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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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If you plan on going 8+ MPH over the limit, a nice radar detector is a MUST HAVE!!!

Mine has saved me MANY times. I also account some of those times to it being a V1... knowing when there were still cops ahead, even when I passed other cops, which I would have thought were the source of radar.

I have been alerted of radar and instant-on traps before it was my cars turn. I had ample time to slow down. Speed traps can be sneaky, and not all of them will be visible to the radar detector "nay sayers". THey can be as alert as they want, coffee, high on crack rock, etc. and STILL not have the vision of a good radar detector.

In the 5.5 years I have owned a V1, I have never gotten a ticket, atleast not when I had the V1 in the car, and turned on.

Yes, you must also pay attention. Yes, it won't save you from everything, but it WILL give you much more insight than the guy who doesn't believe in running one. It is a tool, and when used properly, can really help you avoid trouble. Well worth the price, if you ask me.

Everytime I see somebody make a forum post of how they got caught speeding and a big-*** fine, I always ask if they had a radar detector. Well, you already know what their answer is.

Do the smart thing and get one. Don't listen to the idiots who are against them.
Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
The V1 beats the 8500 by 2-3 miles in rear radar detection because of its second antenna.
2-3 miles? That's kind of pointless, especially from behind. You could have a detector that has a 20 mile range...but why?

RADAR beams are infinite. If a cop stood on a mountain 20 miles away and pointed his RADAR towards town and everyone had 20-mile detectors, then they'd all go off. But at that distance he wouldn't be able to measure anyone's speed. It's silly to place importance on a claim that any detector can beat any other by 2-3 miles. In pretty much any real-world situation, the RADAR beam will be so scattered at that distance it won't matter, unless you use the aforementioned mountain example.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Fernandes
2-3 miles? That's kind of pointless, especially from behind. You could have a detector that has a 20 mile range...but why?

RADAR beams are infinite. If a cop stood on a mountain 20 miles away and pointed his RADAR towards town and everyone had 20-mile detectors, then they'd all go off. But at that distance he wouldn't be able to measure anyone's speed. It's silly to place importance on a claim that any detector can beat any other by 2-3 miles. In pretty much any real-world situation, the RADAR beam will be so scattered at that distance it won't matter, unless you use the aforementioned mountain example.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by orlando00i30
Watever u say Amigo


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You gonna back that up with any actual information or facts?

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Well since u came in here talking all that without actual info, whats there more to say. We can spend 2 more pages talking bout more crap about detectors, but u know wat, even on the web I dont beleive everything they say, cause even Radar Roy and Mike Valentine have a little war of their own. So who it is to beleive. I just bought the V1 cause of the convienece of the arrows since all the top end radars were pretty close in range but none had the arrows exept the V1. If you go into Radar Roys website he will tell u that V1 isnt that great Blah, Bla, Blah but can't u think that Maybe just maybe he has some interest ($$$$) on giving the other radars the TOP scores??(he sells the escort and the bell in his website) Valentine does not have retailers, they sell their own detectors. Why would Radar Roy give the V1 a higher score, So that ppl read his articles and go buy from V1???? Read on the V1's response to Radar Roys accusations! Look man I talked to the owner of M20 extre blinder company, I have that blinder and he told me tha he has in one of his cars a V1 and in the other one a 8500, I dont have both so I dont know, but he said that hes had them together and that theyre both almost the same on range of detection but the V1 annoys him more caause of more falses but he love the arrows on it!
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by orlando00i30
Well since u came in here talking all that without actual info, whats there more to say. We can spend 2 more pages talking bout more crap about detectors, but u know wat, even on the web I dont beleive everything they say, cause even Radar Roy and Mike Valentine have a little war of their own. So who it is to beleive. I just bought the V1 cause of the convienece of the arrows since all the top end radars were pretty close in range but none had the arrows exept the V1. If you go into Radar Roys website he will tell u that V1 isnt that great Blah, Bla, Blah but can't u think that Maybe just maybe he has some interest ($$$$) on giving the other radars the TOP scores??(he sells the escort and the bell in his website) Valentine does not have retailers, they sell their own detectors. Why would Radar Roy give the V1 a higher score, So that ppl read his articles and go buy from V1???? Read on the V1's response to Radar Roys accusations! Look man I talked to the owner of M20 extre blinder company, I have that blinder and he told me tha he has in one of his cars a V1 and in the other one a 8500, I dont have both so I dont know, but he said that hes had them together and that theyre both almost the same on range of detection but the V1 annoys him more caause of more falses but he love the arrows on it!
That's the second time you've dissed me. Both times you haven't provided any evidence that anything I've said wasn't true. In fact, I never dissed your V1. It may be the best detector in the world...I could actually care less which one's better. All I said is that a 2-3 mile difference in rear detection was a worthless comparison basis. You responded with all this talk about you can't believe anyone this or anything that. If you don't believe me, that's one thing...but to say I'm talking BS without any logical explanation or for that matter, any argument at all, is in fact BS. I'll ask again...what was it specifically that I said was BS?

