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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 06:08 AM
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Few things-
They hold water
The are a dirt magnet and hold a lot of it
They Sag over time, some fall out.
Snow, ice stick to them.

If you live in a very dry climate, I am sure they would be fine. I do not like them. When I first got my car removed them and undercoated behind them for rust protection due to the moisture retention. I out them back on when I was done and it dried.
I see why you hate them, but for my 12 yr. old Altima I never noticed a propensity to rust due to moisture and dirt retention, but yeah, snow and ice does seem to stick to them but I can knock that off with the end of my ice scraper, but you know that frozen slush seems to stick to the rest of the car like like glue too. I wonder if the Koreans (Kia, etc.) use the same material. Seems like they copy the Japanese build and styling techniques a bit; maybe visa versa.
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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When the Ice and slush build up, it pulls them down and they sag
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 10:07 AM
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When the Ice and slush build up, it pulls them down and they sag
I've never had that problem here in Ohio.

Have we hijacked this thread?
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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I have had the material in the wheel wells of least 2, if not 3 Maximas. Put 80K on the 1st two, 53+ on my '16.

I live in the heart of the midwest and have never experienced any sagging. A pain in the hiney when it builds up and then starts to rub, especially after freezing.
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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I have had the material in the wheel wells of least 2, if not 3 Maximas. Put 80K on the 1st two, 53+ on my '16.

I live in the heart of the midwest and have never experienced any sagging. A pain in the hiney when it builds up and then starts to rub, especially after freezing.
Lots of complaints on the Altimas. Probably attached a little better on the flagship...at least it should be...Everything on the altima is cheap

Except the VQ
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 03:14 PM
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When the Ice and slush build up, it pulls them down and they sag
Hey, that's just what my snow skiing wife says.
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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hey, that's just what my snow skiing wife says.
lmao!!
Old Jan 15, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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"A quiet car dosn't need noise cancellation" That comment got me to thinking about what is quiet ? Around 60 db is a normal spoken conversation
In the past I have always added sound abatement to the car floors and doors with great results. My Honda and Acuras were road noisy! Our 2016 Maxima had some Fat Mat added in the trunk and under the rear seat with great results. Nissan is saying the new refined 2019 Max has thicker glass (acoustical) so I'm wondering if they added some insulation as well? Each car does need some help to close out the road noise we are subjected to. If Hyundia addresses this it would be a plus.
Foam in the tires.
Old May 16, 2019 | 08:41 AM
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OMG I just stumbled across this thread, and I can't believe how vehemently people are defending Maximas vs the G70. The G70 is a full on luxury sport sedan, where the Maxima is a regular consumer level car. The G70 has loads of power with a twin turbo V6, crazy handling with AWD and factory Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires, factory Brembos, etc. etc. I drove a 2003 Maxima for close to 17 years, and while it is a cool car, it in no way compared to the driving prowess of the G70 that I picked up about a month ago. The G70 has received more compliments in one month of ownership than my Maxima got in 16+ years. I haven't driven the newer Maximas, as I have no interest in another FWD car, let alone one with a CVT transmission, so I can't directly compare that way, but some of you in this thread seriously need to give your head a shake.

So most them come from Hyundai dealerships, I can't see how people who drive Nissans can be brand snobs. Am I missing something here? In Canada at least, I get five years of concierge service for my G70, where they pick up the car from me and drop me off a loaner each time I need servicing, so I never need to set foot in a dealership for five years.
Old May 16, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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<< I drove a 2003 Maxima for close to 17 years, and while it is a cool car, it in no way compared to the driving prowess of the G70 that I picked up about a month ago. >>

Can you try to grasp how utterly ridiculous your comparison is? Logic doesn't appear to be your forte.
Hint: try driving a slightly newer Maxima. Just saying. To be fair, I have not yet driven a G70 so I can't comment - but actually that is why I don't comment or compare.
Old May 16, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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OMG I just stumbled across this thread, and I can't believe how vehemently people are defending Maximas vs the G70. The G70 is a full on luxury sport sedan, where the Maxima is a regular consumer level car. The G70 has loads of power with a twin turbo V6, crazy handling with AWD and factory Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires, factory Brembos, etc. etc. I drove a 2003 Maxima for close to 17 years, and while it is a cool car, it in no way compared to the driving prowess of the G70 that I picked up about a month ago. The G70 has received more compliments in one month of ownership than my Maxima got in 16+ years. I haven't driven the newer Maximas, as I have no interest in another FWD car, let alone one with a CVT transmission, so I can't directly compare that way, but some of you in this thread seriously need to give your head a shake.

