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Development Interest Thread: Anodized/Chrome SSIM/VIAS Removal plate

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Old 01-15-2008 | 10:09 AM
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No finish, just plain brush billet aluminum will work for me. Can't wait to order one of these for my Altima...
This is made out of 6061 Billet Aluminum, which is very corrosion resistant! So this plate should look beautiful for a lifetime!
Old 01-15-2008 | 08:45 PM
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Aaron-do you know if the intake spacers get back some (or maybe all) of the low end torque you'd lose doing the VIAS mod? I am definitely ordering the intake spacers when I get ready to put in new plugs, so might as well do everything at once, right?

More top end power would be nice but I'd hate to lose too much off the bottom end since most of my driving is under 3500 rpm...and the torque sure makes the car fun to drive even when mostly putting around.
Old 01-15-2008 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Aaron-do you know if the intake spacers get back some (or maybe all) of the low end torque you'd lose doing the VIAS mod? I am definitely ordering the intake spacers when I get ready to put in new plugs, so might as well do everything at once, right?

More top end power would be nice but I'd hate to lose too much off the bottom end since most of my driving is under 3500 rpm...and the torque sure makes the car fun to drive even when mostly putting around.
Are you referring to doing the SSIM or the VIAS Removal? Both will lose low end power. It's just the SSIM will make the top end absolutely scream!

Adding spacers to these mods will definitely improve the power below 5K rpm. But will it give you back ALL the low end power that was lost? I can't answer that since I haven't done testing for this. But my guess is, yeah, it would come very close. I can say this by the customers that have done the Kinetix IM along with my spacers. They don't notice a big loss in low end like the people do with just going with the Kinetix IM by itself.
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Where is this plate?!

lol jk. keep me/us posted
Old 01-15-2008 | 09:38 PM
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Where is this plate?!

lol jk. keep me/us posted
I definitely will. I should have an update on Thursday.
Old 01-16-2008 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Aaron-do you know if the intake spacers get back some (or maybe all) of the low end torque you'd lose doing the VIAS mod? I am definitely ordering the intake spacers when I get ready to put in new plugs, so might as well do everything at once, right?

More top end power would be nice but I'd hate to lose too much off the bottom end since most of my driving is under 3500 rpm...and the torque sure makes the car fun to drive even when mostly putting around.
remember, to get the full benefit of the ssim/vias mod, it is best if you have an extended rev limit.
Old 01-16-2008 | 07:10 AM
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Are you referring to doing the SSIM or the VIAS Removal? Both will lose low end power. It's just the SSIM will make the top end absolutely scream!
Probably just the VIAS mod for right now. Just wanting to get a little more ooomph from 5500 to redline if possible without killing the bottom end.
Old 01-16-2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Probably just the VIAS mod for right now. Just wanting to get a little more ooomph from 5500 to redline if possible without killing the bottom end.
You'll get pretty much none of the former and all of the latter. The butterfly valve itself isn't much of a restriction.
Old 01-16-2008 | 09:29 AM
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You'll get pretty much none of the former and all of the latter. The butterfly valve itself isn't much of a restriction.
Many people on the Altima forums have done this and without a doubt get a nice top end power increase. But of course, it's not as drastic as the SSIM.
Old 01-16-2008 | 05:15 PM
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SSIM for the win! We did some before SSIM testing with a friend of mine (who owns an LS2 GTO) and the after results surprised him. I find that funny since he's used to 450+WTQ slamming him into the seat and to have something like a simple P&P and deck removal surprise him. It's a great modification! That's for sure!
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It's Thursday...

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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
It's Thursday...

I should have an update late this afternoon. Don't worry, I guarantee I'm more excited about this project than anybody on this forum!
Old 01-17-2008 | 09:42 AM
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I should have an update late this afternoon. Don't worry, I guarantee I'm more excited about this project than anybody on this forum!
I'm right there with you, and probably more excited on the possible future product you may be doing...
Old 01-17-2008 | 01:24 PM
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just a question everyone do you just grind the shelf from the one side or should you grind the shelf from the vias opening too? And a bump for more information! I cant wait!
Old 01-17-2008 | 01:55 PM
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It's "mid" afternoon...