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Well i'll ask u the same thing that u asked me in post 164. U gonna back it up???
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by orlando00i30
Well i'll ask u the same thing that u asked me in post 164. U gonna back it up???
Good lord! Look up the information. At 20 years old, you CAN do that, can't you? Do you know how to articulate your thoughts?

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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i rather have 2-3 miles more of frontal detection more than rear detection. how often do you see police stand outside and aim at people's trunks? by that time, everyone would have slowed down after seeing the police, so doing that will be futile. my $.02
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Fernandes
Good lord! Look up the information. At 20 years old, you CAN do that, can't you? Do you know how to articulate your thoughts?

Tony
If you at least knew how to research you would know wat im talking about!
A mi me gusta el valentine y a ti otro. QUE MAS???
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by orlando00i30
If you at least knew how to research you would know wat im talking about!
A mi me gusta el valentine y a ti otro. QUE MAS???
Uhhh. Okay. I'm done playing.

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Fernandes
2-3 miles? That's kind of pointless, especially from behind. You could have a detector that has a 20 mile range...but why?

RADAR beams are infinite. If a cop stood on a mountain 20 miles away and pointed his RADAR towards town and everyone had 20-mile detectors, then they'd all go off. But at that distance he wouldn't be able to measure anyone's speed. It's silly to place importance on a claim that any detector can beat any other by 2-3 miles. In pretty much any real-world situation, the RADAR beam will be so scattered at that distance it won't matter, unless you use the aforementioned mountain example.

Tony
I got this from a police radar gun site, "With the "same lane" setting that is featured on many of the newer moving radar models, police can even clock vehicles while driving up from behind, creating a growing need for rear facing radar detection for motorists."

The only detector with a rear facing antenna is the V1 because it has the patent for a radar detector with 2 or more antennas inside of it. V1 also has a patent for arrows on its display so you will not see another radar detector with arrows on its display. Radar detectors with only 1 antenna rely on the radar bouncing off of things so that you can get a reading on it. The V1 doesn't need it to bounce because it has a rear facing antenna.

Cops merge on interstates behind you and shoot radar all the time. If you have the Passport 8500, you will have less than 1/2 mile of rear detection with the 8500 just beeping. If you have the V1, you will pick up radar 3 miles away and have an arrow pointing to it. Which one sounds better??

Pretend the cop is a sniper and you have one eye (antenna) and you can't hear which direction the bullet (radar) is coming from, this is the Passport 8500. You will only hear a beep as you look around like an idiot.

Pretend the cop is a sniper and you have two eyes (antennas) and you know which direction the worst threat is with a flashing arrow and how to respond to that threat in the appropriate manner, this is the Valentine One.

Which one sounds better now?

ANSWER: VALENTINE ONE
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
I got this from a police radar gun site, "With the "same lane" setting that is featured on many of the newer moving radar models, police can even clock vehicles while driving up from behind, creating a growing need for rear facing radar detection for motorists."

The only detector with a rear facing antenna is the V1 because it has the patent for a radar detector with 2 or more antennas inside of it. V1 also has a patent for arrows on its display so you will not see another radar detector with arrows on its display. Radar detectors with only 1 antenna rely on the radar bouncing off of things so that you can get a reading on it. The V1 doesn't need it to bounce because it has a rear facing antenna.

Cops merge on interstates behind you and shoot radar all the time. If you have the Passport 8500, you will have less than 1/2 mile of rear detection with the 8500 just beeping. If you have the V1, you will pick up radar 3 miles away and have an arrow pointing to it. Which one sounds better??

Pretend the cop is a sniper and you have one eye (antenna) and you can't hear which direction the bullet (radar) is coming from, this is the Passport 8500. You will only hear a beep as you look around like an idiot.

Pretend the cop is a sniper and you have two eyes (antennas) and you know which direction the worst threat is with a flashing arrow and how to respond to that threat in the appropriate manner, this is the Valentine One.

Which one sounds better now?