So most them come from Hyundai dealerships, I can't see how people who drive Nissans can be brand snobs. Am I missing something here? In Canada at least, I get five years of concierge service for my G70, where they pick up the car from me and drop me off a loaner each time I need servicing, so I never need to set foot in a dealership for five years.
More butter on my popcorn please. Oh, and a large soft drink 'cause this is going to be fun.
Old May 16, 2019 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lionel2013
<< I drove a 2003 Maxima for close to 17 years, and while it is a cool car, it in no way compared to the driving prowess of the G70 that I picked up about a month ago. >>

Can you try to grasp how utterly ridiculous your comparison is? Logic doesn't appear to be your forte.
Hint: try driving a slightly newer Maxima. Just saying. To be fair, I have not yet driven a G70 so I can't comment - but actually that is why I don't comment or compare.
I've actually driven a G70, unlike most who are commenting here, plus I am a long term Maxima owner, so I would argue I'm actually one of the more qualified forum members to comment in this thread. The Maxima I owned falls into exactly the same category that the current one does, entry level luxury sporty family sedan. Back in 2003, it had a comparable level of luxury features for the time as the current Maxima does nowadays. If you squint really hard, you could almost imagine that it was a proper sports sedan, just like the current Maxima is as well. I've read through tons of articles and watched plenty of review videos on both the current Maxima, and the G70, and they don't really even compete in the same category, so the comparison in the first place is totally apples and oranges. One is a true luxury sport sedan, the other is a sporty luxury family sedan. Both are very nice cars, I really like the interior of the current Maximas as I've sat in one a few times at a local dealership. The G70 isn't perfect by any means, and would fall short for a lot of people in the space department; it doesn't have a very big trunk, and rear leg room behind taller drivers is lacking as well. Thankfully I'm short, my wife is short, and my daughter is always going to be short as well, so that won't be an issue for my family. Where it really counts for me is the actual driving experience, and what one is after. If you want a screaming sport sedan that's still super comfortable with nice quiet interior, the G70 is the easy winner. If you are more after interior space, better fuel economy, and spending a bit less, than the Maxima is a better choice.

It was kind of an odd comparison, better comparisons for the Maxima are cars like the Accord for instance. For me it's an easy choice though between the two. The G70 competes with manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, etc. The amount of features and peformance you get from a G70 would cost 10-15000 from the German brands, so it is actually an amazing value proposition. Hyundai is generally known nowadays to be a very reliable brand as well. I am amazed that I only paid about $10000 more for the G70 compared to what my Maxima costs, and that holds true with the current Maxima as well, only about $10000 price difference between top trim levels here in Canada.
Old May 16, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by compyelc4
More butter on my popcorn please. Oh, and a large soft drink 'cause this is going to be fun.
Lol, I know that I've opened up a huge can of worms here. I get that people tend to love their cars, and will defend them to the death as if the car was a family member or something. It should make for an interesting discussion though. I figured that having a G70 owner would provide an interesting counterpoint to a mostly one sided discussion.
Old May 16, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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<<It was kind of an odd comparison, better comparisons for the Maxima are cars like the Accord for instance. For me it's an easy choice though between the two. The G70 competes with manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, etc.>>

You hit the nail on the head. Therein lies the problem, and we see this kind of flawed comparison all the time on this forum. Maxim and G70 are in two different car classes. Each on is very goon in its own class. End of story.

PS: Or if you really want to compare, compare the two cars from the same generation, not a 2003 to a 2018 or 19. That's just silly.
Old May 16, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lionel2013
<<It was kind of an odd comparison, better comparisons for the Maxima are cars like the Accord for instance. For me it's an easy choice though between the two. The G70 competes with manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, etc.>>

You hit the nail on the head. Therein lies the problem, and we see this kind of flawed comparison all the time on this forum. Maxim and G70 are in two different car classes. Each on is very goon in its own class. End of story.

PS: Or if you really want to compare, compare the two cars from the same generation, not a 2003 to a 2018 or 19. That's just silly.
Point well taken, comparing cars directly that are like 17 years apart is a bit silly. But what I find interesting is how the Maxima has remained in the same category of car for all of these years, it pretty much sits in the same kind of space now compared to like 20 years ago. I was wishing for many years that Nissan would put out a Nismo edition Maxima or something of that sort. I totally would have bought one of those. Move away from FWD, ditch the CVT for something else, tuned from the factory, etc. etc. I would have gladly snatched up one of those.
Old May 16, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Well it is Maxima.org, we're gonna b a bit biased. Whaddaya expect.

They can't really be compared on their "sports car" merits, g70 has got that in the bag. Overall value for the money... Maxima still has quite a lot goin for it

Maxima has always been about getting lots of features, decent performance, without having to go for the luxury badge
Old May 16, 2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishlet
Well it is Maxima.org, we're gonna b a bit biased. Whaddaya expect.