Old 01-17-2008 | 02:46 PM
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just a question everyone do you just grind the shelf from the one side or should you grind the shelf from the vias opening too? And a bump for more information! I cant wait!
You will have to grind from both sides in order to get it all.
Old 01-17-2008 | 02:58 PM
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Alright! I finally have an update as promised.

Today, I inspected a couple more prototypes. Here is the one I chose to actually produce.





You may have noticed that the finish doesn't look as shiiny. That's because I chose to have it bead blasted to get rid of all the machining marks. This makes the part look MUCH cleaner than before. The minute I saw the part once it was cleaned up, I was blown away!

There is only one problem that I will need to correct before I can produce these plates. In the pictures above, you are looking at a flawless piece without any kind of coating. It's just plain 6061 Billet Aluminum. Since this material has spent hours being tumbled, polished, then blasted, it gives it a very clean mat finish that is prone to scratches. I have chosen to make the finish more durable by having it anodized. This will toughen up the finish considerably and may alter the color slightly. It will also prevent corrosion and oxidation, which isn't a problem with 6061 in NC. But it may be a problem elsewhere.

So, instead of waiting to have another prototype made for my approval, I have vouched to have the first batch made with a clear anodized coating. Yes, this will raise costs slightly, but it will guarantee a cleaner looking part that will be more durable in your engine bay for years to come!

I apologize that I won't be able to go with plain aluminum. But clear anodized will look very similiar. The costs have not been set officially, but right now, the expected cost is around $60.

Thank you for everyone's support.
Old 01-17-2008 | 03:01 PM
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Great Job Aaron!! Looking forward to it.
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That's a clean little ****er and a nice little mod with advertising

If I'm not on your list yet, then you must be a

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!PrjctMax! please stop PW'ing. Thank you.
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Here's one more picture with the Zinc Plated JIS Hex Head Flange Bolts that will be included with the plate:

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amazing! cant wait for them!
Old 01-18-2008 | 09:36 AM
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keep the cost down!!!! dont coat it just sell it like the pic you have of the prototype!!!!!! MORE PEOPLE WILL BY IT!!!! and it looks more factory!!!!


to higher price!!!

If it cost too much more then the ****ty diamond plate one people are going to buy that product even though yours is better!
Old 01-18-2008 | 09:47 AM
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Coated or not, I want one of the 1st batch. cash ready.
Old 01-18-2008 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 05AltimaSER
keep the cost down!!!! dont coat it just sell it like the pic you have of the prototype!!!!!! MORE PEOPLE WILL BY IT!!!! and it looks more factory!!!!


to higher price!!!

If it cost too much more then the ****ty diamond plate one people are going to buy that product even though yours is better!
Aaron...I'll get you on this one and save you some time

"Yeah, it won't be shiny by any means. But doing a clear (aka silver) anodized finish will give it more of a shine than it already has.

Right now, it has a matte SHEEN finish. Sheen is the word. The shine is somewhat similar to the finish of the stock intake manifold. But of course, since it doesn't have casting bumps, it'll look much better."

AND

"That latest part you saw has no anodized finish on it.

Once it has a clear anodized finish, it will not make it shiny like chrome. It might be a tad shinier than in the picture, but don't expect it to be as shiny as the first part you saw a month or two ago.

If you think you want shiny, trust me, you don't! As soon as you see this part in person, you will have to sit down b/c it looks so good! It will look awesome in the VQ35 engine bay! And it won't stand out like if it was chrome finished."
-Aaron92SE-


As you can see, I was wanting a "shinier" (spelling?) piece as well, but there is the explanation right out of the producers mouth...or fingers...

Either way...a cute little logo of NWP > diamond plate that looks like you bought a sheet of it and did it yourself. If you want some NICE bling, then get this...if you want the cheap route w/o lengthened bolts, without instructions on doing the swap, and without the plug, then yeah, go for the Gorilla Diamond Plate cover...
Old 01-18-2008 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 05AltimaSER
keep the cost down!!!! dont coat it just sell it like the pic you have of the prototype!!!!!! MORE PEOPLE WILL BY IT!!!! and it looks more factory!!!!


to higher price!!!