ANSWER: VALENTINE ONE
For crying out loud! What I said was that a 2-3 mile DIFFERENCE in rear detection range vs. another RADAR detector was a useless measurement for comparison purposes in the rear world. Not once did I say that any brand of RADAR detector was better or worse than another!!! Nor did I say rear detection was a useless feature. I know all about same-direction RADAR. And if a cop is 2-3 miles behind you using ANY kind of RADAR, you've got nothing to worry about. And no RADAR detector can show you if the cop behind you is using stationary, moving, or same-direction RADAR because the beams are no different in output frequency (if they were, it sure would be a nice benefit to the speeder). It would be like me telling you amplifier A has .001% distortion and amplifier B has .01% distortion, so therefore amplifier A is better. Sure, you can measure the difference, but your ears wouldn't benefit from it because ears can't discern that small of a difference in distorion. Now the only thing I mentioned in my amplifier example is THD - not crossover construction or output power - these might indeed produce a noticeable difference in sound. The only thing I mentioned in my detector argument was the 2-3 mile difference in rear detection range - not directional arrows or any other feature. I'll repeat myself one more time...the Valentine may be the better detector. But it has nothing to do with the fact that it beats any other in rear detection by 2-3 miles. No more than amplifier A in the above example is better. I apologize if something I said made anyone think I preferred or didn't prefer the Valentine OR the Passport.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Depends...

Out here in colorado, most of police that do speed monitering use unmarked cars... They are actually pretty easy to spot, as they all have those silver spotlights mounted above the driver-side mirror (Plus they are generally chevy impalas, most are white, but have seen some dark/light blue ones). Also a few motorcycle cops that hide in really crazy spots, but do not generally see them except in the summer...

Also, 20mph over the speed limit here is an automatic criminal charge for reckless driving... and it is a Jury trial...

My theory is that if you see them and they see you slowing down, they will generally not pull you over... then again if you have ultra-bling body mods, they may just pull you over for 1-4 over, just because they can...

I've only really flagrently sped on I-25 between the springs and denver (75 mph speed limit, was going over 100mph most of the way)...

If I had a 30min+ commute I would probably get one, but I don't, so I probably will not...
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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I got my V1 back last night!!!
WOW what a difference. I missed ir for the 10 days i was without it!!!!!
Old Feb 20, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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A detector can be worth it, but only if you get a decent one. As for scanners, the price is dependant on features, and some departments use trunked, 800MHz, and/or Digital systems, which require more expensive scanners. In addition, it is a misdemeanor in most states for unauthorized personnel to operate a scanner in a motor vehicle in transit
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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i think its worth it, its saved me numerous times! broke down and got one after getting nailed for 41 in a 35 and not being able to do crap about it in court because it was a small hick town.
Mine was roughly 50 bucks refurbished and the unit was 210 brand new i believe.

As long as this thread is, im sure the original poster already got one, but here is my hardwiring.





here is my writeup if anyone cares.....i wired it to the sunroof, for easy access and easy removal.

http://maxima.gregg-henry.com/radar/radar.html
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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looks good, i'm thinking of hard wiring my 8500 as well. that damn cord can get very annoying when it's right in front of the a/c and radio controls.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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thanks, yes thats the main reason i did wire it like that. it was pretty simple and straight forward. just know that the sunroof control wires are on switch power, meaning they dont get juice unless the controls are pressed, so tap into the power wire for the lights up there.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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nice, my 3rd gen don't have a sunroof, so i'll just tap into my cig lighter instead and snake the wire and what-not to hide it from view, then have it drop down near the rear view mirror.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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a radar is only as good as the person using it. if you don't use it wisely, you might as well not have one, cause you'll be caught anyways.......(Knock On Wood)
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
a radar is only as good as the person using it. if you don't use it wisely, you might as well not have one, cause you'll be caught anyways.......(Knock On Wood)


I got a V1 and 8500 on both cars, and the times that I've been caught was because I was too stupid. Once was cresting over a hill in light traffic (tagged by laser), once I missed the sweet, sweet Ka song (stupid!) and once was just visual (overtake on the right)...

You're right... doesn't matter how good the detector is, if you're stupid you're gonna get nabbed. And I've found that if I don't have one, I find myself not doing things that I would do if I had one...
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Dont have one.
caught two tickets 1.5 years ago when I had a Ford Thunderbird...new driver, so I sped like an idiot every night.
1st ticket = NJ turn pike.
My sister and me saw him on the opposite side of the road, he clocked me while I was trying to speed ahead of the pack.
2nd ticket = belt parkway, between Merrick blvd and jkf exit...I was doing 90 mph and flew by him, didnt see him. so he sped up and pulled me over, 80 mph summonse.

