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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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still need help............
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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SEARCH damn dude no one is gonna spoon feed you. We have hundreds of 00vi threads with this info.
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You need to turn down your fuel pressure to compensate for the 240cc-->290cc injector increase.
where can I go or what can I do to turn down the fuel pressure to compensate the bigger 5th gen injectors?

Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You have to have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

damn it, can i not just go on the dyno and let them tune it?

Originally Posted by wielkiwac
yes you could, but you need some piggy back unit
are any of the ebay Adjustable FPR good?
lets say this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FUEL-...spagenameZWDVW

Originally Posted by wielkiwac
i dont know if this will hold pressure on high rpms
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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so I either need a piggyback unit(someone suggest some cheap ones please) or an adjustable FPR? please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
are any of the ebay Adjustable FPR good?
lets say this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FUEL-...spagenameZWDVW

Looks like a decent AFPR.
This is the one I just purchased.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT

The same type Tavarish and I believe Sdot82 are using. use one of those to turn town fuel pressure, they cant do that on a dyno. After a propper fuel pressure is set you could worry about tuning it with a piggy back later (like SAFCII or VAFCII . . . check the stickie at the top of the page for more info.)
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Question: What is this?




it was on the same engine where I got the 00VI parts from..... I never found an EGR guide tube unless thats it which it isn't....
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SO, if I use the 5th gen injectors, I need to get the AFPR and a piggy back unit to tune the injectors down? or can I just get the AFPR and tune on a dyno?
whats the difference between tuning on the dyno and with the VAFC-II?

I think we went over this one earlier but ONE LAST TIME: Can I use the 4th gen fuel rail and injectors in the 5th gen lower manifold?
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
SO, if I use the 5th gen injectors, I need to get the AFPR and a piggy back unit to tune the injectors down? or can I just get the AFPR and tune on a dyno?
whats the difference between tuning on the dyno and with the VAFC-II?
You would tune with a VAFC-II on a dyno. the VAFC-II is to make adjustments to fuel, this is best done on a dyno but many have done on the street with a WB02 with data logging capabilites.

I havent heard of anyone needing a AFPR for the 00vi swap. . .

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I think we went over this one earlier but ONE LAST TIME: Can I use the 4th gen fuel rail and injectors in the 5th gen lower manifold?
No.
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
You would tune with a VAFC-II on a dyno. the VAFC-II is to make adjustments to fuel, this is best done on a dyno but many have done on the street with a WB02 with data logging capabilites.

I havent heard of anyone needing a AFPR for the 00vi swap. . .
Interesting, then can you explain to me why some ppl tell me that the 5th gen injectors are bigger than the 4th gen injectors so they would spit more fuel in..... and I *need* an AFPR to bring down the pressure for the 5th gen injectors because they are bigger?.............
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
Question: What is this?
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it was on the same engine where I got the 00VI parts from..... I never found an EGR guide tube unless thats it which it isn't....
That's the EGR block-off plate. That motor didn't have EGR.
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
Interesting, then can you explain to me why some ppl tell me that the 5th gen injectors are bigger than the 4th gen injectors so they would spit more fuel in..... and I *need* an AFPR to bring down the pressure for the 5th gen injectors because they are bigger?.............
who sad you needed it

you should just get everything install, as for fuel mainly getting it tuned but it should start fine.
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
who sad you needed it

you should just get everything install, as for fuel mainly getting it tuned but it should start fine.
Well, I'm happy to let you know that you sir, just saved me $30.

but either way, I should invest in the VAFC-II? correct? or is the SAFC-II better?
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Vafc-ii .
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
Well, I'm happy to let you know that you sir, just saved me $30.

