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e85?

Any one running e85 im thinking of converting to e85 so far i know i need a walbro fuel pump 155lph,r35 injectors and isulated fuel lines am i missing anything?? should bump up hp like 30 ish
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e85 kills power iirc...not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by I<3 A32's
iirc??
If I remember correctly FFS.
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If I remember correctly FFS.

FFS?



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FFS?



****en funny ****??
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****en funny ****??


FFS means for ****'s sake

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****en funny ****??


Let's say you did the swap to E85, do you know how to tune for it?
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Let's say you did the swap to E85, do you know how to tune for it?
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Originally Posted by I<3 A32's
Any one running e85 im thinking of converting to e85 so far i know i need a walbro fuel pump 155lph,r35 injectors and isulated fuel lines am i missing anything?? should bump up hp like 30 ish
Send grey99max a PM. He runs E85 and a 200 shot of go go juice (or more).
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Originally Posted by ABIGBRAIN
Send grey99max a PM. He runs E85 and a 200 shot of go go juice (or more).
tnxs man i will do that
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Originally Posted by The Wizard


Let's say you did the swap to E85, do you know how to tune for it?
a bit of r&d.. i got a few buddies that are on e85 ill ask them for pointers
cant be hard
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Originally Posted by I<3 A32's
cant be hard
...THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID...





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That's a small fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by I<3 A32's
a bit of r&d.. i got a few buddies that are on e85 ill ask them for pointers
cant be hard
Lemme help with that. Think of E85 as a substitute for race gas, having a high motor octane and great cooling effect when used with a much-modified engine using one or more power adders, nitrous or blower of some type. It's more forgiving than most race gas, except for C12, C16 or a few other really upper end race fuels. It needs about 30% more volume than gasoline for the same HP. It's around $3.30 /gal compared to +$15.00 /gal for race fuels. You need a larger pump, bigger lines, a larger filter, and larger injectors just to start and drive down the street.

It does NOT create any more HP by itself when running with a normal A/F around 11.5:1 (lambda ~.80). It just uses more fuel. Where it pays off is using a s*it load of nitrous, or a big turbo or a supercharger with elevated boost. You still need much colder plugs and plently of spark. The engine will run cooler and typically have less detonation or pre-ignition than normal gasoline except compared to the upper end race fuels. A lot of turbo cars have switched to E85 and love it.

If you're not running a monster motor and abusing it with super-high compression, nitrous,or tons of boost, save your money. It can be hard to find at pumps, also.

FWIW ...
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Originally Posted by grey99max
If you're not running a monster motor and abusing it with super-high compression, nitrous,or tons of boost, save your money.
That's exactly what I got from that article when reading the pros/cons.
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regular gasoline has 1.5x the energy content of ethanol, thats enough to steer me away from it
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Originally Posted by chrome91
regular gasoline has 1.5x the energy content of ethanol, thats enough to steer me away from it
Are you worried about fuel consumption or making power?
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Are you worried about fuel consumption or making power?
fuel consumption hardly, making power kinda. ethanol kills rubber on older Japanese cars, especially O-rings. i wont even let 10% ethanol gas touch my stuff, only use 91 octane with no ethanol

i just cant see ethanol working out, its already getting phased out because of how uneconomical it is to produce
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Originally Posted by chrome91
i just cant see ethanol working out, its already getting phased out because of how uneconomical it is to produce
But - it's federally mandated, and will be added to most gasolines, and the Feds plan is to raise the minimum ethanol percentage from 10% to 15%. This country already creates many many millions of gallons of ethanol in refineries across the US, obviously 10% of the total of nearly all gasoline used in the US, and the amount consumed will rise by 50% if gas goes from E10 to E15.

I can't find my list of operating refineries right now, but there were over 50 in the US, and we are now buying ethanol from Brazil for mixing with gasoline for our gas pumps. Unless the requirement for E10 is cancelled by the gumment, it's with us forever.

I don't think it's going away soon.



EDIT: I looked up some numbers on ethanol production, and right now there appears to be 216 plants in operation, with a total capacity of 13,910 million gallons annually. Nearly 14 billion gallons production capacity in one year.... well over $31 billion dollars (at $2.25/gal) of product sold in the US of A. Still probably not going away...

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Originally Posted by grey99max
Lemme help with that. Think of E85 as a substitute for race gas, having a high motor octane and great cooling effect when used with a much-modified engine using one or more power adders, nitrous or blower of some type. It's more forgiving than most race gas, except for C12, C16 or a few other really upper end race fuels. It needs about 30% more volume than gasoline for the same HP. It's around $3.30 /gal compared to +$15.00 /gal for race fuels. You need a larger pump, bigger lines, a larger filter, and larger injectors just to start and drive down the street.

It does NOT create any more HP by itself when running with a normal A/F around 11.5:1 (lambda ~.80). It just uses more fuel. Where it pays off is using a s*it load of nitrous, or a big turbo or a supercharger with elevated boost. You still need much colder plugs and plently of spark. The engine will run cooler and typically have less detonation or pre-ignition than normal gasoline except compared to the upper end race fuels. A lot of turbo cars have switched to E85 and love it.

If you're not running a monster motor and abusing it with super-high compression, nitrous,or tons of boost, save your money. It can be hard to find at pumps, also.

FWIW ...
i must build it first then 12.51 then e85 then tnxs
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