Got a 92 max now, which is way faster than my old T-Bird...want to race? I know where to speed, how many exits and how to outrun the cops on that section of the belt pkwy.

anyother time? 10 or less above the speed limit either following someone, or in a pack.
Long distance? I follow a truck.
Old Apr 16, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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I just wanted to make sure you guys knew about this website where the V1 is tested against the X50 and the V1 wins in POP detection and laser detection. These are professional videos so the testing is 100% accurate.

http://www.jammertests.com/page/page/1904719.htm
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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i loved my radar detector before i got my subs...now the damn thing just falls off the bracket ALL the time from the bass, its such a pain in the ***
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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I have a cobra. Yes cops use laser now, and radar detectors are useless against it, but most cops still use X band or Ka bands.

I think it's worth it, even if you avoid one ticket it pays for itself and then some.

Scanners are cool, I have one, but theyre only good if you have a friend thats a cop or can get your hands on your local codes to unblock the cop channels.

Having both is always nice. If all else fails, get a cb. Truckers can have a further line of vision....if you dont mind listening to an ******* every once in a while.
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Yes a radar is a must unless you have a girl with a nice set of **** . Cops always let me go and I dont have to show them anything like most girls
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sexyass Maxima
Yes a radar is a must unless you have a girl with a nice set of **** . Cops always let me go and I dont have to show them anything like most girls

that doesnt make any sense, do you have huge ***** or someone you know?
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GrazsRootz
that doesnt make any sense, do you have huge ***** or someone you know?
Are you slow most girls get out of tickets becuase they have *****. Most guys I no always get tickets because cops are a$$holes. So guys should always have a radar to give them a heads up. Also not that this is important I do have huge ***** and I love them

Sorry if I said anything to **** off guys in here
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sexyass Maxima
Are you slow most girls get out of tickets becuase they have *****. Most guys I no always get tickets because cops are a$$holes. So guys should always have a radar to give them a heads up. Also not that this is important I do have huge ***** and I love them

Sorry if I said anything to **** off guys in here
I don't think you pissed him off, but your horrible writing skills make it next to impossible to figure out what you're saying. And saying most cops are a$$holes is like saying most girls with big ***** are airheads...wait...

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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I hava rocky mountain radar/laser scrambler its supposed to scramble the signal. If they clock you the gun will read 0 so they cant give you a ticket if they do not know your speed.I take a lot of trips to nyc and atlantic city and it works for me.
How much you pay for it and where'd you get it at? Sounds like a good unit if it really does that. Lemme know. Thanks.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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How much you pay for it and where'd you get it at? Sounds like a good unit if it really does that. Lemme know. Thanks.
hahahhahaahhaahahhahaha thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. That rocky mountain crap does not work. No offense for laughing though..but do your research before you buy that thing.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Mutes
How much you pay for it and where'd you get it at? Sounds like a good unit if it really does that. Lemme know. Thanks.
Go here for videos of Rocky Mountain Radar crap not jamming anything:

http://www.jammertests.com/page/page/1904719.htm
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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2005 SML Radar Detector Test Results!!!!

The 2005 SML radar detector test results are in!!

Radar Detection:



Over the hill radar detection:



Old Jul 11, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Laser detection:



How well a Radar Detector Detector (RDD) can detect you:





Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Fernandes
I don't think you pissed him off, but your horrible writing skills make it next to impossible to figure out what you're saying. And saying most cops are a$$holes is like saying most girls with big ***** are airheads...wait...

Tony
Whatever
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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I think it's universally known that Rocky Mountain Radar Units absolutely don't work at all. I had the pleasure of testing this a couple years ago with a friends who's a cop.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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I think it's universally known that Rocky Mountain Radar Units absolutely don't work at all. I had the pleasure of testing this a couple years ago with a friends who's a cop.
Yep please no one buy one of those POS's. Some kid at my old high school was so sure it worked that he accually bet be $100. So I went on ebay and bought a Kustom Signals K band radar gun and proved him wrong. Every time he drove by I clocked him and it didn't block the radar gun once. So that bet payed for half the gun right there. Also they say that they will pay for a ticket if you get one. Read the fine print. I believe you can't be going faster then 10 and even if they pay for the ticket they have still made money on you and you end up with points on your license.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax

As long as this thread is, im sure the original poster already got one, but here is my hardwiring.

Wrong I still haven't got one..lol
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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My radio is to loud, I never hear the damn thing.



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