Well, previously, I had NO idea what-so-ever I wanted to do with my sound system... then I was told to go check out local places and see what I like...

Which I did, and found that I like the Infinity Reference at Circuit City... Way more SQ over SPL... not trying to blow my ear drums, or make my trunk excessively rattle...

Then today I find out that they break easily... So I'm stuck on which subs to get...

Circuit City has some Type Es that were recommended to me by aspec... they are only 250 RMS, which is fine I guess, but Im thinking, why spend money into something if there is a chance I might replace it later... How long will the Es hold out?

So, I've been looking around for the best quality subwoofer... and I found an Image Dynamics one: http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ12D2V2

It was either CDT, or ID... I have heard good things, and am still open to suggestions on another that would be good...

I could wire it like option 2 to get 4 ohms which is what most amps are at...


This way, I could still go to CC and get a box, amp, install and what not, but use this sub instead of ones they carry...

I could actually get the box cheaper online, which is tempting...

How long will this sub hold out? Will it break?

I figure, if I go ahead and invest in a high quality durable, SQ subwoofer, I could get a mid-ranged amp to power it... and save time, money, and headaches?

And possibly down the road replace my amp and have my sub still pounding strong...

Suggestions?

 

i dont know about that, but i know the ID max are some bad *** fawkin speakers man. so i guess those would be alrite too then. plz dont buy neting at circuit city or best buy, those are mostly entry level crap.

 

if u want sq and longevity you should definitely look into getting some jls probably the w0 if there not too costly. i dont think they are. or why dont you get an adire shiva for 125? its a 12 with great sq. that ive heard of. or maybe the tempest its a 15inch sub for 150! cant beat that man

 

i checked out adire... the brahmas are WAY freaking too much for me...

the koda 10" is cool... decently priced, 300rms... not bad...

the shivas though WOW... check out this video of them with 60 RMS!!! id only have to get like a mono 100 RMS amp... http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/MyShiva.MOV - idk though, wouldn't they be more spl???

if these babies are tight SQ, and can last a long time, ill get them... unless someone gives me a better option...

i can just take it somewhere and run different amps to it and see which one i like... unless someone can suggest one...

 

^ Reason being why I say you dont need much power, its all in the install

As for longevity...it really depends on the person. Common sense goes a long way, I got a Brahma but If im not careful I can toast it. I can toast pretty much any 15" sub I put into this box.

You just have to know when to turn it down, and how to keep the gains adjusted correctly. You could hook up a 2Kw amp to such a sub, so long as you adjust the gains to work with the sub(s) you'll be fine. Dont go all out on the bass boost features, ect...

Remeber there are limits to bass...like your car. You dont need to go all out all the time, chances are the car cant handle it.

 

sorry i meant spl. arent the shivas like 125 dollars man? get them yo youll be happy son. i know it dont look all that but it will get ppls attention.

 

you think i give a care what it looks like... if it performs like no other (from what ive been reading on other forums and what not) then ill be happy...

im pretty much modest when it comes to how loud i play stuff, and how things are tuned so i will try to get a long time out of this sub...

its like 600 rms, and 750 peak, but i dont know what to push through it...

also, does it have sq? a lot of people says it hits notes so low they didnt even know they were there... but i want it to be clean as well...

 

You want SQ, then look at XBL_2 subs. The shivas arnt bad at all, the hold their own. Check the forums for some1 in your area that has the subs you want to get...listen to it & do what wish.

 

so the koda 10?

 

ok a little note on longevity (I didnt read all the posts here so this may have been covered already)

Please BREAK IN YOUR SUB!! I cant stress this enough. So many people get subs and just start bumping them. My old audiobahn aw1251t would have blown instantly if i had not broken it in correctly. It is a 400 rms sub and at one point I was giving it 800 rms just for the hell of it and it handled it fine...

 

where in fl you at man? i have 2 shivas getting 300 watts and their great. btw that video with the sub moving with 60 watts is nothing...

 

lol nothing... but wasnt that cool that you get such a weak amp to power them...

im around pensacola... are they getting 300 each? are they just strictly spl or are the clean as well?

 

His is in a sealed box so it should be clean as well.

 

GET THE SHIVA MAN!!!!!!!!! if i didnt get my kicker cvr at the great price i got it for. i was definetly getting the shiva, no doubt about it. i mean i heard subs that play good that noones really mentions about, but if ppl keep talkin good about the shiva then they must really sound good.[im going by price too[

 

i love them...even though they are in very small boxes. they get a cube each stuffed off a jbl 600.1. once i finally get a new box... im almost afraid to hear how low they will go. they are a little better than w3'v2's imo. if you wanna drive to gville you can hear em.