but either way, I should invest in the VAFC-II? correct? or is the SAFC-II better?
Glad to help VAFC-II tune and open the vi
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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I need the Summit RPM switch regardless of the VAFC-II?
The first thing I should get is the RPM switch, install everything, make the car run, THEN get a VAFC-II and tune it?
or can I just get a VAFC-II and it does the same thing as the Summt RPM switch but its much better(with much more options tuning related)?
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
I need the Summit RPM switch regardless of the VAFC-II?
The first thing I should get is the RPM switch, install everything, make the car run, THEN get a VAFC-II and tune it?
or can I just get a VAFC-II and it does the same thing as the Summt RPM switch but its much better(with much more options tuning related)?
vafc-II can work as a rpm switch.
Old Aug 6, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
vafc-II can work as a rpm switch.
Saved me another $42 plus shipping costs, that will go into a VAFC-II.
Man, you are on a roll tonight! haha
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hey guys, do I want a SAFC-II or a VAFC-II? and yes I did read the sticky at the top..... that the VAFC-II offers 1 or 2 more extra features..... but I want to know what you have to say.
Thanks
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VAFC > SAFC for raw tuning.

The 2 features are
1.) More tuning pts.
2.) No need for an RPM switch, since the VAFC can take on that responsibility.
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
VAFC > SAFC for raw tuning.

The 2 features are
1.) More tuning pts.
2.) No need for an RPM switch, since the VAFC can take on that responsibility.
can the SAFC act as an RPM switch?
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Did I say it could?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Did I say it could?
me -->

You're a clever one aren't ya.

ok, so I want the VAFC......
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You're a clever one aren't ya.
Not really.

Just on and
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Does anyone have any wiring diagrams for the VAFC-II, I just bought one without any instructions.
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
Does anyone have any wiring diagrams for the VAFC-II, I just bought one without any instructions.

i think there's a wiring schematic on jime's website.
Old Aug 11, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aznsap
i think there's a wiring schematic on jime's website.
IIRC, he has one but its for a SAFC
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I think this is the 1999 Maxima ECU.

Can anyone be so kind and help me with a wiring diagram?

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Why not use the FSM? You might be the laziest org member known to man.
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I have the FSM. But what am I supposed to look for?
So what you're telling me is that there isn't even one VAFC2 wiring diagram available? I don't want to mess up, especially since I'll be messing around with the ECU....
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SAFC2 is the same as VAFC2 expect for the vtec function.... The manual is on Apexi's website, and then use the fsm to find the wires....
Old Aug 11, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Hey gold tooth. Just use the search function. I think its even in the stickies. When you get the VAFC-II they have wiring instructions. Its not that hard.
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
I have the FSM. But what am I supposed to look for?
So what you're telling me is that there isn't even one VAFC2 wiring diagram available? I don't want to mess up, especially since I'll be messing around with the ECU....
I know you want to get this done and done right and you would like to get straight answers from those who have done it already, but seriously you have to search and read around the answers to you questions are out there in stickies or old threads a page or two back. you can good search 00vi write up and get a bunch of link, take a little time and find an answer to all the questions you may have. check out the 00vi pics ceasor has posted a page back, those pictures can explain more than words sometimes.
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by s0ber
I have my 00VI wired up to my VAFC-II, 100x better than using a analog RPM switch(Summit/Harlan), its WAY more precise, and so simple to change the rpm setting if you need to, on the summit you had like 30 dipswitch settings and a potentialmeter to fine tune it(never could get it working at the right rpm).

The VAFC-II uses one positive VTEC SOLENOID OUTPUT 12+, you wire that up to the 12V+ on your VIAS, and just provide a ground for it and bam your done...

Be sure to get teh VAFC-II not the VAFC because I've heard that some people cant get the VAFC to activate there VIAS (Jmeister I believe)...
so I just need to hook up 2 wires? or is there more?

what does IG Power stand for?
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Jesus Christ man...

VAFC is more than 2 wires.
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well s0ber put it in such a way that I thought it was only 2 wires....

I found this:

Red Wire - IG Power
Orange Wire - IG Power
Green Wire - Engine RPM
Gray Wire - Throttle
Black Wire - Ground
Brown Wire - Ground

What does IG Power stand for?

and wire up the VTEC Solenoid to the VIAS and is that it?
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Ignition power. (powers up when you turn the key)
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I looked at Jime's SAFC diagram, but I dunno where to connect the Orange wire.



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