If it cost too much more then the ****ty diamond plate one people are going to buy that product even though yours is better!
I completely understand where you are coming from. But the non-anodized prototype has such a soft finish that you can literally scratch it with your finger nail! Aluminum is very soft, especially when it has been tumbled, blasted, and then polished to a near perfect finish. So coating this part isn't an option since the last thing I want is for a customer to come back and ask me why it scratches so easily or why it turns white after only being on the car for 3 months due to corrosion.

With an anodized finish, it will drastically harden the outside finish which will prevent scratches from being made by something as simple as a rough shop rag. Plus, if the plate starts to look dirty over time, since it's anodized, you will be able to clean it and completely return it to it's original luster. If it was not coated, then the dirt will soak into the bare aluminum finish and change the appearance of it without any hopes of getting the original look back.

Anodizing such a small run is going to cost a lot. I have decided to eat it on the anodizing costs as much as possible. So you guys are not going to have to pay much more than before. The tentative price was only raised from $57 to $60 b/c of the anodizing process.

Also, let me mention that my goal isn't to compete with the diamond plate sold on the other forum. My goal was to make the best block plate anybody has ever seen regardless of costs. I don't mind not selling a bunch of them. I only care about the product being perfect! I know some people are willing to pay for that to have a nice looking VIAS Block Plate on their engine.

But I know there will always be those people on a budget. I'm glad you posted your thoughts on this. I will see how low I can keep the price on making another plate without the NWP Logo, no chamferred edges, and no tumbling, blasting, anodizing, or polishing. I do want to appeal to those on a budget. Thanks.
Old 01-18-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Coated or not, I want one of the 1st batch. cash ready.
Ok. I'll take care of you.

Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Aaron...I'll get you on this one and save you some time
Thank you. For those that read that response you posted, that was a Private Message reply I sent to !PrjctMax! recently. I don't mind it being posted here.
Old 01-18-2008 | 12:06 PM
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im ready for this. As soon as the first batch is ready I need it haha. My Intake Manifold is already waiting at the powder coating place to have this piece and the manifold itself cant wait!
Old 01-18-2008 | 05:01 PM
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I disagree with 05altimaser , i rather pay $50 MORE and have a quality product then save the $50 and have a POS.

Aaron, i hope im already on the list the paypal is READY... thanks for everything youve done for the 3.5 !
Old 01-18-2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NiSmOVQ35
I disagree with 05altimaser , i rather pay $50 MORE and have a quality product then save the $50 and have a POS.

Aaron, i hope im already on the list the paypal is READY... thanks for everything youve done for the 3.5 !
Thank you. I'll definitely post here just as soon as I have a definite release date. It should easily be released before the end of this month.
Old 01-19-2008 | 09:14 PM
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Interested, hopefully can jump on this and the spacers at the same time. Will there be any group package for the VQ35 guys?
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
Interested, hopefully can jump on this and the spacers at the same time. Will there be any group package for the VQ35 guys?
Why...should the VQ30 guys not be included?
Old 01-20-2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Why...should the VQ30 guys not be included?

No, pfft, we're cooler.
Old 01-20-2008 | 09:06 PM
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This is sweet. I'm in!
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Hey aaron , over at nissanclub.com someone was trying to compare your piece to the diamond plate. Might want to set them straight on your quality.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...s-gbjna-6.html
Old 01-21-2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
Interested, hopefully can jump on this and the spacers at the same time. Will there be any group package for the VQ35 guys?
I haven't made that decision quite yet since the price for this block plate is not final. I am taking a hit on costs for this first batch b/c of the insanely high setup costs for this design. But I may try to do something for those that decide to buy both spacers and the plate at the same time besides saving on shipping.

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Hey aaron , over at nissanclub.com someone was trying to compare your piece to the diamond plate. Might want to set them straight on your quality.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...s-gbjna-6.html
Thank you. I'll check it out.
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in for the package deal as you already know! Cant wait!
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im bitting my nails over here !! i need THIS ! LOL
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This product has gone through many changes since the first design. This has postponed things considerably! I really appreciate everyone's support and patience.

Give me about 8-10 more days. Trust me, I am more excited about this than any of you guys! This VIAS Block Plate is BY FAR my most beautiful work yet!

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This VIAS Plate is BY FAR my best work yet!


The IMS are the best!


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