d00df00d

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The guy just dropped that beast on me and my puny Kenwood KAC-819 amp (150w RMS @ 4 ohms). I built a sealed box for it to JL's specs, but needless to say I need more juice.

Here's what I've been considering -- the Kenwood KAC-9102D:

http://www.millionbuy.com/kenkac9102d.html

I can get it refurbed (or new from eBay) for around $155 shipped.

I know it's going to be a damn sight better than what I have, so no need to reiterate that. But does anyone have any indepth experience with it, or other ideas on what I should get?

Just to give you an idea, my 4-channel is a 50w RMS x 4 Clarion amp: it's plenty loud for my purposes, and volume-wise the sub is easily able to keep up even with that puny amp. So the ONLY reason for getting a new amp would be sound quality.

Also, I have separate 8-gauge power wires feeding my main 4-channel amp and my sub amp, and no capacitor. I've never had the lights dim on me at idle with max volume on my current system, so I'm assuming there's nothing terribly wrong with my alternator or battery. Will I still need thicker wiring or a cap?

EDIT: More amp ideas a few posts down...

kpr10is

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Funny, I just did that 9102d on two audiobahn 12s at Circuit two days ago. It clipped, cut out, and he brought it back blaming us, even though he brought us all his equipment and all we did was install/tune it.

Whats your budget for an amp?

Depends on what sub amp you go with, whether you need to upgrade from 8 gauge. Not to mention its kind of redundant running two separate 8 gauge power kits. Upgrade if youve got the money.

d00df00d

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My budget is as cheap as I can possibly be without getting something that sucks. If it turns out I absolutely can't get what I need for this price, I'll wait longer and buy something later.

This Kenwood amp just seems like a great deal... great power, good brand name, class D, and very well priced. Am I wrong?

mendon99

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why would someone give a sub away? that never happens.

LeX

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can get good deals on orion amps at sounddomain 50% off, i am selling some DEI amps do 700 or so @2ohm, check ebay for refurb planet audio or ikesound for refurb amps

2 Da Max

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aaah kenwood? and jl? = no no

i would save up and get something good for that sub, so you could enjoy that dub7

d00df00d

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He was gonna get rid of it and he said he would rather give it to someone local whom he sees frequently so that he could see it have a second life than sell it and just get the money.

He also has a JL Audio 450/4 and a 1000/1, but he said he definitely wants to sell those. I'd take them but I'm nowhere near being in a position to buy them and all the extra support apparatus that I would need and use them properly (sturdier box, big power wiring, caps, new wiring for the main speakers, lots of sound deadening and rattle-fixing, etc.). Plus it'd be WAY overkill for my purposes.

Got reviews on those Orion or DEI amps? I've never heard of them besides coming across them occasionally while browsing.

Well, how much would you recommend saving up, and what would you recommend getting?

d00df00d

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Seems the Ikesound suggestion was a good one. Here's what I picked out:

HiFonics BX1000D
Pioneer GM-7100M
Directed Audio 1100d (refurb)
Directed Audio 750d (refurb)

Opinions?

TAPOUT

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I have a brand new JL Audio 500/1 mono amp still in the box that I'd sell for $370 shipped. This is the right amp to run your sub. If you are interested, PM me. You don't want some crappy amp running a sub like that. I am going to post a "for sale" thread in a minute.

d00df00d

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Thanks, but that's pretty far out of my price range at the moment... If that's the only kind of thing that'd be worth it then I'm going to have to wait a while, but if there is a decent solution in the interim I'd like to take it.

TAPOUT

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I would tell you that a $600 sub deserves something more than a $150 amp. Save your pennies, or put it on a credit card. I accept Paypal.

d00df00d

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I appreciate that you're trying to sell your stuff, but I already said I can't afford it.

Anyone else care to chime in with some real opinions on the amps I listed?

mendon99

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d00d, someone is selling a hifonics amp just like that one in the audio FS forums right now i believe...

also, -Red- is selling a Kicker zr1000 on ebay right now, just missed the chance to get it for 150 even.

good luck.

slickrick

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no hifonics...the DEI are not bad...I run the 750D on my sub and it works well. how much power do you want to send it?

d00df00d

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My current amp gives it around 200w continuous and honestly I don't need it to get any louder at all. My ONLY concern is sound quality.

So, I really don't know how much power I need. All I know is that JL's site says I should give the sub a bare minimum of 250 watts continuous, and optimum is around 500.

slickrick

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is this going in a sealed or ported box?

kpr10is

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Heres some classic IkeSound for ya.
http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=136428

PLEASE use a decent amp to push that sub and not some piece of ****.

LeX

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i will sell you a DEI 750D for $80+ship that will push 700 or so @2ohm and if your sub is SVC 3 you'll get like 500-550, dunno what VC config u got

nismos14

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Buy Lex's amp.

LeX

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hell buy 2 if you want ;D

slickrick

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word up...solid amp for the price!

d00df00d

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Anyone wanna tell me a DEI 1100d would sound better at relatively low volumes than a DEI 750d? Cuz if not, the choice may have been made...

slickrick

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no sound difference.

pikers

If by "give away" he means "didn't lock his car" then yes, it happens.

Just kidding.

2 Da Max

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Lex did u say 80 dollars? i might jump on it

slickrick

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don't cut in line Avi or you will be sent back to the short bus...

nismos14

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Sounds like lex has more than one, its ok, both can have one arty:

KyMan

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If that doesn't work out for you, you might look into Planet Audio (I think someone mentioned them above). I got mine from an ebay seller for like $130 shipped and it is 600x1@2ohms-and is 1 ohm stable. Pretty good power for the money and sounds decent too.


It all just depends where your priorities are. I only care $300 worth about how my car stereo sounds-but I care >$1000 what my home audio sounds like. (and then there's damn school which apparently I care >$10k worth)

d00df00d

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And at least one of us probably will.

LeX, YGPM....

NisAznMonk

I've had pretty good experiences with the Power Acoustik Gothic line of amps. When I owned a Power Acoustik Gothic OV2-1200, I clampped it at 584watts at 2ohm. Definately not a bad buy for about $120 on the internet.

rteenie22

i can never imagin a dub7 on anything but a 500/1 or 1000/1 amp. altho i do have my w3v2 on an infinity amp. hits hard. wish i knew someone who gave away spl monsters

1996blackmax

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Could you explain why?

nismos14

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Ya I agree I wouldn't want to use a better amp than a alright J/L on an alright sub

LeX

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if u want it man 80+shipping i got a guy says he'll pay friday but if you got the money before that it's yours... also got a 500.2 does 200x2 @2ohms or 400x1@4ohms bridged