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Old 06-26-2005, 08:21 AM
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Sony XPlod XS-R1641?!?!?!?

My friend bought a set of Sony XPlod speakers, model xs-r1641. He didn't know much info about them but he was getting a sick deal so he couldn't pass it up.


What are these speakers? Is the model number a misprint? I googled it and couldn't come up with any searches.

How much are these speakers worth, and do you guys have more info on them?

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Google gave me nothing either, but it doesnt really matter, because all you need to know is theyre sony xplod, therefore theyre not worth much and theyre still crap no matter how sick the deal was your friend got on them.

Sorry to be so harsh, but I, and most other people here, and most people in the 12 volt industry, hate sony xplod with good reason.

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if its red dont buy it.....
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Old 06-26-2005, 09:41 AM
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It's ok guys, atleast your honest.

We still plan on installing them because Im sure they are better than his stock speakers in his 99 gxe. The rear one already rattle, they sound like ****, got no bass comming out of them what so ever
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Google gave me nothing either, but it doesnt really matter, because all you need to know is theyre sony xplod, therefore theyre not worth much and theyre still crap no matter how sick the deal was your friend got on them.

Sorry to be so harsh, but I, and most other people here, and most people in the 12 volt industry, hate sony xplod with good reason.

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The model number doesnt come up because they were free speakers with select purchases from Sony. Most Sony dealers got these to give away with other purchases.
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Sony is for gamers, not mobile audio.
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i got no problem with the headunits, but the subwoofers definately suck
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Originally Posted by GrazsRootz
i got no problem with the headunits, but the subwoofers definately suck
Their head units, speakers, amps, and subwoofers suck.

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i owned my buddy's sony 10s with my brahma

gotta love the 1 sub pwnage
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
i owned my buddy's sony 10s with my brahma

gotta love the 1 sub pwnage
Thats like beating up a retarded kid.
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Old 06-27-2005, 07:30 AM
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haha well he was talking a lot of mess, how my sub was 'no name' etc etc
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I agree it was probably good pwnage, but still.
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What the suck?

Originally Posted by kpr10is
Their head units, speakers, amps, and subwoofers suck.

Did you say Amps? Whats wrong with the Sony XM-SD22X and Sony XM-SD46X. They are CEA 2006 compliant and have very good reviews. I think some of you just see the name Sony on it and start talkin smack. There amps have done a decent job in the past.

Review: Very impressed
Written by Sean, Springfield, OH on March 20, 2005

I bought this amp to power my 2 alpine 12"s. This amp was certified with the CEA-2006 power rating and it shows. I was planning on getting another one down the line to bridge each sub to 500 watts but I don't think I'll need to...at least for a good while. I can hardly take the bass as it is. Some of you might doubt sony's quality but their amps have always been decent. Now they have the CEA rating so don't overlook them.


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Originally Posted by 7EyesOpen
Did you say Amps? Whats wrong with the Sony XM-SD22X and Sony XM-SD46X. They are CEA 2006 compliant and have very good reviews. I think some of you just see the name Sony on it and start talkin smack. There amps have done a decent job in the past.

Review: Very impressed
Written by Sean, Springfield, OH on March 20, 2005

I bought this amp to power my 2 alpine 12"s. This amp was certified with the CEA-2006 power rating and it shows. I was planning on getting another one down the line to bridge each sub to 500 watts but I don't think I'll need to...at least for a good while. I can hardly take the bass as it is. Some of you might doubt sony's quality but their amps have always been decent. Now they have the CEA rating so don't overlook them.


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Sure, Sony amps are great compared to Pyramid and Jensen ones.

I am sure certain Sony car products are decent, but I doubt you can say any of them are "excellent."

Maybe if some of that stuff was el cheapo, I would put it in my 1975 Dodge truck that I bought for $400.
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Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
Sure, Sony amps are great compared to Pyramid and Jensen ones.

I am sure certain Sony car products are decent, but I doubt you can say any of them are "excellent."

Maybe if some of that stuff was el cheapo, I would put it in my 1975 Dodge truck that I bought for $400.
GOOD reviews! Who the crap said excellent. Unless you'r entering competitions you don't need to spend $500 plus per amp. Why? Because there amps. Power is the key! We've all been through this before on another post. So Let's not go back down that road again. I have an idea though. How about we pay attention to CEA, RMS, and other key factors. Such as peoples own first hand experiences, instead of joining in the beat down of all Sony products like some angry mob.

Quote from my own post:
"Some of you just see the Sony name on it and start talkin smack". Yep!
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Originally Posted by 7EyesOpen
Unless you'r entering competitions you don't need to spend $500 plus per amp. Why? Because there amps. Power is the key!
ah but not all amps are created equal now are they? many people don't enter competitions, but buy some nice amps.
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damn dude, out of sheer curiosity, i typed XM-SD22X into crutchfield to see the specs and what this hype was about. That was the ONLY review on there. For all you know he could work for Sony. I can tell you for a fact, i install Sony Xplod every day thanks to cheap people who wont spend more money at Circuit City, and the amps, speakers, and subs we sell are crap. Not to mention, your "power is the key" statement is pure ignorance. How about THD and Signal to Noise, or god forbid the R&D and quality of the product itself, which Sony could use improvement. Lastly, its about time Sony got CEA compliant, because I guarantee last year they wouldve rated that 800 watt amp at like 1200 watts. If you are running the amps you said above then thats fine, but I wouldnt go around talking to car audio enthusiasts saying theyre more than they are.

