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Old 03-06-2006, 12:14 PM
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350z IM on fwd maxima

Ok this thread is all serious now.

the 350z im is on but not complete. here are some pics.





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Old 03-06-2006, 12:16 PM
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seriously that really nice

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Very nice, I wonder if our hood would clear it? I know we should have more room in the engine bay.
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first off, awesome.

couple questions (that i posted in the other thread):
is there a better location for the air filter?
and would the hood close if you cut off the elbow and welded an adapter plate on? it kinda looks like where the throttle body meets the IM is the highest point, but if you cut off that bend, just curious if the hood will close?
that would keep the intake filter on the driver side without having to run long piping across the front.

i think nismo3112 was going to try this, he lives close by so maybe i can go check it out when he gets around to it.
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What happend to the other threads?
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:18 PM
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Well, you had to get ride of the AC line and the hood doesn't close. I'm not too sure how this is any further than what emax did. Good pics though.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Well, you had to get ride of the AC line and the hood doesn't close. I'm not too sure how this is any further than what emax did. Good pics though.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:52 PM
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So is the manifold actually bolted down in that picture? What about the throttlebody, are you going to use a different one for that or find a way to make the drive-by-wire work?

I'm guessing that's an intake meant for a 350Z, as well?
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:57 PM
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Nice pics... now close the hood and take a pic at grill level or thereabouts from the front and sides so we can get an idea of the height it sticks up...
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
So is the manifold actually bolted down in that picture? What about the throttlebody, are you going to use a different one for that or find a way to make the drive-by-wire work?

I'm guessing that's an intake meant for a 350Z, as well?
He is using DBW.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:02 PM
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ok, still in the dark as to whether you need the Z valve covers.

Also, why would you need to get rid of the AC line?

Would a strut bar fit?

i'd also be interested in seeing the hood clearance issue, you can hack away at the subframe and see how far you get...then use hood spacers, and then if it still doesnt work, use a hood scoop or flare.

This is completely different from what i'm going to do, meaning i'm going to get the 350z IM with spacer, and use the 4th gen throttle cable and MAF.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:08 PM
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Vasily, what TB are you using and what lower IM are you using? Also any other modifications necessary in order to bolt it up to the engine?
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What happened to the thread where you claimed you were "leaving everyone in the dust?"
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
What happened to the thread where you claimed you were "leaving everyone in the dust?"
lol, I guess that thread left him in the dust.
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Take a pic of the hood resting on the IM so we can see how close it is to closing(or how far)
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:14 PM
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About time....now get a DynoJet dyno, so we can see how well this combo performs with the Maxima VQ35 ECU.
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:53 PM
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ok i guess some people dont have a clue about whats going on so i will answer some questions
jeff92se- what do you mean its not any furhter then emax? the car starts and drives. all emax was did was put it on and figured that the hood doesnt close. i am past that.
tatanko- why would i use another tb? and yes the im is bolted down. the car runs and drives.
tavarish-z covers are a yes, strut bar does fit, hood clearence issue is simple. get a scoop. maxs today hacked away at the hood and he is almost done. he removed the subframe of the hood which gave some room for the hood to sit lower but its no where close enough for it to close.
steven88- i am using a everythign 2k2 including the ecu and the e-gas tb. lower is 350z with 350z injectors. direct bolt on.
and a quick note about the other thread, it was deleted on the account of some people getting mad at me and sending me stupid pms.

icey2k1- i am wanting to go to the dyno asap as well
 
Old 03-06-2006, 07:11 PM
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From the pics the TB and TB elbow seem to be the only thing that would hit the hood. It would be nice if we could get someone to make us a custom plenum that is spaced, but has the TB pointing straight out (toward the driver side on FWD) and downward so the hood can close.
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How about the 350z aftermarket plenums? Their design is different...do they have more clearance than the stock 350z IM?

Vasily...your running 350z lowers+injectors? Are the injectors plug and play with the EGI harness+2k2 ecu?
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
tatanko- why would i use another tb? and yes the im is bolted down. the car runs and drives.
I didn't realize you were using a 2k2 ECU. I figured you'd use a different, cable-operated TB to simplify it. Glad to hear the car runs...you driving it around without a hood ATM or what?
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Originally Posted by steven88
How about the 350z aftermarket plenums? Their design is different...do they have more clearance than the stock 350z IM?

