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Old 03-11-2007 | 03:48 PM
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on my car the old owner re routed the brake lines and abs modulator they feel weaker know dont want to stop when speeding under boost and i have 6th gen calipers and rotors

Old 03-11-2007 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxObesset
on my car the old owner re routed the brake lines and abs modulator they feel weaker know dont want to stop when speeding under boost and i have 6th gen calipers and rotors


Ask jeff... looks like his car. I would have advised against moving the abs module but too late for you.
Old 03-11-2007 | 07:06 PM
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cant i just move it back to stock the braking sucks right now
Old 03-12-2007 | 04:27 AM
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cant i just move it back to stock the braking sucks right now
Well you have to start somewhere and I would recommend checking your pads and rotors make sure everything is in good shape not worn down, then you should look at rebleeding the system incase their is any trapped air...after you have looked at those items then I would consider the ABS module relocation as the culprit.
Old 03-12-2007 | 06:10 PM
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Well you have to start somewhere and I would recommend checking your pads and rotors make sure everything is in good shape not worn down, then you should look at rebleeding the system incase their is any trapped air...after you have looked at those items then I would consider the ABS module relocation as the culprit.


im gonna check the car this week ill let you know how it goes
Old 03-12-2007 | 06:12 PM
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maxobes, can you take sum pics of your 6spd setup for me?
Old 03-13-2007 | 01:34 PM
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ill take some tomm or thurs
Old 03-15-2007 | 07:37 PM
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maxobes, can you take sum pics of your 6spd setup for me?
Hows the swap coming? Done yet?
Old 03-15-2007 | 07:39 PM
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lol not yet. my timing ring is in transit and will come on sat.
Old 03-16-2007 | 04:42 PM
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lol not yet. my timing ring is in transit and will come on sat.
How did the 5peed boot work for you?
Old 03-18-2007 | 02:01 PM
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http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/MAXSE5SPD/

more pics added.

trans is in, gonna start the car tonite to make sure everything is good. finish it up tointe or tomorrow.
Old 03-18-2007 | 03:19 PM
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very nice pics.....i cant wait till you go for your first drive and brag to us about it
Old 03-19-2007 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92
Timing ring bolt pattern is different between 5MT (A32) and 6MT(Z33) and there is also an offset.

A32 is bottom right


Check out the 6MT bolt-on timing ring at the bottom of the ebay ad.

You will need to get one of those timing rings that Travis had made.

http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums...read.aspx#1945
Im wondering if it would be possible to use a a32 auto timiming ring on the 350 flywheel? Are they the same size around?
Old 03-20-2007 | 12:51 PM
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sooooo ive run into a few more problems. the drivers side axle doesnt want to go all the way in, and the pass is in, but the support bracket wont line up.
Old 03-20-2007 | 01:55 PM
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what axels did you use?
Old 03-20-2007 | 02:01 PM
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Well, just looked up some support bracket part numbers for you.

A32 and A33 5MT support brackets = same
2001 AT and all A33B support brackets = same


As for the driver side axle....hmmmm
Old 03-20-2007 | 02:05 PM
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Well, just looked up some support bracket part numbers for you.

A32 and A33 5MT support brackets = same
2001 AT and all A33B support brackets = same


As for the driver side axle....hmmmm
the problem with the brackets the part in the trans where the axle goes in is further to the drivers side on a 6spd than a 5spd. so the bracket sits about an inch or so to the drivers side.

does a drivers side 6spd axle have 2 sets of splines with a step between them?
Old 03-20-2007 | 02:48 PM
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In other words, the axle needs to either be longer or the bracket needs to be moved toward the driver side?
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no, the bracket needs to be moved more towards the pass side. the axle is installed and semi-bolted up, but the bracket is roughly 1" too far to the drivers side.

any idea on the 6spd axle? the fsm only has a pic of the pass axle
Old 03-20-2007 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
no, the bracket needs to be moved more towards the pass side. the axle is installed and semi-bolted up, but the bracket is roughly 1" too far to the drivers side.
You are taking the wrong approach. The distance has not changed from your hub to the bearing bracket mounting point on the engine. What has changed is the distance from the bracket to the transmission. Your inboard shaft is too short.

