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Old 10-10-2006, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
NO !!!!

Just connect it to the wire that I told you33 posts ago. YOU DO NOT NEED ANY MORE RELAYS.
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Ignition and Starter are not the same in any way shape or form. The starter ..starts the car, the ignition powers everything up making it able to start the car (ie: fuel pump).

Right now your feeding 12V power to your key cylinder everytime you attempt a start. If it is indeed on the key side, you should be ok, but I suggest removing it promptly and applying it to the appropriate wire...One of the accessories...Specifically.. red/yel - red and your Orange wire should be on..blue - wht/blu.
So all that needs to be done is hook pink/white to red/yel? and orange to blue?

...seems to easy
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Originally Posted by sean05

Why do you have only one Red-Power wire connected? You do realize that there are two? How come your Green and Purple both say "ign side" are you confused?Orange is Correct/Red (you need two) is correct/Pink is correct. Now get your starter wires right and connect the Pink/White wire (Again)...red/yel - red
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sean05
So all that needs to be done is hook pink/white to red/yel? and orange to blue?

...seems to easy

Honestly dude, I have no clue what the hell you are reading, where did I say connect it to Blue????
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Originally Posted by sean05
ohh boy.. so there is no need for a relay? ive been told two different things. So you can do it eatiehr way?

Ok, lemme see...Ive been doing this for 18 years. Have done AT LEAST 300+ Maximas alone in the past couple years...Believe what you want sir.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Honestly dude, I have no clue what the hell you are reading, where did I say connect it to Blue????
you wrote blue in this post:

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Ignition and Starter are not the same in any way shape or form. The starter ..starts the car, the ignition powers everything up making it able to start the car (ie: fuel pump).

Right now your feeding 12V power to your key cylinder everytime you attempt a start. If it is indeed on the key side, you should be ok, but I suggest removing it promptly and applying it to the appropriate wire...One of the accessories...Specifically.. red/yel - red and your Orange wire should be on..blue - wht/blu.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Ok, lemme see...Ive been doing this for 18 years. Have done AT LEAST 300+ Maximas alone in the past couple years...Believe what you want sir.
i believe you, but in another post it talks about a relay being on those wires. If you say i dont need one, then it makes it easier on me.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sean05
you wrote blue in this post:

Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Ignition and Starter are not the same in any way shape or form. The starter ..starts the car, the ignition powers everything up making it able to start the car (ie: fuel pump).

Right now your feeding 12V power to your key cylinder everytime you attempt a start. If it is indeed on the key side, you should be ok, but I suggest removing it promptly and applying it to the appropriate wire...One of the accessories...Specifically.. red/yel -red and your Orange wire should be on..blue - wht/blu.
And what about that confused you? Let me make it even bigger and seperate for you...

but I suggest removing it promptly and applying it to the appropriate wire...One of the accessories...Specifically.. red/yel -red

and your Orange wire should be on..blue - wht/blu.

Are we seeing a bit more clear now?
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lol @ this thread. drive to gville tomorrow...err get it towed there.
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I need a Valium
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I need a Valium
u and me both. Well the two wires got switched over. Still nothing. Car wont fire. Just cranks. What could have been fried while it was wired wrong?
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
lol @ this thread. drive to gville tomorrow...err get it towed there.
hell ill pay you to fix this thing. The car wont even fire. The whole garage smells like gas.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:13 PM
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Disconnect the 791's wiring from the ignition harness completely and put it back to stock. Then start your car. Then have someone else finish the ignition harness for you, which ill do if you wanna pay me to come down there, or come up here.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Disconnect the 791's wiring from the ignition harness completely and put it back to stock. Then start your car. Then have someone else finish the ignition harness for you, which ill do if you wanna pay me to come down there, or come up here.