Sorry if it sounds like im being a ****, but you backing up Sony got me all riled up.

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Originally Posted by kpr10is
damn dude, out of sheer curiosity, i typed XM-SD22X into crutchfield to see the specs and what this hype was about. That was the ONLY review on there. For all you know he could work for Sony. I can tell you for a fact, i install Sony Xplod every day thanks to cheap people who wont spend more money at Circuit City, and the amps, speakers, and subs we sell are crap. Not to mention, your "power is the key" statement is pure ignorance. How about THD and Signal to Noise, or god forbid the R&D and quality of the product itself, which Sony could use improvement. Lastly, its about time Sony got CEA compliant, because I guarantee last year they wouldve rated that 800 watt amp at like 1200 watts. If you are running the amps you said above then thats fine, but I wouldnt go around talking to car audio enthusiasts saying theyre more than they are.

Sorry if it sounds like im being a ****, but you backing up Sony got me all riled up.

-kevin
In other words he said, "The more money you spend, the better the product." and "You get what you pay for".

What about dollar value?

Sorry if it sounds like im being a ****, but you backing up Sony got me all riled up.

Actually I'm a Alpine fan, but yes I do favor Sony televisions and other home audio. And yes, I do feel they are capable of good products. I just find it rediculous that everyones quick to flame any Sony car audio product as soon as it hits the shelf. Whether they own it or not.

I'd be willing to bet more than 90% of the idiots who think they know car audio couldn't tell the difference between a Sony amp and a Fosgate amp unless they opened the trunk. Oooohhh! There xplod! Hey dude, I knew I heard .0002% THD from that trunk. Fosgate ROCKS!!

Sorry, if I seem like a **** or better yet ignorant. HA!
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I never said anything about Sony TVs. I am not an expert in home audio by a long shot, and I wouldnt question their TVs because I dont know any better. But a company making good TVs doesnt mean theyll make good car audio.
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Originally Posted by 7EyesOpen
In other words he said, "The more money you spend, the better the product." and "You get what you pay for".

What about dollar value?



VERY TRUE i got my sonyXM460GTX for $25, but for $25 i got to say it was well worth it, no way i would of paid much more than $25 for it though

(it overheats a lot)

i got it hooked up to my alpine type r 12 it seems to do good (for what i paid for it)

the only thing i like about sony is......................................PS2-PSP


just my 2 cents (or should i say $25?)
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After reading 7Eyes post a couple times I assume he was referring to me talking about Circuit City customers. I NEVER said anything about getting what you pay for. The pure fact of the matter is that Sony is one of the cheap brands we sell as compared to Kicker, Polk, Infinity, etc, not only in pricepoint but in quality of the product. This was my comparison. Is stuff like Arc Audio generally worth the money? Yes if youve got the money to spend. Would I ever spend $1000 on a JL amp from places like Sound Advice? Hell no. Not worth it.

As for flaming a Sony car audio product without owning it? Yes, because people who have been around the block will already know the general quality of the product. Its not like Sony will make Pyle-quality amps one year and Arc-quality amps the next.

From personal experience at Circuit City, yes a lot of the people won't know the difference when they look at a Sony amp versus a Fosgate amp. But that doesnt change the quality of the product.
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I've been through 3 Sony headunits in 3 years, and not because I wanted to.
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^ya, on the other hand, I've been thru 0 playstations (still have mine up and running from '95 and it works good still.
I'll wait for ps3 or the 360
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I have 220W Sony 2 ways similar to that in the back of my car and they sound pretty good. I am trying to come up with a mount so I can get some 6"x9" speakers for my rear deck.
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6.5 > 6x9. Sound waves are meant to be reproduced by round speakers, not oval ones. Plus you should need more rear fill than a 6.5" speaker. And if your doing it for bass...just get a sub.

My .02.
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think kevin meant you shouldn't need more rear fill than a 6.5" speaker
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
think kevin meant you shouldn't need more rear fill than a 6.5" speaker
Yup Thanks
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^ya, on the other hand, I've been thru 0 playstations (still have mine up and running from '95 and it works good still.
It seems that everything Sony makes that isn't car audio is fine. We have a surround sound system in our family room with Sony speakers that work fine. My buddy had the same model Sony Xplod headunit that I originally had and his had the exact same problem as mine.
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well maybe their subs arent all bad...my friend had a xplod 12 in the back with a scosche amp, gain all the way up, and he must've been clipping the **** out that sub...but thru it all it held its own and got surprisingly loud.
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I went through a xplod headunit, amp and sub before i knew any better. they all ended up breaking. the amp chewed up fuses like crazy. they display on the headunit stopped working after a few months. they sub just never worked out of the box. it wasnt the install either, because i replaced everything with better quality stuff and never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Thats like beating up a retarded kid.

rofl perfect analogy for brahma vs sony
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Thank you, I thought so myself.
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bah, brahma vs sony is like a NHRA topfuel dragster versus a stock mini cooper
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