If your bracket is 1" too far to the left and your axle nut is installed, then you are making up that 1" in your CV joints.
Old 03-20-2007 | 06:16 PM
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eng92, i understand what your saying, but are you basically saying that i need to purchase 6spd axles and hubs?
Old 03-20-2007 | 07:30 PM
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another problem: the car will crank over with the starter noise. i have bored out the cps hole and i had my buddy hold it flush and inline with the cps ring, and i attempted to get the car running. well it would crank and almost catch, but it wouldnt, and there would be a very quiet ticking noise after until i turned the key to off. what could this be? also, the tach would bounce between 1-2k rpms while i attempted to start it.
Old 03-20-2007 | 08:05 PM
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dam Im wondering about the axels too.
Old 03-21-2007 | 07:06 AM
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nismo- what is the pn for the a33b support bracket?
Old 03-21-2007 | 07:22 AM
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maxobsset- can you crawl under your car and take some pics of your axles? where they go into the trans, where the support bracket is, where they meet the hubs. that would be greatly appreciated
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
another problem: the car will crank over with the starter noise. i have bored out the cps hole and i had my buddy hold it flush and inline with the cps ring, and i attempted to get the car running. well it would crank and almost catch, but it wouldnt, and there would be a very quiet ticking noise after until i turned the key to off. what could this be? also, the tach would bounce between 1-2k rpms while i attempted to start it.
Timing is off, way off. You need to adjust it so the sensor and ring are like stock otherwise it wont read right/start.
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so let me get this straight....are you using the 4th gen axles with the 6spd tranny and thats the reason it isnt allowing you to bolt it up properly? im just trying to properly follow wha t is going on between what you have typed and left out
Old 03-21-2007 | 07:32 PM
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kevlo- are you saying the sensor is too close/far from the ring or too much left/right from the ring?

liquid- im using 5spd axles because i was told they will work, which is kinda true. the pass axle will install fine, but its about 1" too short because where the axle goes into the trans is about 1" further to the ds than with 5spd. which also causes the axle support bracket to not line up. the drivers axle should work, i was given the wrong axle so i must get the correct one to confirm this.
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
kevlo- are you saying the sensor is too close/far from the ring or too much left/right from the ring?

Could be both, but it needs to be aligned like stock for it to run properly. I believe in SR20's flywheel thread it has the measurements on how far the ring needs to be.
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The only alignment problem sr20 had was left to right. Perhaps this 3.0 ring has a slightly smaller diameter than the 3.5 ring.
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Well I found out From Tilley that you will have to use both 6 speed axel and you can retain the 4th gen hubs. Also you can use the 5speed carier
You can also use the auto vq30 timing ring and adapt it to the speed wheel instead of having to but travis timming ring. But travis ring is easier but will some work you can just you the auto ring if you have one availble
Old 03-22-2007 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Perhaps this 3.0 ring has a slightly smaller diameter than the 3.5 ring.
Nope, they are identical.
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
maxobsset- can you crawl under your car and take some pics of your axles? where they go into the trans, where the support bracket is, where they meet the hubs. that would be greatly appreciated

ill try and take pics tomorrow when i get my oil changed i know im using the 6 speed axels
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ok thanx....
Old 03-24-2007 | 09:24 PM
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mini-update: i got the 6spd pass axle. tilley said that the 5spd bracket would work. but it was not a direct bolt on for me. i had to grind off some of the bracket. i am not thru grinding it so i cant say that it will work yet. but i know for a fact that 5spd axles wont work. the splined part will go in, but right after the step thicker, it wont go in. 6spd axles will fit in 5spd hubs.

a quick thought, does anyone have a pic of the 6spd axle bracket? or a 3.0 and 3.5 block next to each other? because since tilley said that the 5spd bracket would work, but he hasnt put a 6spd in a car with a 3.5 iirc.
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It's good to finally have a definitive answer as to which axles to use. It was all hearsay until now. Almost there.
Old 03-25-2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
mini-update: i got the 6spd pass axle. tilley said that the 5spd bracket would work. but it was not a direct bolt on for me. i had to grind off some of the bracket. i am not thru grinding it so i cant say that it will work yet. but i know for a fact that 5spd axles wont work. the splined part will go in, but right after the step thicker, it wont go in. 6spd axles will fit in 5spd hubs.

a quick thought, does anyone have a pic of the 6spd axle bracket? or a 3.0 and 3.5 block next to each other? because since tilley said that the 5spd bracket would work, but he hasnt put a 6spd in a car with a 3.5 iirc.
Yeah Tilley told me the 5speed carier and the 6sp was the same but IIRC he has a 3.5 with 6sp in a 4th gen
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
.... does anyone have a pic of the 6spd axle bracket? or a 3.0 and 3.5 block next to each other? ...
Here is a pic of a mated VQ35 and 6-speed trans. Not much of that bracket is visible, but thought it would help.



Here is the axle bracket (from my VQ30) on my VQ35 used with 5-speed VLSD.

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Thanks for the pics!
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mini update- i ordered my 6spd drivers axle from raxles today. it will arrive on thurs. meanwhile, im planning on getting the pass side squared away and getting the car running also.


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