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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Disconnect the 791's wiring from the ignition harness completely and put it back to stock. Then start your car.
Exactly. Like I said in post #18. Please sean05, wire the ignition harness back to stock to see if you did any damage at all. Disconnect all wiring from alarm going to ignition harness. Check all fuses and start car. If it starts with key, LEAVE IT ALONE AND SEEK A PROFESSIONAL INSTALLER.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
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I highly doubt the wiring is wrong. Im not getting spark to any of the ignition coils. i read through the schematic and im guessing the condensor is toasted. becuase the condensor runs off the ignition power which was hooked to the wrong wire, which wasnt done by me. I did hook the pink/white to the second starter but even with that wire on wrong it started all morning today like a champ. Thanks everyone for there help. i do appricate it greatly.


kpr10is if you do want to come down PM me a price and we can talk.

Thanks everyone
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sean05
I highly doubt the wiring is wrong. Im not getting spark to any of the ignition coils. i read through the schematic and im guessing the condensor is toasted. becuase the condensor runs off the ignition power which was hooked to the wrong wire, which wasnt done by me. I did hook the pink/white to the second starter but even with that wire on wrong it started all morning today like a champ. Thanks everyone for there help. i do appricate it greatly.


kpr10is if you do want to come down PM me a price and we can talk.

Thanks everyone
Lets break it down then...the car worked fine prior to this ginormous mess, now it doesnt. And you think everything was done correctly? Im sorry, but Im lost in your logic here. Whether you or your friend...something was done terribly wrong.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MIXXMAX
Exactly. Like I said in post #18. Please sean05, wire the ignition harness back to stock to see if you did any damage at all. Disconnect all wiring from alarm going to ignition harness. Check all fuses and start car. If it starts with key, LEAVE IT ALONE AND SEEK A PROFESSIONAL INSTALLER.
i know ive done damage to something. Becuase it worked fine before i did the pink/white wire. Like Pearl said, the orange and red were hooked wrong. I did pay a professional installer who was MECP tech and hes the one who wired the red and orange backwards.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Lets break it down then...the car worked fine prior to this ginormous mess, now it doesnt. And you think everything was done correctly? Im sorry, but Im lost in your logic here. Whether you or your friend...something was done terribly wrong.
Your absolutely correct. My friend who is professionally certified, and or me messed something up wrong. I think it was both him and me. Be both hooked a wire up wrong. I read through the schematic and the first then it tells you to check is the "condensor." So im going to get a multimeter and a new condensor tomarrow morning. Thanks agian everyone. Sorry to be such a pain in the ***.
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Honestly speaking...MECP doesnt mean crap. A piece of paper that says you passed a few exam questions hardly gives you any in-field experience or qualifies you for much. Case in point...what your friend did to your car.
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Case in point...Best Buy installers who are required to be MECP.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:43 PM
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Buahahahahaha, so Very true. I had some fun with them the other day when I went for my Tivo. I love fuggin with the noobs.
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lol as little as it means...one part of me wishes CC would pay for us to take it, just to have the piece of paper and not have had to pay for it.
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i do applogize guys for the trouble, but look on the bright side... it raised ur post count!!

But i do agree with you guys about the MECP, the guys in out bay couldnt tell a hole in there a$$ from a hole in the ground. You should hear some of the claims they have to write for messing stuff up.
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Originally Posted by sean05
i do applogize guys for the trouble, but look on the bright side... it raised ur post count!!

But i do agree with you guys about the MECP, the guys in out bay couldnt tell a hole in there a$$ from a hole in the ground. You should hear some of the claims they have to write for messing stuff up.
I dont think I need that too much....
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damn.. now im sitting here trying to analyze what went wrong! Was the wiring returned back to stock yet? Im still trying to figure out how miswiring anything in that ignition harness could fry anything. If you think about it, worst case scenario, you kick a hot line into one of the ignition or starter wires and one if them stays on. Fry the relay module for the remote start maybe but nothing on the car. At least not within the wiring for the ignition harness. Im still familiarizing myself with the Nissans but the ignition wiring is pretty common. Am i right?
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