Vasily...your running 350z lowers+injectors? Are the injectors plug and play with the EGI harness+2k2 ecu?
yes sir everythibg is plug and play but i still havent reset my ecu.
the highest part is the begining of the elbow and it ends with piping right after the tb. for me it is the coupler instead of the piping. i was going to use a z-tube but decided not to.
here is a pic of the hood.
 
Old 03-06-2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SPiG
From the pics the TB and TB elbow seem to be the only thing that would hit the hood. It would be nice if we could get someone to make us a custom plenum that is spaced, but has the TB pointing straight out (toward the driver side on FWD) and downward so the hood can close.

Someone finally figured it out.



Almost.




What needs to be done here is to custom make a plenum that is actually turned 90º back to stock, but fits on the RWD upper manifold. I think we can make a mold with packing foam (to set the hood clearance) and some fiberglass.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:26 PM
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would the FWD 3.5 fuel rails bolt onto the 350z manifold?

have you tried to fit the FWD valve covers?
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
yes sir everythibg is plug and play but i still havent reset my ecu.
the highest part is the begining of the elbow and it ends with piping right after the tb. for me it is the coupler instead of the piping. i was going to use a z-tube but decided not to.
here is a pic of the hood.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/vsamoylov/DSC04506.jpg[IMG]

If you don't have a way to readjust your static fuel mapping you really should put the 315cc injectors back in. The 335cc injectors will only make your static maps run very rich, which will skew the dyno results.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
would the FWD 3.5 fuel rails bolt onto the 350z manifold?

I believe they will.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:31 PM
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rails are the same but the injectors are different. the fwd valve cover on the drivers side wont work cause of the oil plug.

most people wont do this mod because of the hood clearance issue
 
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If you don't have a way to readjust your static fuel mapping you really should put the 315cc injectors back in. The 335cc injectors will only make your static maps run very rich, which will skew the dyno results.
the ecu will compensate for the bigger injectors
 
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
the ecu will compensate for the bigger injectors
Above 40% throttle it will not. You need to put the 315cc injectors back in, or get a piggyback fuel computer to compensate for the 20cc flow difference while in the static maps.


Here is the thread I posted last year where I installed 390cc injectors.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=434821
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:55 PM
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hurry up and fix your hood up so you can tell us how it pulls
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Old 03-06-2006, 08:01 PM
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like i said somethigns still need to get done like finish the hood, some wiring and the coolant tank as well as the pipe that comes out from the front valve cover. i odnt want to use a breather filter
 
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4th gen/5.5 gen/350z rolled into a nice package.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Someone finally figured it out.



Almost.




What needs to be done here is to custom make a plenum that is actually turned 90º back to stock, but fits on the RWD upper manifold. I think we can make a mold with packing foam (to set the hood clearance) and some fiberglass.

that sounds like a plan. i don't think hood clearance would be an issue if the highest part of the IM was oriented towards the back of the engine like it is in the 350z, as opposed to how it is now, which is w/ the IM slanting up towards the midline.
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i think you'll see alot of nice mods this spring and summer from many people on the forum, including me.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
i think you'll see alot of nice mods this spring and summer from many people on the forum, including me.
and please keep record of parts involved and what needs to be done, so other orgers can follow in your footsteps
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Subscribe and the filter says it has to be longer...
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:54 AM
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I guess you will be ignoring Matt's advice to put the stock injectors back in? I hope you do have some sort of piggyback, im sure that thing will put down nice numbers if it is tuned right...
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I guess you will be ignoring Matt's advice to put the stock injectors back in? I hope you do have some sort of piggyback, im sure that thing will put down nice numbers if it is tuned right...
i am not going to be worrying about 6.3 % flow that the 335cc injectors give over the 315cc injectors. if i were using way bigger injectors then its a different story
 
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I have a complete 350Z intake manifold, all three pieces if anyone wants it let me know, $225, sorry for the hijack!

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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Someone finally figured it out.



Almost.




What needs to be done here is to custom make a plenum that is actually turned 90º back to stock, but fits on the RWD upper manifold. I think we can make a mold with packing foam (to set the hood clearance) and some fiberglass.
I don't think this can be done cause of the way the runners are setup. one bank is going to have more flow than the other. 3 runner are going to get all the air. you will have to turn 90 degrees the whole plenum.
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