They can't really be compared on their "sports car" merits, g70 has got that in the bag. Overall value for the money... Maxima still has quite a lot goin for it

Maxima has always been about getting lots of features, decent performance, without having to go for the luxury badge
The value for the money was one of the things that attracted me to the Maxima in the first place. At the time of purchase (I know I'm going years back, but it's at least semi relevant, I promise), a comparably equipped Acura CL Type S with similar performance numbers costed at least $5000 more. My thinking has changed a little bit now though, as I have greater financial means than I did all of those years ago. For five to ten thousand dollars more, you step up into a whole new category of car. For the longest time I was intending to get an Infiniti Q50, but as I got closer to ready to purchase it became apparent that the Q50 was in need of an interior refresh at the very least. I couldn't believe how many complaints about the technology in the car and overall interior quality that I read through. Come to think of it I've driven a Nissan of some sort for most of my adult life as I used to have a little Nissan pickup truck many years ago, so perhaps it was time for something else. If money was no object and I didn't need to actually fit anybody in the back, a Nissan GTR would be my ultimate car however.
Old May 16, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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I had the choice between g70 or a 8th Gen Maxima.. I would go with the G70 no doubt.. 8th Gen Max looks like crap....
Old May 16, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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6 Maximas for me and my 17 is the LAST. I really like the G70, it's on my short list along with a Lexus coupe. There's only one G70 with manual, the 2.0T and Hyundai said that only 4% of all 2.0's sold went off the lot with a manual. If you want one with a manual, better move fast, doubt they'll keep making them much longer.
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6 Maximas for me and my 17 is the LAST. I really like the G70, it's on my short list along with a Lexus coupe. There's only one G70 with manual, the 2.0T and Hyundai said that only 4% of all 2.0's sold went off the lot with a manual. If you want one with a manual, better move fast, doubt they'll keep making them much longer.
Genesis made a really odd choice to forcing buyers to pair the 6 speed manual transmission with the smaller 2.0T engine. I am extremely confused why you would produce an enthusiast version of a car, but force the end user to settle with the far less powerful engine.
Old May 16, 2019 | 01:22 PM
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Agree. The 3.3 would be nice w a manny but it won't happen. Still, a nice car w the auto, I drove the 3.3T and it would embarrass my 8th Gen SR in every category but the backseat size.
Old May 16, 2019 | 04:16 PM
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The value for the money was one of the things that attracted me to the Maxima in the first place. At the time of purchase (I know I'm going years back, but it's at least semi relevant, I promise), a comparably equipped Acura CL Type S with similar performance numbers costed at least $5000 more. My thinking has changed a little bit now though, as I have greater financial means than I did all of those years ago. For five to ten thousand dollars more, you step up into a whole new category of car. For the longest time I was intending to get an Infiniti Q50, but as I got closer to ready to purchase it became apparent that the Q50 was in need of an interior refresh at the very least. I couldn't believe how many complaints about the technology in the car and overall interior quality that I read through. Come to think of it I've driven a Nissan of some sort for most of my adult life as I used to have a little Nissan pickup truck many years ago, so perhaps it was time for something else. If money was no object and I didn't need to actually fit anybody in the back, a Nissan GTR would be my ultimate car however.
+10. I think there should be s sticky on this board, this type of pointless debate comes up over and over again.

Kevin, I bought my 2018 SV for the same reason I bought my 2005 SL, both brand new. I couldn't find a better combo of power, features and comfort for the same price or similar. Sure, I could get more power and/or more features and/or more comfort in another make and model, but not for $27,000 plus fees and taxes, not brand new. Ain't gonna happen, at least not at present. But apparently some people don't get it.
Old Jun 7, 2019 | 03:14 AM
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I did drive the G70 and there is lots to like. The 16 way power seats, 12 way pax seats, projection display etc. As mentioned earlier, my dealer thinks he is doing me a favor by selling me the car! ( At very little discount) Folks it always costs to be 1st!
Conversely there is much I dislike about the G70 (It really is supposed to compare with the Infiniti, but the Maxima is that good!)
The G70 is smaller in the dimensions that matter, narrower, smaller tires (225x19) If you load one of these up-- you are in the low 50's. I also dislike the very visible out of place-clear plastic square behind the G70 grill as well as the Hyundia dash with the "tombstone" GPS interation. Cheap Hyundia all the way! (If you can handle even uglier, there are deals on the G80 that makes that car sell for less) In short, side by side, the 3 year old Maxima design still wins the looks and presence contest. I know, boy racers want to win the 0-60 contest so by all mean s go for it. I can live with 300 hp and 30 plus mpg all on regular!
seriously...wtf were they thinking
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- A quiet car doesn't need noise cancellation.

Try again.
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I love that! Good point!!! LMAO
i actually prefer a louder exhaust note with noise cancellation over a simply quieter car
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