.

I'd love to know the grounds for a class action.
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...i-intouch-app/

I brought it up because I saw this a while back. Infiniti/Nissan was sued over their Infiniti In Touch app that never worked or had promised features. Same or sound just like Nissan Connect? I dont know how class action suits go, so was hoping someone might know or is an attorney on here.

So FU
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximum808
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...i-intouch-app/

I brought it up because I saw this a while back. Infiniti/Nissan was sued over their Infiniti In Touch app that never worked or had promised features. Same or sound just like Nissan Connect? I dont know how class action suits go, so was hoping someone might know or is an attorney on here.

So FU
Actually it's quite different! If the car was promised with a certain feature and it was purchased on the pretense of that particular feature then yes they can be sued for "false advertising" or not delivering said goods but This is not even close to Apple CarPlay not being offered for a 2016.

So back at ya.....:baw ling:
Old Aug 30, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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I wouldn't mind having Carplay, but not enough to pay the premium for a 2017 (I just bought a leftover 2016 because it was much cheaper than buying a similarly equipped 2017). It would be nice if I could actually send a text via bluetooth with my iPhone though. Even having a button on the steering wheel that I could use to enable Siri would be OK.
Old Aug 31, 2016 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximum808
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...i-intouch-app/

I brought it up because I saw this a while back. Infiniti/Nissan was sued over their Infiniti In Touch app that never worked or had promised features. Same or sound just like Nissan Connect? I dont know how class action suits go, so was hoping someone might know or is an attorney on here.

So FU
F Me? Dude - first of all, not appropriate.

Second of all - you're way off base even thinking that a 2016 model year car "should" have features on a 2017.

Go sue Nissan. Tell us how that works out.
Old Aug 31, 2016 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarisdb
I wouldn't mind having Carplay, but not enough to pay the premium for a 2017 (I just bought a leftover 2016 because it was much cheaper than buying a similarly equipped 2017). It would be nice if I could actually send a text via bluetooth with my iPhone though. Even having a button on the steering wheel that I could use to enable Siri would be OK.
How about just saying "Hey Siri"

- iPhone 5s/6 = plugged in
- iPhone 6s = doesn't require to be charging
Old Aug 31, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximum808
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...i-intouch-app/

I brought it up because I saw this a while back. Infiniti/Nissan was sued over their Infiniti In Touch app that never worked or had promised features. Same or sound just like Nissan Connect? I dont know how class action suits go, so was hoping someone might know or is an attorney on here.

So FU
No need for that language here. Consider this your first and only warning.
Old Aug 31, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lindros2
How about just saying "Hey Siri"

- iPhone 5s/6 = plugged in
- iPhone 6s = doesn't require to be charging
Unfortunately, the microphone that Siri uses on my iPhone 6 hasn't worked for about a year. Siri works using bluetooth, but my phone won't let me enable the "Allow Hey Siri" option.
Old Sep 1, 2016 | 06:35 AM
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Unfortunately, the microphone that Siri uses on my iPhone 6 hasn't worked for about a year. Siri works using bluetooth, but my phone won't let me enable the "Allow Hey Siri" option.
just hold the home button down.

That's actually what I do.
Old Sep 1, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lindros2
just hold the home button down.

That's actually what I do.
Yeah, that's the only way Siri works with my phone (as long as I'm using a bluetooth microphone).
Old Sep 6, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Not a chance

They cannot even be bothered to add more than the pathetic Google search app. No Pandora, no iHeart radio, etc.

Those were actually ADVERTISED to come with the car. 1 year later, no dice. We passed on getting the new armada due to this bait and switch marketing nonsense.
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 10:58 PM
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This was actually promised when the vehicle first came out back in May 2015, even dealers told me that Apple CarPlay would be done via software update. I have an email from them stating android auto would be added also, but more than anything I fought with them about Nissan Connect and their answer is the generic, your phone already has all the apps and the only necessity was the Google Search. Makes no sense since when I went to Vegas I rented a 2015 Altima 3.5 and the nissan Connect on it had four times the apps the newer maxima had.

Nissan does suck major when it comes to updating their infotainment and so far I do know they are two versions of the 2016 Maxima's which do have different map versions the famous A and B and you can reset the Heads up via the maintenance hack, but even then the only last resort we for the 2016 owners have is wait for a hack or mod for it, which so far everyone is mute on it.

