prior to purchasing them i was thinking of making kick panels out of mdf and fiber glass (body filler to smooth out the edges) now after reading it's owners manual thinga ma popper.. it says to mount the tweets in clear sight of the ear for best sound quality.. i want best sq and also great sound imaging.. i know that kicks would do great for sound imaging but what hsould i do? i know if i make kicks they'll be huge because i got teh focal utopia 165w3 so i was planning on putting all three components in each corner and nothing in the doors.. for the rears i'm just gonna stuff everything int he doors, and build a custom enclosure.. gonna build the rear door panels out. any suggestions? or should ijust play it by ear.. i'm tryign to just do this in one install rather than experimenting.. i've done that way too many times..

 

MING!!!!! You disapoint me. Why can't anyone get some Dyn's? Personally I would put the tweet and midrange in a kick panel, and the woofer in the door. If you play around with a baffle, you can aim the woofer some to image it, but the most important driver to image is the mid. I would put the tweeter there as well.....

 

i'm sorry.. hahahaha. but they talked fancy to me and convinced me to get the focal instead of the dynaudio.. i wanted the 360 but they said utopia was better. i'll just hafta try it out and see what happens.. thanx for the input once again.

 

Id go with kicks. Tweeters in door = too bright, not natural sounding. I agree with WhiteMax, but hey, sorry, i got Utopias too.

 

kicks it is then... thanx to the both of you for your very great inputs.. i can't wait til i get these suckers to work.. any of you running eq's? i'm planning on getting the eqt 30 band mono eq from audiocontrol does 230 a side sound right?? i wanna see if i can get it down to 200 per side since i dont' have all that muhc money lef.t

 

Well, if you had done with the Dyns, you would have had no problems putting the tweets in the dor, but oh well. As far as an EQ goes, I don't have one. I ( This of course is my opinion) wouldn't get the EQTs.And ya, $230 sounds right. I think it's overkill for a higher end speaker like the Utopias. I would save some cash and just get an EQL or EQX. I think 15 bands is plenty if you want EQ. I might get one and mount it behind the rear seat armrest. Good luck and take pics!!!!!!!!!!1

 

well. i'm debating to get either the phoenix gold digital 30 band eq, or the eqt.. i'm sure the PG one will cost a bit more. i t might be 2 channel. and it does match my powercore, and zx600. but hrm.. its not out yet i dont' think.. and i also dont' have a lap top.. so it'll suck.. i dont' really have a problem putting the tweets in the door. it would make my life alot easier if i wanted to go that route.. but it's just, (i wanna be special) type of deal. oH.. do any of you have rule books for competitions?? that's what i'm basically building my car up for.. and if i ever get great, i would definately want to at teh very least enter the iasca comps.. i know i do not qualify just yet.. but i'll try my best to get there...

 

THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH THE 360!!!!! :laugh
Matt should have a rulebook. I know Parts Express has them too.

 

hAHHAHA.. i am special.. i dont' know anyone with the utopia threee way systems.. hahah.. i only paied 900 for em'.. so it's not too much.. dynaudio 360s are 700..

i knwo i'm going to lose even more sleep over this once my amp comes in.. it's long and shiny... i think i'll sleep with it laying next to my bed the day i bring it home... hrmff.. i really want to hear your tube drivers.. i've heard great things about tube drivers.. just don't liek the fact that it needs to be warmed up.. just doesn't seem right..

 

I'll be very honest, you don't even really hear a warm up time. I've not noticed it. Come on down to FL. and I'll let you hear them. The new Tube Driver Blue is the one I really want. The Tubes glow BLUE, and they have said they sound as good as the Milbert amps, with hella more power......

 

florida sounds like a long drive.. maybe, if everything is almost done.. (this kinda thing is never finished) and there is another well planned maxus, then maybe i'll drive that distance, and i hope u'll be there too.. hopefully maxus will be held in california when that time comes..

 

Ok Mingo. This is what i recommend: woofers in the doors that is completely sound deadened and sealed with acoustic mats. Speaker should be mounted on a thick rigid mdf baffle. Get some kicks built for the mid and the tweeter. You won't regret it, trust me. Also, you will want to modify your factory speaker grilles as they block quite a bit of sound. I made mine with speaker grille cloth and plywood.

Good luck and don't listen to their opinions, you have one of the best car speakers on God's green earth.

Anton

 

hahah thanx.. but just to let u in on a lil secret.. HAHAHa i'm cheap.. sound deadening is not on the top of my list because of my financial situation. but i do have 13yards of heavy duty fiberglass laying around and a few gallons of resin. so i wanted to use that with MDF and build everythign into the kicks.. i dont' want to deal with ratlles in the doors.. no matter how well i build the doors it wont be completely sealed because of the window.. however to contradict what i just said.. this is what i propose to do for the rears.. i plan to place both the tweets and the midbass in the doors. but instead of mounting it in the actual door i'm going to rework the bottom half of the door panel and build a fiberglass enclosure for em'. so the whole door panel will be built out, adn the speakers will be mounted on the door panel instead of the door. this is what i also plan to do to the fronts if i feel i don't have enough midbass. i was thinking if it's not enough (is there ever enouhg?) i'll just add 10" midbass in the front doors and rebuild the door panels. i'm thinking of either laying one layer of carbon fiber over the door panel for the "carbon look" or using sued. and then fix it all up.. still not sure.. i hate school.. no time. and no more income.

 

Ming, with your system, You have to think about sound treatment. You won't be getting everything you could from the system if you dont. It'll rattle like a bastard. At least consider using carpet padding bewteen the door and the panel to help some. Cheapskate

 

He's right. I live by this rule: 20% equipment, 80% install.
So go and buy that hi-temp mastic

 

well i want to get somethign that is high quality, i do plan to apply some sound deadening material to the roof too. i've heard bad things about using cheap sound deadening material, how it peels form the weather inconsistancies. how they peel off the inside of the doors and get jammed into the window regulators and such. so i want to be able to get the best materials for the right places, i do also believe its' 20%eqt. 80%work. actually i think of it more as 5-95.. but then that's just me.

 

Ya, that stuffs like Crack. Once you start, you can't stop.....LOL

 

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I bought some stuff called RAAMmat. It was pretty cheap, and it sticks liek you wouldn't believe. Once it's on, you can't pull it back off.