 

why does everyone have stars where it says florida, or miami?

 

so u cant jack my system or HIDS. at least thats why i did it...

 

werd... i aint never scared to rep my hood, let them nigges come down here

 

well after researching all day at school... i still am undecided... my girl tells me not to buy things anymore unless you know i can try it myself and see if i like it because everyone has their own opinions... she still says do what you want, but she has a good point... especially after all the money i wasted on other crap...

none of my friends have heard of adire, which in a way is cool because ill be the first, but in a way is bad because there isn't really that many sources to hear from you know...

the shiva is cheaper, and if i dont like it i could deal with losing about $150... but $230 for the koda, thats not so good... neither one is good to lose if i dont like them...

is it possible to provide sound clips for a sub? i havent seen any yet? i want to hear the shiva... and the koda... i want tight sq with the koda, but i also like the shivas ability to go low, but i dont want it to rattle everything obsesively...

i really need to hear them...

 

im sure youve heard of solo barricks, and alpine subs and so on, THESE SUBS FROM ADIRE ARE 10000000000X BETTER MAN YOUR NOT GOING TO LOOSE OUT!

 

well then, shiva or koda? the shiva in my head seems like pure SPL where the boom drones out the lyrics... where the koda is SQ... BUT will the koda be boomy as well?

 

i heard a nice sq sub, its not really boomy its like clean piercing waves

 

nice... are they good quatlity as in durability and longevity... i will break them in before i blare them... and i will take care of them when i use them, but how long would you say (ballpark figure) of before they break / crack / whatever...

 

uhm i duno couple of years 15 years. i have subs that are older than me in my room

 

shiva is def not an spl speaker. its an sql driver imo. it can get loud but it also has awesome sq. all depends on box size/type/power/how many shivas. you do realize that with increasing spl things will shake and this has nothing to do with good sq. sound deadening is your new friend.

 

nice... i would still like to hear one of the adire subs... nobody around here has any... so could anyone get me some clips?

personally, im stuck between koda and shiva... brahma is too much...

i just want to buy a box instead of making one... what would anyone recommend? i know sealed for better sq... but size, brand...

 

Rare to fine, but you'd never be disappointed

If you want to buy a box, DO NOT get it from a junk place. Get 1 thats had been made. I have yet to find an air tight box. 99% of the time Prefab=

 

^^^ your only 2 posts behind me. btw a sound clip of a sub is useless to determine SQ. how much power do you have on tap? and what size box do you want to use?

 

oh, well... i really dont know... i want one more towards sq, so i guess a smaller sealed box i think...

with the koda, ill probably get a 200-300 w RMS mono amp... ill get that locally though... some amps sound better than others to me, so ill try them out once i get my sub and box...

 

Most people who want an SQ sealed box will try to get the flatest frequency responce curve they can. That would be a Qtc = .707 - description. The Shiva requires a 54L (two cubic feet) box for a Qtc of .707 - see page 9. If space is a concern, you have a few other options. The Dayton DVC 12 has similar specs as the Shiva but requires less airspace for the same frequency response. You can get a Qtc of .707 in a 1.2 cubic foot enclosure. Also, both the Shiva and Dayton subs are build by the same company - Eminence. Your other option is the SAE1204. It was originally sold by Stryke Audio as a direct competitor to the Shiva. According to John at Stryke, the cost to build the sub was almost double the Shiva so you are getting much more sub for the money. Rumor is that it is also OEMed by Eminence.

Since you thought about the Koda, let me suggest the Soundsplinter RL-i 12". It's built using the TC2+ motor which has been tested to be one of the lowest distortion subs on the market - link. It's also available in dual or single voice coil configurations. I'm running TC Sounds drivers in my home theater subs and they are some of the best sounds speakers I have ever listened to. And yes, I have purchased both the Shiva and the DVC 12.

-Robert

 

Actually I was ahead of you for quite some time, but I havnt been around much as of late so

 

Time out. who said the shiva is an spl sub? The shiva started life as a home sub that people started sticking in cars, not some crazy spl sub. sure, it can get loud, but thats not its purpose. I've seen a couple guys get 10/10 in sub bass in competitions with a shiva, so i think one of them will suit you fine. just make sure you put it in a properly sized box. I may be running one soon in my sq setup...

As for the koda, its was built for people who want amazing sq but not with the crazy output of a brahma. Also, the koda isn't available in a 12" model yet, although i think it is coming out very soon.

 

who DID say it was an spl speaker? not i.