Thank goodness I do lease and do plan on getting another lease in another two years God willingly I hope.

But I went all the way up emailing everyone involved with nissan connect and maxima's designers with zero answers. I know why they don't update their software, but I am more pissed that Nissan is so dependent on sirius, even if you get the wifi adapter for the car it still sucks or so I have heard. It is a shame since the heads up display and the nav are meant to be used boldy with this design.

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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:07 AM
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I purchased a 2017 Maxima 2 days ago. My car did not come with Apple CarPlay installed. It's not on the screen, not in settings like this video shows, and I just get "USB device connected" when I connect the phone to USB 1.


The dealer does not know what the issue is.

Do any forum members know what could be happening? Apple CarPlay is one of the main reasons I purchased the vehicle.
Old Feb 9, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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I purchased a 2017 Maxima 2 days ago. My car did not come with Apple CarPlay installed. It's not on the screen, not in settings like this video shows, and I just get "USB device connected" when I connect the phone to USB 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMm4LpsI7qA

The dealer does not know what the issue is.

Do any forum members know what could be happening? Apple CarPlay is one of the main reasons I purchased the vehicle.
Interesting info for the group: The reason its not working is that the SD card they gave me was for a 2016 Maxima rather than my car (a 2017 Maxima). They are ordering me a new SD card (back-ordered unfortunately), but that sheds some light on where Apple CarPlay lives: the SD card. Those of you that have 2016 models, you may try a 2017 SD card and see if CarPlay shows up on your screen...
Old Feb 9, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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Interesting info for the group: The reason its not working is that the SD card they gave me was for a 2016 Maxima rather than my car (a 2017 Maxima). They are ordering me a new SD card (back-ordered unfortunately), but that sheds some light on where Apple CarPlay lives: the SD card. Those of you that have 2016 models, you may try a 2017 SD card and see if CarPlay shows up on your screen...
Well, that's additional interesting confirmation. Explains why the head unit part number didn't change from the latter part of the 2016 models to the 2017 models. It's too bad one needs access codes to unlock a new SD card. Maybe I need to go play with an image of an sd card.
Old Feb 15, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ewellnitz
Interesting info for the group: The reason its not working is that the SD card they gave me was for a 2016 Maxima rather than my car (a 2017 Maxima). They are ordering me a new SD card (back-ordered unfortunately), but that sheds some light on where Apple CarPlay lives: the SD card. Those of you that have 2016 models, you may try a 2017 SD card and see if CarPlay shows up on your screen...
Please see if you can dump the files and we can compare.
Although, I have an android phone.
LMAO at my first post....

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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:29 PM
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Please see if you can dump the files and we can compare.
Although, I have an android phone.
LMAO at my first post....
Yeah a dump of a 2017 Maxima SD card would be nice
Old Feb 22, 2017 | 03:06 PM
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Interesting info for the group: The reason its not working is that the SD card they gave me was for a 2016 Maxima rather than my car (a 2017 Maxima). They are ordering me a new SD card (back-ordered unfortunately), but that sheds some light on where Apple CarPlay lives: the SD card. Those of you that have 2016 models, you may try a 2017 SD card and see if CarPlay shows up on your screen...
Somehow, I highly doubt it. I think you have a case of a clueless dealer-itus. The car's nav system is married to an sd card, you can't just take another card, insert it and have it work. IIRC, new card comes with activation code.

Are you sure you got 2017 model?
Couple of ways to verify it: under the on the inside surface of the hood, there should be a label about emission control. Check it that it says MY2017.
Another way would be to put your vin number into a web site that does vin decoding.
Also, kind of obvious, but you need to be using an iPhone that supports carplay (iPhone 5 and newer), and car play needs to be not restricted on the phone.

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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Does anyone know of a dock that is made for and can be installed in the bottom of the phone slot in the phone compartment so you can plug the phone in without messing with the cable? Long shot, I know.

Thanks.
Old Mar 10, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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Does anyone know of a dock that is made for and can be installed in the bottom of the phone slot in the phone compartment so you can plug the phone in without messing with the cable? Long shot, I know.

Thanks.
One doesnt exist YET, but I can design and manufacture one. Would likely be around $50+shipping. Would anyone be interested?
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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2017 SD Card in 2016 Maxima

Has anyone tried this SD card method to see if it produces any results to get carplay in the 16 maxima? If it is tied to the SD card there would have to be a way to make it work I would think.
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 12:01 PM
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Has anyone tried this SD card method to see if it produces any results to get carplay in the 16 maxima? If it is tied to the SD card there would have to be a way to make it work I would think.
I very very highly doubt that would work.
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 12:11 PM
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I very very highly doubt that would work.

You are probably correct, I guess I am just curious as to why though and why there couldn't be a way around it if it simply a software update on an SD card? (According to posts from above)
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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You are probably correct, I guess I am just curious as to why though and why there couldn't be a way around it if it simply a software update on an SD card? (According to posts from above)
I agree, there SHOULD be. But it sounds like Nissan has made a business decision to not allow updating their nav systems - I dont know of any Nissan model that has received any meaningful updates after release. That is the great thing about Carplay though. If you have it, you dont need to rely on Nissan for updates, the updates come as new iOS updates.
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Okay, so after some more digging it looks like each SD card is married to a specific head unit. So, while this is far above my abilities, it looks like this could be achieved by tapping into an SD card and marrying it to the head unit/VIN number associated with your 16 maxima, and then I would imagine it would update to unlock all of the features accessible on that SD card (i.e. carplay). Again, would require wayyyy more skills than I have, but doesn't appear impossible.
Old Apr 20, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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Okay, so after some more digging it looks like each SD card is married to a specific head unit. So, while this is far above my abilities, it looks like this could be achieved by tapping into an SD card and marrying it to the head unit/VIN number associated with your 16 maxima, and then I would imagine it would update to unlock all of the features accessible on that SD card (i.e. carplay). Again, would require wayyyy more skills than I have, but doesn't appear impossible.

I don't think you understand. The firmware that runs the device does NOT live on the SD card. it lives in the memory of the headunit. Updating the SD card will do nothing to help here. The SD card only holds the maps used by the nav system. CarPlay is not stored here.
Old Apr 21, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jgilbs
I don't think you understand. The firmware that runs the device does NOT live on the SD card. it lives in the memory of the headunit. Updating the SD card will do nothing to help here. The SD card only holds the maps used by the nav system. CarPlay is not stored here.
No idea about Nissan, but when you order a Hyundai map/firmware update from Mapnsoft the "map update" on the SD card also has updated firmware on it used to flash the head unit.
Old Apr 25, 2017 | 01:17 PM
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wow this is still going on? smh
Old Apr 26, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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I don't think you understand. The firmware that runs the device does NOT live on the SD card. it lives in the memory of the headunit. Updating the SD card will do nothing to help here. The SD card only holds the maps used by the nav system. CarPlay is not stored here.
Er, sorta. The SD card provided can also store a copy of the firmware. When inserting the SD card and passing the identification check, the head unit will prompt the user to update the firmware if the card software is newer than the head unit. I have never actually seen this in action.
Old Jun 6, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by braun419
Thank you for contacting Nissan North America regarding your concern with your 2016 Nissan Maxima. We apologize for any inconvenience this situation may have caused you.

In reference to your inquiry, there is no upgrade available at this time. Although the IT system look similar to past model years the upgrade to CarPlay is more than just a firmware update.

The upgrade would require:
1. New Head Unit
2. New Map Lamp with HD microphone
3. New USB port
4. Several WIRING Harnesses to accommodate new H/U, USB and HD microphone


Be advised that a review of our system indicates the vehicle with the Vehicle Identification Number listed above is involved in the campaign as follows:

2013-16 - Maxima, Altima, Rogue, Murano OCS Reprogram

Please contact your Nissan Dealer for an appointment to have the campaign repairs performed on your vehicle. These repairs are free of charge to you.
YOU DO KNOW THAT THIS IS 100% A LOAD OF BULL SH*T, RIGHT? IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE THAN A SIMPLE TELEMATICS SOFTWARE UPDATE. PERIOD.
Old Jun 6, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by slpgh
what's the use case for carplay? I tried it on the hondas and was very disappointed.
also text messaging can work both ways; not just incoming as it does with iphones using nissan's nav software



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